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2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict

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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel‎

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Syria

Can you atleast not delete all that info when you that statement in? Sopher99 (talk) 18:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Re-add this paragraph that you removed.

On 2 January 2013, the United Nations released an estimate that the war's death toll had exceeded 60,000; on 12 February, this figure was updated to 70,000. According to various opposition activist groups, between 62,550 and 74,470 people have been killed, of which about half were civilians, but also including 30,520 armed combatants consisting of both the Syrian Army and rebel forces, up to 2,715 opposition protesters and 1,000 government officials. By October 2012, up to 28,000 people had been reported missing, including civilians forcibly abducted by government troops or security forces. According to the UN, about 1.2 million Syrians have been displaced within the country. To escape the violence, as many as 1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries. In addition, tens of thousands of protesters have been imprisoned and there were reports of widespread torture and psychological terror in state prisons. International organizations have accused both government and opposition forces of severe human rights violations. However, human rights groups report that the majority of abuses have been committed by the Syrian government's forces, and UN investigations have concluded that the government's abuses are the greatest in both gravity and scale.

I did not remove that paragraph. Are you blind? --Emesik (talk) 19:08, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Check again yourself. Only 2 sentences of the original paragraph are there. Sopher99 (talk) 19:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Scroll down. Read before you click. --Emesik (talk) 19:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

What I mean is place the whole paragraph in the lede, where it belongs. Sopher99 (talk) 19:12, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

The beginning of the article should be clear and simple summary. Readers more interested in details will keep on reading. The paragraph about UN report is very important indeed, but attacking a reader with dozens of numbers is not a good practice for the leading section. No matter how important the numbers are. I referred to that section, citing the most important info. Furthermore, the lede was horribly outdated and contained no information about the current situation on the ground. --Emesik (talk) 19:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll keep your statement, but that info that was originally put there belongs in the lede. Sopher99 (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

Hello, I'm Tolly4bolly. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Syrian civil war with this edit without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Tolly4bolly 20:00, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Syria lede

Please don't alter the lede with discussing first in the talkpage. Sopher99 (talk) 20:01, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

There is no rule in Wikipedia to ask for permission to edit. However, you should discuss instead of warring with reverts. --Emesik (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

You are reverting my edit which I just did a while ago. Self revert. Sopher99 (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Which was a revert of my edit. Don't be silly. --Emesik (talk) 20:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

If you have to make change then first talk with other editors in the talk page before making changes. Anyway, I'm not a bot. Tolly4bolly 20:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Tolly can you revert it back. We are both pretty far into a quasi edit war and there are multiple sock puppets of Chronical Usual messing with the page as well. Sopher99 (talk) 20:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I saw that you did before I managed. Anyway, I've requested full protection of the article and hope you both can discuss it on talk page and come to consensus. All the best! Tolly4bolly 20:16, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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Please read my latest comments at ANEW. If you agree to my offer not to edit the article for 7 days, I will not block you. You must respond there or here.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:08, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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⇌ Jake Wartenberg 21:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

1 Revert rule

You broke the 1 revert rule just there.

http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Syrian_civil_war&diff=553553654&oldid=553511928

http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Syrian_civil_war&diff=553564397&oldid=553563652

I expect you won't do it again. Sopher99 (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

You must be kidding to call the second edit a revert. --Emesik (talk) 01:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

You reverted Sayersville' edit http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Syrian_civil_war&diff=553560921&oldid=553556227 Sopher99 (talk) 01:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Sue me. --Emesik (talk) 01:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I could report you. You want me to do that? Sopher99 (talk) 01:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure, do it. --Emesik (talk) 01:36, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

plain words

just following the source. at least i didnt get to 'most of' from 'several' Sayerslle (talk) 01:55, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that 'most of'. I had two websites open and mixed up wording from another one. My mistake. --Emesik (talk) 01:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Beware of pro-islamic terrorism so-called "arab spring" Wikipedia lobby

Hi, I just want to encourage you to keep on editing, as someone has to act against that WP lobby wich is simply re-writing history, with the bendition of many administrators. I have seen lately many WP editors wich had abandoned it, mostly because the behaviour of several administrators or users, who act like real nazis. Regards, --HCPUNXKID (talk) 13:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Capitalization of "civil war"

Hey, can you comment on this?--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 17:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Syrian civil war

Your last edit violated WP:1RR on this article. You've been blocked before for doing that. At this point, I don't intend to block you, although another admin is not precluded from doing so. I suggest you consider self-reverting and taking your sourcing issue to the talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

You must be joking. Show me exactly where I violated 1RR.--Emesik (talk) 00:29, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

You know, if you're going to edit contentious articles here and you've been blocked previously, you really should take a few moments to understand policy: Revert #1; Revert #2.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps you should take a few moments to learn what the term revert means. How are you going to qualify the second edit as such? --Emesik (talk) 00:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Do you really think such a pugnacious attitude in response to a warning by an admin is going to help you? "An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert." Your second edit undid another editor's action (whatever editor put that language in the article that you removed). More simply put, for the purpose of breaching WP:1RR, it doesn't matter whether a subsequent revert involves different material from a previous revert. Nor is it necessary that you click on Undo or rollback or any other command that immediately undoes a previous edit or edits to constitute a "revert".--Bbb23 (talk) 00:48, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

You mean if I remove ANY content in two edits within 24hrs, it constitutes a 1RR violation? That is a very interesting interpretation of the rules. --Emesik (talk) 00:53, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes to your first sentence (assuming they are not consecutive edits).--Bbb23 (talk) 00:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Then I have to wait 24h before removing a single word? As I told you, this is very interesting interpretation. Unfortunately, I cannot agree with that. --Emesik (talk) 01:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

You don't have to agree. You simply have to abide by policy, or you risk being blocked for violating policy.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

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Perhaps you were trying to make a joke, but this is not funny. --Emesik (talk) 18:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

This is the diff that resulting in the warning. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 19:25, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Since when a single revert means edit warring? --Emesik (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

The system is "bold, revert, discuss;" not "bold, revert, revert again and pretend I have no idea this is wrong." This is particularly crucial on 1RR articles. Since you were one revert away from being in violation, I wanted to provide you with a courtesy reminder. But of course you already know this, since you have been here before as a result of your POV pushing. VQuakr (talk) 21:39, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

ROTFL You're getting even funnier. I was one revert away from violation, you say? Perhaps you're smart enough to find someone who made two reverts of the same page within 24h recently? Did he get your warning as well, Mr. Vigilant? --Emesik (talk) 22:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Your sarcasm is very helpful. No, there are no other examples of someone edit warring by re-inserting the exact same content in that article's history in the last ~24 hours. Your behavior stood and continues to stand out as uncollaborative. VQuakr (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

So, inserting the same content is edit warring, but removing it twice is not? Your logic is very interesting, so I dare to ask more questions: Assuming that I was warring, whom I was doing it with? Myself? Perhaps it was the first one-sided war in the history? :) --Emesik (talk) 22:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Syrian civil war

I have copy pasted this bit from one of the article s- 'The newly released Islamists went on to play leading roles in the armed opposition, including helping found Ahrar ash-Sham.' - am I missing something - or what are you doing? Sayerslle (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC) 14:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

The Ahrar started working on forming brigades “after the Egyptian revolution,” Abu Zayd said, well before March 15, 2011, when the Syrian revolution kicked off with protests in the southern agricultural city of Dara’a. — this is also c&p from the source. --Emesik (talk) 15:53, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

oh, I see - but it seems to me the point of the sentence in the wp article is the part played by those Assad was keen to release and who went on to help found ahrar ash sham - the point you link to seems about something else in a way - is it related to those released directly? it seems to be about elements who were not released by Assad in early 2011 - maybe start a new sentence? if you think it is essential. Sayerslle (talk) 16:25, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

It is essential to mention that first brigades had been formed before the protests in Syria began, which simply means that the armed opposition is not a product of the revolution movement but had existed before. --Emesik (talk) 16:45, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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