User talk:Charlesdrakew/Archives/2013/February

Bus Routes

Is my page List of bus routes in Soham notable? Englandtransport (talk) 21:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

It does not have any reliable secondary sources so no it is not notable.--Charles (talk) 21:37, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Is it at risk of deletion? Englandtransport (talk) 20:22, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

If you read WP:NOT, particularly WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTTRAVEL you will see that Wikipedia does not want to be a travel guide. We have Wikivoyage for that. This is on top of the lack of secondary sources causing the article to fail WP:GNG. For these reasons any such list of non-notable routes is at risk of deletion. You may also like to have a look at UK Transport Wiki on Wikia where enthusiasts can make all the lists they like.--Charles (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I do see why list of bus routes are not notable. Blue Square Thing on the deletion notice said that, for example, Buses in Lowestoft are more notable than any lists. Do you believe that it is worth my time working on these types of pages as they are less likely to get deleted or changing over to trains? Sorry for asking so many questions but as you can see I fairly new and still have not quite got to grips with notability. By the way what is SPI as you believe I have one shown below. Is it because too many of my pages have been deleted. 20:58, 30 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Englandtransport (talk • contribs) I did place a signature here! This bot must have made an error.

There are some excellent articles on buses such as Routemaster and others I can not find right now. It all depends on the availability of published secondary sources of course. I am interested in karate but some of the finest karate masters I have trained with do not have Wikipedia articles because it is mostly a word of mouth tradition and published books and newspaper or magazine articles are scarce. A year or two ago lists of bus routes usually survived AfD because of failure to reach consensus. Now it seems that consensus has swung against keeping such lists and it looks likely they will all go in time. Whether they will move to WikiVoyage or just disappear altogether I do not yet know. I think you will find that trains are more tightly controlled for notability and encyclopedic value than buses have been in the past.--Charles (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

So good to see commonsense prevail. A good place to point bus spotters to, away from Wikipedia is the UK Transport Wiki at Wikia. They can wikifiddle away to their hearts content there without the pesky rules that we have here. --Bob Re-born (talk) 23:31, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Englandtransport (talk) 19:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

valley of flowers

Dear sir, The link i Put on [[1]]was of a good site. there is other link in references indiaguide.trailofview.com/trail/Valley_of_Flowers kindly remove this redirect. This takes nowhere to a user. Kindly clean Wikipedia do not spoil it. Please try not to be against all external links. If wiki feels that all links are spam than why do they allow a link at all.

All together now - Spam spam glorious spam!--Charles (talk) 18:08, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Please allow this link. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.172.191.20 (talk) 18:55, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: Deletion

I saw nearly anything wrong with that article, so that's why I took it away, you can put the deletion back if you want. --BouncyGlow (talk) 13:50, 5 February 2013 (UTC)BouncyGlow

Old Windsor article

Hi Charles,

I received a message from you saying that you undid one or more of my recent contributions to Old Windsor because it appeared to be promotional. I assure you it wasn't, since I have zero business interest in the area, but if it seemed biased, then thank you. Could you please tell me what it was you undid, since I can't find anything missing.

Thanks,

Scott ScottRanceJohnson (talk) 18:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks again! Ocaasi 01:59, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Removing an !vote from an AfD discussion

Can you please explain this? --Oakshade (talk) 06:32, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Not really. Absolutely unintentional I assure you and apologies that it happened. I was away from home for a few days and using a borrowed tablet to catch up. I must have misclicked while the text was jumping around I suspect. Have you undone the change or do I need to put it back?--Charles (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I restored my contribution. Thank you. I might delete the entire article content and replace it with a stub that editors can start with.--Oakshade (talk) 20:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

East York Town Centre

I was wondering why do you have to remove some of the content in East York Town Centre? Does it violate the terms of Wikipedia? --BouncyGlow (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2013 (UTC)BouncyGlow

It has no sources. It fails verifiability for certain and probably WP:NOTDIR. The subject of the article may well fail notability. All facts added to Wikipedia must have a reliable source and should be supported by inline citations.--Charles (talk) 18:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Teach the Controversy

Hi, I gave a valid reason for their removal if you had bothered to read the edit summary, the linked page or my talk page. Thanks, 86.44.163.139 (talk) 09:51, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Charles: there is a large scale transfer of interwiki links. See WP:WDATA Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 09:54, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll also ask if you could kindly remove the links again. I have checked that they are all on Wikidata. 86.44.163.139 (talk) 09:56, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I had missed this development.--Charles (talk) 09:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much. :) 86.44.163.139 (talk) 10:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Ocaasi ^{t | c} 21:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Adoption :)

I am hoping that you will adopt me for the adopt-a-user program. My description that I was supposed to fill out is the last section on my userpage. Thanks! — nerdfighter 00:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Nerdfighter.

I would be happy to adopt you. Having looked through your user pages at what you have achieved in 4 months I am not sure if I can teach you a lot though. I see you have found the Teahouse which has an archive of excellent answers to many questions on many topics. I am too lazy to run a structured training programme as some adopters do, and you may not want that anyway, but I am always happy to answer stupid questions and I can help with Manual of Style matters for example.--Charles (talk) 10:28, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Eastbourne Model Village

Hi, just to say that i added the information about the Redoubt Model Village because i am the Grandson of the two people who Built and Maintained the model village..so i know this as fact. I spent many years of my childhood playing there.. I still own the house where my Grandad built some of the models in the back garden before moving them to the Redoubt. Of course he also had several workshops within the Redoubt. Seeing as the the model village was owned built and totally maintained by my Grandparents it is only just and respectful that they are credited. There is even a PDF from the Council that mentions my Grandad building the model village..http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/EasysiteWeb/getresource.axd?AssetID=6523&type=full&servicetype=Inline

Regards Paul White ( grandson to Benjamin & Peggy White — Preceding unsigned comment added by PawCat (talk • contribs) 10:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Paul. If there is a source which covers the information, and I have not yet had time to read through it, it needs to be added as a reference with inline citations where it applies. See WP:Citing sources. What you cannot do is add your own unpublished recollections even if they are entirely accurate. That would be original research which is not allowed. I can help if you have problems formatting the reference and you can always get advice at the Teahouse.--Charles (talk) 10:41, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: List of bus routes in Worcestershire

Hi Charlesdrakew

Thank you for yor feedback

The reason why i Deleated the one Reference is because it doesn't link to a page on wikipedia or even on the Worcestershire County Council website

You removed the reflist template, other templates and the categories. Without reliable sources the material you add will be removed as unverified. And remember that Wikipedia is not a travel directory.--Charles (talk) 17:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Arain

I appreciate your continued concern regarding the state of Arain. - Sitush (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I am happy to help fight the constant POV-pushing. My editing statistics show I make more edits to that page than any other by quite a margin.--Charles (talk) 08:56, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Caste articles tend to be prone to such pushing but the "inferior" comment seems to have truly riled some people. I have done some editing there as a 2.* IP over the last few weeks due to unavoidable circumstances (away from home, using someone else's PC etc) but hopefully things are back to normal in my life now. Still, as long as you retain your interest then I'd appreciate your involvement: it makes the point that it is not all about *me*. That said, we are probably close to the time when semi-protection should be applied and I'll go ahead with such a request if the hassle continues for much longer. - Sitush (talk) 11:00, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Range of the American Bison

Hello Charles, thank you for your feedback on my editing of erroneous info about the original range of the American Bison, and your reason for undoing said edit.

I have gone back and again corrected the info on the eastern extent of the bison's original range - this time with two sources (U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service species page and Smithsonian-published book by a Superintendent of the National Zoological Park in Washington DC) provided.

BTW, I do not believe my original unsourced edit actually constitutes "vandalism". Per Wikipedia:

Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism. Edit warring over content is not vandalism. Careful consideration may be required to differentiate between edits that are beneficial, detrimental but well-intentioned, and vandalizing. Mislabelling good-faith edits as vandalism can be considered harmful. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND

Thank you, MJG 108.232.12.175 (talk) 05:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I am glad I was mistaken in assuming vandalism. If you create an account, give an edit summary in the box by the save button and most important of all give sources for new information, other editors will not make that assumption.--Charles (talk) 09:42, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Ipswich

Hi Charles

thanks your message

pls see link below

http://www.spidexsoftware.co.uk/media/Newsletter_Issue_2.pdf

I hope u deem this acceptable

many thanks

Lincoln Springer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lincoln Springer (talk • contribs) 20:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

No we do not need this thank you. To be added as a notable resident a person is required to have their own Wikipedia page. Adding trivia to get a link to your company website will not wash.--Charles (talk) 00:17, 26 February 2013 (UTC)