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why? That thread was pretty inoffensive and highly amusing....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

I know, but after linking it I noticed it was in a "members only" subforum, and it was off-topic really, on an RfA. It's stuck in my mind and always makes me smile, and perhaps I shouldn't have removed it, on reflection, but you'd be (un)surprised by the number of people who will have seen and enjoyed it anyway, just from watchlists etc. -- Begoon 13:04, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

I'd forgotten about it, and it made me chuckle reading it again...I was trying to find a youtube clip where Marcel Wave (Kenny Everett) strips and reveals Kenny, saying "Yes!! It was me ll the time!!!"...but alas I couldn't find it...so that joke fell flat (but still enjoyed watching some old Kenny Everett filmclips) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:37, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Cas, I remember that, and I can't find it either. Just some unrelated shit with David Essex. Has it really been over 20 years? Ouch. God rest him. - Begoon 03:45, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Or...."Is Elton John his real name?"....(other guy) "Is Elton John whose real name? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Cas, I only just glanced at this again, and I finally noticed you used 3 different sigs in 3 posts. Unobservant, moi? Well played. (I think...) - Begoon 10:59, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Purely accidental. Second one was a typo, I have no idea how. Third one was just one extra set of italics. All three were originally signed with the 4 tildes....so not clever at all :P Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Damn. Never mind. At least it was all done in the best possible taste... (crosses legs..). -- Begoon 12:24, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

linky thing...

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For this reference to one of my favourite films - tragically, you can't thank revision deleted diffs. (So, did you turn pro with that belly button trick, Ned?) Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:45, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Ritchie. True story: A few years ago I was re-watching the film on a satellite channel when my wife came home. "Jeez," she said, "is that movie on again? I don't understand how you can keep watching it over and over." To her credit, when I collapsed in a helpless heap of laughter she did realise why. Anyway, a side effect of all this has been that I now have "I Got You Babe" stuck in my head... -- Begoon 00:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

I would probably revert that last pic...

...While I am in favour of fucking da category police (in the non-sexual way) I am generally not in favour of singling out specific editors for visual mockery. There is a line where humour crosses over into meanness. Only in death does duty end (talk) 09:46, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

You're probably right. I have nothing against either Mike or the Judge. Done. -- Begoon 09:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

OK, but i love Mike, inna kinda manly way. -Roxy the dog. bark 10:01, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Heh. The real shame is that those {{Multiple image}} templates are a pain to set up and align... -- Begoon 10:08, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for listening, humourous as it may be, it does fall on the wrong side of the line. Fortunately its closed now, I had my own derailing set for later anyway if it stayed open. But I expect the issue will crop up again. (especially since I just reverted the changes to my own userpage) Only in death does duty end (talk) 11:57, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm not actually sure it is fortunate that it's closed. I have a bit of a history here, with Gerda particularly, and if it's pissing off people like you and her then maybe it does need to be brought to a head sooner rather than later? (see [1]) -- Begoon 12:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't piss me off as such. I don't care enough about the internal gnome bickering over wanted:categories. I don't care enough about people messing with my userpage to do more than hit undo. Granted if people start edit-warring on my userpage about it, they will get a very different and unpleasant (for them) response. Did you have that police dog pic to hand btw, or was it a lucky google? Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:40, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

No, I did a Commons search. -- Begoon 14:12, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I found two things: a way of having red cats that has been tolerated by the cats ~~police~~ watchful eyes (my user page, section boxes, and even yours Begoon, sort of), and a great way to make stunning galleries of images nicely aligned, seen on Monterey Bay Aquarium. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I know about "gallery mode=packed heights=..." - it's cool, but didn't really do what I wanted here, because I wanted the thumbnail style. I also have a template - User:Begoon/RCbox - which was inspired by you, years ago. I hardly ever use it, but it seems it can also contain a red cat... (well, orange really, but that works here too...) This:[2] was an awesome edit. Thank you. -- Begoon 00:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Batman

Luckily, we're in tip-top condition

Since you thanked me for this edit, you probably noticed my edit summary. That's good. I did mean it as a salute to your own comment. :-) [Bishonen and all her socks shake hands with Batman, Robin, and Begoon.] Bishonen | talk 22:05, 1 January 2018 (UTC).

"Who knows," Bish? "This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single service ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuously, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." [3]. -- Begoon 22:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Hi Begoon. Thank you so much for all your work on File:William Foster Nye.jpg. Yesterday I went back to the article to make a few copyedits and thought "Hmmmm. That portrait looks a lot better than it did before." I clicked on the image and saw your painstaking restoration—not to mention your addition of the signature. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. There was also a higher resolution JP2 version of the advertisement image at the archive.org source (in a 700 Mb download of all the raw scans from that book), so I've downloaded and extracted that, cleaned up the creases, blemishes etc, and replaced the smaller version. I also created a greyscaled version, at File:Nye Oils advertisement, 1894 (greyscaled).jpg, which I think I personally prefer, since it seems "cleaner" and I feel the images look better. I haven't replaced the article image with the greyscaled version because I think you should make the decision whether or not to do that. On the one hand, I feel it's justified, because all it does is remove the colour of the paper on which the advert just happened to be printed in the book that happened to be scanned - on the other hand it is that colour in the original scan... So, you can use whichever version you prefer. Or, just let me know if there's anything you'd like altering about either version (for instance, the greyscale version could very easily be made a bit "whiter", but it does tend to get a bit "glaring" if you go too far). Cheers. -- Begoon 07:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Brilliant! I've now substituted your grey-scale version in the article. I agree about not making it "whiter"—it would be a bit glaring. It's funny. I wrote the article when I saw all the brouhaha at ANI. But as often happens, that led me down more paths and resulted in the cemetery where Nye is buried, and William H. Whitfield, a very interesting chap who's also buried there. I'm about to start yet another article on the wacky Spiritualist retreat, of which Nye was a prominent supporter. Feel free to stalk any or all of these if you think the images could be improved. Once again, thank you for all your help, Voceditenore (talk) 10:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Wow! My every wish was your command. You fixed Captain Whitfield and Mr. Nakahama too! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For your wonderful photograph restorations, above and beyond the call of duty! Voceditenore (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Moons of Saturn 2007

Moons of Saturn 2007.jpg

An OTRS customer noticed that File:Moons of Saturn 2007.jpg has some text cropping for Enceladus, likely due to the image for Dione. I'm not sure how the original text should read, so I thought I'd let you know about the issue. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 5 March 2018 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

Heh - I thought you'd be right, but it wasn't lost when I replaced Dione - it was never there on any version we had - initial upload.

I could fix froz? -> frozen., but I don't know, and can't reliably guess what geologica??? should be. Possibly "geological past.", but that's a guess (and now I think more, maybe froz? -> frozen in the past.)
There doesn't seem to be anything else missing, but without an original you see my dilemma...
(I can even see that there could be words between cause...faults, "some of the" or "the largest" or "the squidgiest" etc... if you get my drift...)

But I'll sleep on it - I'm thinking a best, sensible, educated guess would be better than leaving it, and chances are I'll do something to it tomorrow. -- Begoon 18:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I uploaded a new version, using the original NASA text I eventually found at: [4] and [5].

It was "geologically recent past.", "frozen eons ago." and "cause the sides of the faults," so my guesses were close (except the last), but no cigar...

There are a few things about this image I would improve, given access to the original sources, as I remarked over 6 years ago when I did the original replacement of Dione with the correct image, as requested at the Graphics Lab. It's such a nice image in general, though, that unless those sources do become available I don't want to "hack" at it and potentially degrade what we have. -- Begoon 04:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

It looks like the last upload reverted to the old version? Or is it just a cache thing and it's not showing yet. Primefac (talk) 13:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

I see the latest version, with the additions described above (there were 2 intermediate "guess" versions before I found the NASA text). Latest version = 4.5 Mb, which is bigger than all previous. Must be your cache (or a cache)... -- Begoon 13:52, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Yup. Just me. Thanks for updating it! Primefac (talk) 13:56, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Your script

User:Begoon/addUploadsLink

I tried installing your user uploads script on my meta page, only to find out that it's a hardcoded link to the English Wikipedia. It'd be pretty sweet if you could make it global instead :) ~★ nmaia ^d 08:40, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

NMaia - try it now, I think it should work. I had to also exclude commons where the link would be redundant, and change (delay until page fully loaded) the loading method because meta, at least, was running the script before the toolbox links were fully loaded. Let me know if you have any issues. -- Begoon 10:06, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

So fast! Thanks! I'll be sure to report if anything strange happens. ~★ nmaia ^d 10:13, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

What is particularly nice is that, for instance, at fr.wiki, even though my script links to Special:ListFiles (in English), Mediawiki goes to the right place Spécial:Liste_des_fichiers automatically. I initially thought the different language Special Page names might be a show-stopper, but no, it just works. -- Begoon 10:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh by the way, it just occurred to me that you can probably fetch the internationalized strings Commons is using to add to your script, to have instant universal internationalization. ~★ nmaia ^d 11:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I might look at that when I have a bit more time, and see how easy it would be. -- Begoon 11:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:IFIHAVETOPULLTHISCAROVERYOULLBOTHBESORRY

linky thing for the archive, cos I hate it when I can't find these things later...

You should create that, or find a place where it can be redirected.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 14:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Heh. It only sprang to mind because I actually had a couple of car trips recently where the poking, whining and squabbling coming from the back seat sounded very much like that "discussion". -- Begoon 14:10, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

A beer for you!

link to conversation, for posterity...

I was reading your conversation of the Eiffel Tower page (the thread about its lack of style); thanks for the link to File:MonteAmiataVettaCroce.JPG. Truly the world is full of wonders. TheLongTone (talk) 13:35, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

It's awesome, isn't it? Remember, always that "Most are not exact replicas, though there are many like it."

It just goes to show that pleasure and wonder can be found even in a conversation born from grumpiness and negativity... Ciao. -- Begoon 06:36, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...

archive footage available at: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1013#Flixbus/Ashafir

Why are you so persistent about watching the Flixbus page? "non-notable trivia about booking/timetable issues" how you judge it? You should disclose you affiliation with FlixBus.Ashafir (talk) 11:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can no longer take you seriously. Sorry, I'm sure you're great fun at parties and that sort of thing, but, when it comes to this collaborative encyclopedia writing thing, I just don't think you and I are destined to be soulmates. Best of luck in your future endeavours. -- Begoon 18:41, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Apologies for my aggressive behavior towards you. While I stay opposite to you in the debate, I repent my unruly violation of a policy. Please kindly accept it and let's have a better spending together! THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 19:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

ImmortalWizard - thank you for the apology, it is appreciated.
There are a couple of things I feel I should make very clear though, because I'm worried you still don't properly understand.
First of all, it wasn't a policy which you violated - it was at least three of our most central, important core policies: WP:BLP, WP:3RR and WP:Verifiability, and that's without even trying to list any others. I'm not sure you realise how fortunate you were to not be blocked for this behaviour - many editors would just have gone straight to WP:ANEW after your fourth revert (I had a report ready after your fifth), or AN/I even earlier, and you'd now be posting unblock appeals on your talk page rather than cups of tea on mine...
Secondly, we're not on "opposite" sides of any "debate" - I've clearly indicated to you that I have no objection to content inclusion once you have consensus for exactly what to include (if anything) and reliable sources demonstrating lasting notability. Where we differ at the moment is that I (and others) don't view what's been presented as significant enough for inclusion and you do - that's fine, and consensus will decide that, but WP:BLP, WP:3RR and WP:Verifiability are non-negotiable.
What really concerns me is statements like "regarding the my adding of empty section, not sure if that is entirely inappropriate. I chose to at least indicate to readers that a significant story is missing." and I can only repeat what I said in reply to that - if you're not sure that adding the words "Rape accusations" as a big, attention-grabbing heading, with no explanation or reliable source whatsoever to a BLP is a serious infraction of policy then please don't edit any BLPs until you do understand. That you ignored my warnings (and the opinions of at least two other editors) in edit-summaries and edit-warred that "content" back in with summaries like "Theres isnt any rules like that.", really does nothing to reduce my concerns about your lack of proper understanding.
I've now looked at your talk page and its archives, and I noticed that, historically, you haven't been particularly good at taking helpful criticism of your actions on board, preferring to, somewhat pointlessly, "argue the toss" rather than accept correction - the best way you can "apologise" on this occasion is to demonstrate with your future actions that you have honestly understood all of this. -- Begoon 03:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

RfA

Test RfA page may have been poorly-executed, but that isn't to say it's a bad idea. On the contrary, we could use someone as formidable on the admin corps. El_C 03:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Also, you wouldn't need to make a future RFA have a "2" in the title. The old page title could be recreated. Just to put your mind at ease in that regard. Useight (talk) 03:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I realise that, now that El_C kindly speedied it. Thanks for the kind words, both of you - "formidable", eh? In French that means "super" or "fantastic" - and I doubt I'm either... In English, well, perhaps I'd be less "formidable" with the tools - I've seen that happen. It's not on my list of things to do right now, but obviously compliments are always nice - it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise. Cheers. -- Begoon 03:53, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Cassetteboy

Regarding your note about writing the article first; I think it's just simple cleanup that has been a long time coming - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inside A Whale's Cock Vol 1. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:13, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Ah, ok - you're right, that link was inserted in 2005. That raises a question, though - do AFD closing/deleting procedures/scripts do anything about redlinks? Not, of course that every redlink should always be removed - but are they presented to the closer/deleter to consider? (I'll ignore the fact that you put "Whale's Cock" and "a long time coming" in the same sentence - exploiting that would be too much like shooting fish in a barrel, and someone will probably be along in a minute to add the "Pricasso" image, with a caption of "Wales, cock" anyway...) -- Begoon 21:14, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, the modern AfD closer script does bring up a dialog when you close a debate as delete, listing everywhere the article is linked to and asking you if you want to preserve these as redlinks, or remove them. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:00, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

That's good. Perhaps it didn't do that in 2006 when Kungfuadam deleted that page (or perhaps they didn't use the script, if it even existed then) ... -- Begoon 21:19, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

File:Indian Navy logo.png

Thanks for modifying this so swiftly!— Vaibhavafro ^💬 21:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

No problem, I look at the image maintenance categories once a day to see if anything like that needs doing and you happened to upload it while I was refreshing the page. -- Begoon 21:16, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

FWIW, really surprised to hear that guru is recognizable outside India! ∯WBG^converse 14:24, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. Yeah, "Godman" I've never come across except on a couple of esoteric Indian pages, but "guru" is a pretty common term in english - it even gets (mis)used for business "specialists", sports "experts" - that kind of thing. Often total bollocks, but common nevertheless. I added "charismatic" to the suspect in question now you made me think about it. -- Begoon 14:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Fair use reductions

Hi Begoon. When you have time, can you please have a look at these for me? Thanks again! AlbanGeller (talk) 17:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

AlbanGeller, not at the moment, sorry. I'm reconsidering my participation at this website as a whole right now because of events unrelated to your request. My sincere apologies if that inconveniences you in any way. -- Begoon 00:16, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm very sorry to hear that, and I hope you feel better soon.

AlbanGeller (talk) 00:33, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

If you don't mind me asking, when do you imagine you'll have time? AlbanGeller (talk) 00:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

AlbanGeller, I've got time now. I'm just not doing it because the only action volunteers can take when they disagree with the way a site is run is to withdraw their free labour. It's going to seem petty to some, and I regret any disappointment to uninvolved users, but there you have it - at the moment I'm petulantly taking my ball home because the whole game is decidedly unenjoyable to me. Sorry again. -- Begoon 01:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I understand. How long do you think you'll take off? AlbanGeller (talk) 01:15, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Hard to say. I'd imagine I'll eventually just get back to my usual stance of ignoring the dickheads who've upset me, because they're ultimately inconsequential to me, but right now I'm still at the "pout and sulk" stage. I'll ask my 16-year old how long that should sensibly last if you like... -- Begoon 01:20, 20 December 2019 (UTC)