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Kaliwa Dam

Hi Koakaulana, the article Kaliwa Dam does not follow the guidelines for a disambiguation page (see short version here). Have you considered putting it in prose form and making it an article, or adding the information to Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed and making Kaliwa Dam a redirect? Leschnei (talk) 15:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm entirely confused, actually. The subject is inherently confusing, and the disambigaution rules are confusing to me as well, I'm afraid. Do you have detailed suggestions for steps I should take? Thanks! - Koakaulana (talk) 03:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your confusion. Try to keep in mind that the sole purpose of disambiguation pages is to get readers to the article that they want as quickly as possible, like an index in a book. They should only list articles that might be confused with the name of the DAB page (Kaliwa Dam, in this case). To make finding the right article as quick and easy as possible, entries should be short and to the point, and contain only one link to an existing Wikipedia article. No external links (references) are needed because there should not be any information added that is not in the linked Wikipedia article.

I don't know anything about the history of dams in the Kaliwa River watershed, but I would think that the information on Kaliwa Dam would be better placed on Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed, if it's not already there. Kaliwa Dam could then be a redirect to Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed. I guess that one important question is - are there any other articles that readers might go to looking for information on dams named Kaliwa?

As to guidelines for disambiguation pages, WP:disambiguation explains the basics and WP:MOSDAB discusses the formatting. Leschnei (talk) 13:51, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wait. Just to clarify. All these projects have been called "Kaliwa Dam" in their time, and all of these have been called "Laiban Dam" alternatively. They're all in the same place; but their design and history of proposal have been different. Certainly, the disambiguation page would have to mention at least (1) the 1970s-1980s Marcos era Dam, partly built; (2) the 2010s Aquino Jr Era Dam, funded and approved by not constructed; and (3) the present Duterte Era Dam project, which no-one has made an article for yet.- Koakaulana (talk) 01:06, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't suppose I object to Kaliwa Dam being a redirect to Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed without changes. Would you mind looking, to see if it's appropriate? Then either one of us could just make Kaliwa Dam a redirect page. :D - Koakaulana (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked over the article, and done a search for other articles that talk about dams in that area and I would still suggest redirecting both Kaliwa Dam and Laiban Dam to Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed for 2 main reasons. First, the disambiguation page basically summarizes Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed. Second, only two of the entries on Kaliwa Dam link to an article that discusses a dam or dam proposal. Since the whole point of a disambiguation page is to lead readers to existing information, Proposed Dams in the Kaliwa River watershed seems to be the better choice. If future articles are written about the other proposals, or information about those proposals is covered in other articles (maybe you can add some?), then it would make sense to change Kaliwa Dam back to a disambiguation page.

Also, when you reply to another editor, please start your message with a 'ping' template, so that the other editor is alerted that there is a message for them. To reply to me just start with {{ping|Leschnei}} followed by your reply. This template isn't needed if you're leaving your message on the other editor's talk page. Leschnei (talk) 11:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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