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This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 8 March 2024. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 2024, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/March 2024. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before the article appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 19:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Great news! I'll take a look at the blurb. Thanks to the nominator! :) —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's now 1,191 characters. It has to be trimmed to 1,025. You'll do it? Wehwalt (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely! —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
story · music · places - Thank you today for the article, about a 19th-century American abolitionist and activist - great choice for IWD! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Glad you approved! She was a fascinating person. I got a chance to visit her and her husband's graves late last year and was glad of it. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good to know! - Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vacation pics uploaded (back home), at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a listen! —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a listen! —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good to know! - Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Glad you approved! She was a fascinating person. I got a chance to visit her and her husband's graves late last year and was glad of it. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely! —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you believe the lede needs to have the part about Hendricks' quote? I didn't think it was too necessary to keep, but I have no issue leaving it be ParXivalRPT (talk) 05:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think it improves the article, yes. It's a vivid quote and one that effectively conveys her role in the black community in Chicago during her widowhood. Hopefully it sticks in the minds of readers. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's now 1,191 characters. It has to be trimmed to 1,025. You'll do it? Wehwalt (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Fergie Chambers
Hello - I created a draft for Fergie Chambers yesterday before I realized that you had a similar idea. I see that you have some sources in your sandbox but if you'd like to use the draft article instead, it's at Draft:Fergie Chambers. I will probably do some expanding later today but I agree with you that there's enough there to meet WP:GNG, especially with the new Rolling Stone article. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 11:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, great - I'll take a look over today in draftspace or mainspace, if you've published by then. Thanks! —Ganesha811 (talk) 11:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Also - what's your read of the consensus in the RSN discussion on The Free Post I started? I would say it's probably no consensus, but I could also see a weak consensus against reliability. —Ganesha811 (talk) 11:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think no consensus makes the most sense - There was some good back-and-forth and it seems split around 50/50 if we're looking at numbers. Of course, it wasn't a formal RfC so I don't think it's something to worry about it at this point anyway. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 14:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ThadeusOfNazereth, I added some material to the draft. Anything else you want to include, or should we publish it? —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- I will take a deeper look tomorrow but it looks good enough for mainspace at first glance. Sorry I didn't add more, it's been tough to find time to edit during the work day recently! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 00:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ThadeusOfNazereth, I added some material to the draft. Anything else you want to include, or should we publish it? —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think no consensus makes the most sense - There was some good back-and-forth and it seems split around 50/50 if we're looking at numbers. Of course, it wasn't a formal RfC so I don't think it's something to worry about it at this point anyway. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 14:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
DYK credit for Townsends
Hi, I’m not sure if hat happened. Could you send me a DYK credit for Townsends? Thank you, Thriley (talk) 00:57, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done! —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Thriley (talk) 02:21, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Good article?
Hi, Ganesha. Can you take a look at the Interstate 85 in North Carolina article to see if it meets GA criteria? I nominated it, and I'm not entirely sure. I'm of course a newbie at GA noms and would like some advice. Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 01:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- I also didn't create the article, but I heavily renovated the route description. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 01:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! First off, welcome to GA! While I generally don't take requests, I hope someone picks up the article and reviews it soon. A note: due to the backlog, it could take a couple months before that happens, so be patient! The article looks like it's in pretty good shape. Per WP:ORMEDIA, maps are acceptable as sources, but a lot of the route description you added doesn't cite any source at all. It would be good to add inline citations for the sources you used to describe the route. Road descriptions from maps have been a point of controversy in the past, so you might ask for guidance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. Happy editing! —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! That was helpful. Okay then, I'll take your advice. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! First off, welcome to GA! While I generally don't take requests, I hope someone picks up the article and reviews it soon. A note: due to the backlog, it could take a couple months before that happens, so be patient! The article looks like it's in pretty good shape. Per WP:ORMEDIA, maps are acceptable as sources, but a lot of the route description you added doesn't cite any source at all. It would be good to add inline citations for the sources you used to describe the route. Road descriptions from maps have been a point of controversy in the past, so you might ask for guidance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. Happy editing! —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
GA Drive point
Hi there, sorry to bother you but I was wondering if I could get 1 point for my last GA review that's still On Hold? I was hoping to be able to get to 7 points. The review has been on hold for more than 7 days because the nominator asked for more time to address feedback. WP:Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/March 2024#Mokadoshi. Either way, thanks for all you've done to coordinate this drive. Mokadoshi (talk) 04:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- I can't award a point for a review that's not complete yet, but I don't think you need to worry - any reviews started before April 1st will count towards the drive. The reviews only have to begin in March, they don't have to finish in March. As long as it's closed in the next week or two, a point will be awarded at that time. Thanks for your contributions! —Ganesha811 (talk) 05:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Apologies...
Sorry for the incorrect undo just now, I got confused because the DYK update bot said it had promoted queue 7, which made me assume it had also wiped it, and I further assumed you'd then promoted a fresh set over the top of that (forgotting it is the 31st today not the 30th). In fact, it turns out the DYK bot didn't get around to wiping queue 7, so your set is now good to go for tomorrow. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 14:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good, no worries! —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Anna Filosofova
The article Anna Filosofova you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Anna Filosofova and Talk:Anna Filosofova/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rusalkii -- Rusalkii (talk) 05:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Anna Filosofova
The article Anna Filosofova you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Anna Filosofova for comments about the article, and Talk:Anna Filosofova/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rusalkii -- Rusalkii (talk) 07:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Where is Kate? for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 11:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
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- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Question from Bbumba Eliya (10:48, 7 April 2024)
Thanks a lot, wanted to know the criteria followed to edit a content posted .Thanks again --Bbumba Eliya (talk) 10:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can visit WP:Learn to edit to get started! —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Edits to Ellen Bernstein
I got notified about changes to the Ellen Bernstein page - not sure if you directly notified me or if you made a significant enough change that I automatically got notified.
I appreciate that you tightened up the text and removed some verbiage that didn't absolutely need to be there. But by removing the sentence "She notes 'If we focus on abstract theological and allegorical readings, we miss the deeply embodied and enlanded dimensions of the text that are so needed today... We miss the possibility of finding God in nature.'", I think this removes an essential essence of her work - this quote is from her words from an interview about her latest book. Do you object to me changing it back? Nnev66 (talk) 19:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind, though I would recommend paraphrasing it a bit more - perhaps split it up into two sentences. The second part of the quote is stronger, while the first part could be rephrased in our own words. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
GAN Backlog Drive barnstar
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Question from Baqeer shuwa14 on User:Baqeer shuwa14 (10:21, 14 April 2024)
I want to create my own wikipedia --Baqeer shuwa14 (talk) 10:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Any Wikipedian in good standing with a little experience can publish articles, but it is difficult to do so! I recommend starting out by making fixes to pages which already exist. What topics are you interested in editing about? —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Question from Sage or something (16:24, 22 April 2024)
What is the best way to approach sensitive topics when editing an article (like how to talk about it without offending others)? --Sage or something (talk) 16:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a particular topic you're concerned about? Wikipedia is not censored, but we're also not here to make a point by shocking or offending others (see WP:GRATUITOUS). —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woke Mind Virus
I would like to contest your decision to hold with the minority and merge the Woke Mind Virus page. I believe consensus was emerging for a Keep, and that at the very least more time should have been given for that one. I do not know what the process is to appeal such a move, but I think your merge move was premature if not incorrect. Iljhgtn (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! I appreciated your reasoned arguments in favor of keep, but after re-reading the linked policies and considering the !votes for deletion as well as those explicitly for merge, I felt that a merger which retained large parts of the material reflected the overall consensus. If you wish to see the decision reversed, you are able to do so at Wikipedia:Deletion review. However, I'm happy to discuss it more and explain my reasoning in further detail if you'd prefer to talk it through first. —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Why did you feel the Keep !vote arguments were not sufficient to satisfy a Keep of the article. I think the reliable sources demonstrate a strong case for this subject to have its own page and not just to be a small sub-section lost in the large Woke page, and it seemed that the largest share of the consensus on the AfD agreed with that sentiment, so I am not sure of your reading of the "consensus" as apparent on the AfD discussion. I will contest it, yes, if we cannot resolve this here. I think keeping the AfD open for a little while longer would have made sense too, and I think that the AfD was closed prematurely even if you disagree on what the apparent consensus in support of Keep was. Iljhgtn (talk) 13:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Deletion discussions are not a vote, as you know, and in any case the numbers were not particularly lopsided here. The sources cited by you and others to indicate the term should have a standalone page did not appear to all be reliable or in-depth coverage of the term, rather than mere mentions, as was pointed out in the discussion. I thought the most considered Keep arguments were effectively countered by others, while the arguments in favor of merger were not. There was clearly no consensus for wholesale deletion. A merge today does not mean that the article could not be recreated as a standalone in the future, provided that the necessary secondary sourcing focusing on that term in-depth comes into existence or is located. —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Deletion discussions are not a vote as you mentioned, but rather are based on WP policy. One of my comments had directly addressed the "reliable or in-depth coverage of the term, rather than mere mentions" point you are mentioning. There are in fact numerous (at least half a dozen or so) reliable sources which write about both woke and woke mind virus as independent terms with their own unique coverage that I was able to find with very little research. A more exhaustive search quite readily finds many more, perhaps a dozen or more (many of which were cited on the article itself if reviewed). I addressed this in a response to one editor named "buidhe" I believe in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woke Mind Virus with a Rolling Stone, Snopes, and The Wallstreet Journal piece directly cited. A fleeting mention of WP:NOPAGE was offered as counter, but no rebuttal was made of the sources provided. Iljhgtn (talk) 10:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Deletion discussions are not a vote, as you know, and in any case the numbers were not particularly lopsided here. The sources cited by you and others to indicate the term should have a standalone page did not appear to all be reliable or in-depth coverage of the term, rather than mere mentions, as was pointed out in the discussion. I thought the most considered Keep arguments were effectively countered by others, while the arguments in favor of merger were not. There was clearly no consensus for wholesale deletion. A merge today does not mean that the article could not be recreated as a standalone in the future, provided that the necessary secondary sourcing focusing on that term in-depth comes into existence or is located. —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Why did you feel the Keep !vote arguments were not sufficient to satisfy a Keep of the article. I think the reliable sources demonstrate a strong case for this subject to have its own page and not just to be a small sub-section lost in the large Woke page, and it seemed that the largest share of the consensus on the AfD agreed with that sentiment, so I am not sure of your reading of the "consensus" as apparent on the AfD discussion. I will contest it, yes, if we cannot resolve this here. I think keeping the AfD open for a little while longer would have made sense too, and I think that the AfD was closed prematurely even if you disagree on what the apparent consensus in support of Keep was. Iljhgtn (talk) 13:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
- Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
- Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
- Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
- Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
- Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
- Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
- Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
- Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed
See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Arora Akanksha for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arora Akanksha (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Mottezen (talk) 04:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Second Thoughts Band (10:54, 6 May 2024)
Hello. Ive just joined. How Do I publish what ive written? --Second Thoughts Band (talk) 10:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- You could submit an article via WP:AfC - Articles for Creation. It will be reviewed and commented on by an experienced editor. However, I should caution you that writing about an organization you are involved in, such as a band, is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia (see WP:COI editing). It's also a violation of the WP:Username policy to have a name which represents a group (such as a band) rather than an individual. I recommend you start fresh with a new account or request a WP:Username change. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Lallonier (12:43, 6 May 2024)
Hi, I'm in the process of drafting an article with other students. Is there anyways for them to have access to the draft I have created to edit alongside me?
Thank you for your help, --Lallonier (talk) 12:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Draft articles should be public - pretty much everything on Wikipedia is. If you create an article in Draft space, they will be able to access it via the same link you do. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Deletion review for Woke Mind Virus
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Woke Mind Virus. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Iljhgtn (talk) 12:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC) This is my first time doing a deletion review by the way so I am not sure if I have "properly" notified you or linked to the correct page. My apologies in advance if I have posted in error. Thanks.Iljhgtn (talk) 12:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 May 3 is where it can be found to save you some time if that is instead where I should have linked. I appreciate your demeanor and polite attitude throughout this process. Iljhgtn (talk) 12:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Of course - we'll see where other folks wind up, but I also appreciate your thoughtful question and responses. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Annabel RL on Tabnine (02:46, 9 May 2024)
Hello, you are my mentor. How do I handle a topic without really knowing what they’re talking about. Thank you, Your student Annabel RL. --Annabel RL (talk) 02:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Is there a specific situation/topic you had in mind? —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
DYK nomination
Hi, Ganesha. I just got Interstate 85 in North Carolina promoted to GA status. Can you tell me how I can nominate it for DYK status? I'm a little confused and would like some guidance. Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- And I mean by adding a citation for the source, without using the citation template. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can just write out the citation (and link it) in prose, like this:
- Source: ...Filosofova came in, formally dressed to go to a party afterward. One of the nihilists commented nastily, "If she comes dressed like a doll to a serious meeting like this, it must mean she has nothing to do," to which Filosofova replied "Clothes do not make the woman."
- Page 77, from Ruthchild, Rochelle G. (2009). "Reframing public and private space in mid-nineteenth century Russia : the triumvirate of Anna Filosofova, Nadezhda Stasova, and Mariia Trubnikova". In Worobec, Christine D. (ed.). The human tradition in imperial Russia. The human tradition around the world. Lanham, Md.: Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 978-0-7425-3737-8
- If you have any issues, let me know and I can pop by and try and fix it. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from 29zervg (18:50, 14 May 2024)
If i edit something and the information is wrong do i get in trouble? --29zervg (talk) 18:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- If it's unintentional, no, though your edit may be reverted. If you deliberately vandalize or add false information to Wikipedia, you will be warned, and eventually banned. —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Um0klinst (19:35, 15 May 2024)
hi, if I have made edits and added new content to an article, but failed to add citations and another editor removed the new content and archived it, how do I get the archived content. --Um0klinst (talk) 19:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Every article has a page history which you can look at to find previously extant text. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of Maria Trubnikova
Why delete and redirect? There was no argument in the AfD that the article had any problems except for notability/citations, and leaving the history intact under the redirect allows non admins to view the previous poor work in history and improve upon it. Please amend your close to just 'redirect' per WP:DGFA and restore the history under the redirect. Jclemens (talk) 06:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I follow. The article had a notability issue, as you say, and arguments in favor of keep were well-countered by those in favor of deletion. The consensus was in favor of deletion, but a navigational redirect would be useful - hence delete and redirect. I don't see guidance on WP:DGFA indicating that this course was incorrect. Could you explain your thinking in more detail? If the material is desired for incorporation, I can put it in a sandbox, but I didn't see arguments for Merge in the discussion. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- The main guidance in WP:DGFA not followed here is the bolded point #4:
When in doubt, don't delete.
Deletion to the point where something is not available to non-admins is absolutely indicated when something is hoax, copyvio, defamatory, or other BLP concerns. For things that are simply unreferenced and/or insufficiently referenced to demonstrate notability, outright deletion may well still be indicated when there is no redirect target. But in this case, we have an identified redirect target, a related topic, into which some of the material could conceivably be merged. - Here's the kicker: You don't need to see a preponderance of !votes for an outcome to assess that as consensus. As an admin, you're charged to do the best thing for the encyclopedia on the basis of policy-based opinions provided by the AfD participants. In this case, it is clear that the consensus is that notability has not been demonstrated, but it is also abundantly clear that there is a related topic into which the content may be merged: probably not, but at some point in the future an editor not participating in the AfD might want to expand the target article with content from the redirection. As you no doubt recall, primary sourced statements from a non-notable article can clearly be re-used in a notable article, as long as that article is not primarily composed of such statements.
- By redirecting the article without deleting it, you provide a de facto deletion--the article is gone, redirected to the notable topic--while still allowing a potential future editor to use that non-notable material still present in history for either re-creating a separate article or merging content into the target article. This values appropriately the good-faith contributions of the editors who worked on the inadequate version by leaving it in history, but not visible to readers, and does not take up any additional database space to do so.
- Does that adequately explain why a straight redirect rather than a delete-and-redirect is a more policy-based outcome for a non-notable topic with an identified redirect (and possibly merge) target? Jclemens (talk) 17:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I see your point, and will bear it in mind in the future, but I'm not convinced that "redirect" is more policy-based than "delete and redirect", rather than simply being more convenient for editors. To put it simply, I wasn't in doubt in this case. However, no reason here not to make the content available for possible incorporation, as you say, so I've created User:Ganesha811/Baalveer3 and will drop a note on the talk page. Thanks for raising the issue. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- The main guidance in WP:DGFA not followed here is the bolded point #4:
Tupou VI
Hello, sorry to bother you. You were the first one to review the article Tupou VI. I have edited the article since and would like you to review it if you have time. If you can't that's ok. History6042 (talk) 16:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't have time right now, but good luck with a new GA nomination! —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. History6042 (talk) 17:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Institute for Legislative Analysis Deletion
Good Evening, I am writing to let you know this is now the second time the Institute for Legislative Analysis page has been deleted. I am both requesting both its un-deletion and a review by admin into the past deletion actions on the basis of WP:COI.
Upon the original flagging of the page for deletion (roughly two weeks ago) I made a long list of edits in an attempt to appease those seeking the deletion for WP:ORGCRITE. I added these additional four sources to meet WP:ORGCRITE: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-conservative-group-grades-lawmakers-limited-government-principles-see-where-yours-stands; https://www.gillettenewsrecord.com/news/wyoming/article_17db6053-4975-5b50-b1e0-3fe3ef4e4317.html; https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/2453025/nikki-haley-tops-limited-government-score-card/; https://marylandmatters.org/2023/06/14/political-notes-a-new-scorecard-gop-claims-vindication-in-poll-and-perezs-new-post/.
Despite the additions and edits made, these individuals still sought to delete ILA alleging it is not a notable organization. To be clear, any objective and rational review of the ILA’s work and influence confirms it is a major player in conservative politics. ILA’s CEO was recently named one of the 500 most influential people in public policy due to ILA’s work - https://www.washingtonian.com/2024/05/02/washington-dcs-500-most-influential-people-of-2024/?__cf_chl_tk=6efEngfVVSbtKjs3ytmihacmdrBsnFaeLcmivLKBr_E-1717299913-0.0.1.1-9001.
Plus, if that was all not enough, I learned a couple of days ago that the ILA is closely followed by Members of Congress. In fact, over two dozen U.S. Representatives posted about a recent ILA report in the last 48 hours alone. Upon reviewing a couple lawmaker posts, I learned that the ILA is actually an entity of the Conservative Partnership Institute – the most powerful MAGA org tied to President Trump and Mark Meadows. Therefore, I thought I could finally without a doubt put the entire debate to rest - there are countless articles that demonstrate the notability of CPI, including an extensive one from the New York Times. This solved every possible concern those seeking to delete ILA could have. I was in the process of adding additional documentation to the ILA page (such as financial disclosures on CPI and ILA with same address, members of Congress acknowledgement, etc.). However, before I could make the updates to the ILA page, it was deleted for yet the 2nd time.
Since the ILA is one of the top players in conservative politics I could not understand why the page was coming under such attack for deletion. Therefore, I started looking at the profiles of those seeking its deletion. Interestingly, they appear to be philosophically progressive. While I am unsure if there is a political motivation behind their advocacy to delete the page, I think it is fair to say they probably do not have much understanding of conservative politics, especially compared to someone myself who closely follows conservative non-profits.
But perhaps even more interesting, when doing additional research into ILA’s financials, I found out that the American Conservative Union has filed a lawsuit against the ILA claiming multiple counts of “unfair competition in the marketplace”. Apparently, both of the orgs produce scorecards. And it just so happens that these deletion flags came around the same time as the filing of the lawsuit.
Thank you for your help in this matter and work to uphold the integrity of Wikipedia. Politicalorganizationjunkie (talk) 04:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Accusing other Wikipedians of acting out of political motivations, or implying that they are being paid by a rival organization, is not something that should be done lightly. I suggest you retract those remarks unless you have actual evidence of a COI. The page did not come "under attack" - it simply has been found to be non-notable. If you wish to contest that decision, WP:Deletion review is available, but I should warn you that you are not likely to have much success there in this case. I would also note that if ILA is a sub-organization of Conservative Partnership Institute (and you have reliable sources discussing the connection), why not just add a sentence or two to our article on CPI and create a redirect? —Ganesha811 (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Question from Samiali84 (11:02, 3 June 2024)
I run a website, and cover these type of topics like anime characters , movies and series. I want to create a my own wikipedia page about my website, is it possible? --Samiali84 (talk) 11:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Editing about something you have a connection to, or using Wikipedia for promotion, is strongly discouraged. I urge you to find other topics you're interested in to edit about. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).
- Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351
- The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
- The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.
- WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!
Question from UsernameNotIn (22:55, 7 June 2024)
Hello, mentor. So, this article(2024 Rio Grande do Sul Flood) says I can help translate it from the portuguese article, but it's protected to prevent vandalism. Can I edit it or not? If not, why is the "You can translate this" thing there if the page is protected? --UsernameNotIn (talk) 22:55, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Good question! You're right, those do contradict if you're a new editor, or an IP editor. That page is "semi-protected", which means your account needs to be at least 4 days old and have at least 10 edits to make changes. However, once you've reached those thresholds, you should be able to make changes. The Portuguese translation template is there to encourage more-experienced editors to keep improving the article. —Ganesha811 (talk) 23:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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Congratulations o your recent FA! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda! Can't believe it's been four years. —Ganesha811 (talk) 11:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)