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East Bengal Ultras

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article East Bengal Ultras has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

If you go into Edit mode you will see I have "masked" one sentence that made no sense (appears with a yellow background). I also did the same with the block quote of the chants. There is one example in the text, I'm not sure the others are necessary. You could add the text of the chant(s) in the body of the text if you wish.

I have also "masked" the Recognition section. It's a selection of random "facts" contributors have found on the Internet. This is not encyclopedic and many/most of the mentions are not particularly noteworthy. I suggest they can be omitted or rewritten in paragraph form by the subject of the foreign media's coverage. I was able to integrate into the body of the article.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

East Bengal Ultras

Hi, I probably won't have time to take up a review right now but I'd say that there are several problems from the initial review that are still outstanding. There are sections of seemingly unsourced content (second paragraph of support, first paragraph of Growth of Ultras Culture, first paragraph of chants and slogans for example), some of the language still seems a little partisan to me on a quick read through and some other minor points. I think this would need some in-depth work between yourself and a willing nominator to reach GA status. As I say, I wouldn't have the time right now to undertake such a review unfortunately. Cheers. Kosack (talk) 09:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Kosack: OK. thanks a lot.  :) S A H A  13:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

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Corrected details and source about West Bengal Commission for Women

Dear, Wikipedian I am corrected the details and source about West Bengal Commission for Women with reliable sources and clean up deletion template of this article. I hope you will happy to my edits and correct any faults in this article. Thank you Yours faithfully Sathraho (talk) 12:25, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Sathraho, Hi, the problem is you are directly copying from the source. Please check your talkpage for more details. ❯❯❯ S A H A 12:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi, I m already added another history about this article. Thanks 😊 for suggest me about this. Thank you Sathraho (talk) 12:40, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of East Bengal the Real Power for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article East Bengal the Real Power is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Bengal the Real Power until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Vermeer

Your new template on one of the Vermeer pages appears to be based on other sites which have copied from Wikipedia, and plainly state their source here: [1]. I am not one of the editors of the material you have templated and only created the page based on a request from another editor. Since the template you are using is meant only for blatant violations perhaps you can remove it after you verify the link I provided which states that it copied the article from Wikipedia as a mirror page. If you have other clear indications of violation then let me know in order for me to trace down the editors who you state have improperly copied the material. JohnWickTwo (talk) 17:18, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

JohnWickTwo, when I checked here, it said 89% of edit. So, I requested revdel. ❯❯❯ S A H A 17:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
The template you are using states: "This template is reserved for obvious cases only, for other cases refer to Wikipedia:Copyright problems." Since I have given you the link stating that the report you used is not accurate in order for you to verify this, please refer to the copyright page to clarify your proof to me as requested. You are presently using the incorrect template which should be removed according to the copyright template. JohnWickTwo (talk) 18:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
JohnWickTwo, this is get complicated. i am confused. better i remove the template. ❯❯❯ S A H A 06:14, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Maryna Tkachuk

Greetings, good sir. Today I noticed that an article to which I invested time and effort to set up has been "speedy deleted", courtesy of yourself. It appears you based this on a claim that, quote "This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.ukma.edu.ua/index.php/about-us/sogodennya/vybory/179-vybory/kandydaty". There are a couple of things I'd like to tell you in regards to that.

1. I hold creative rights to the material in question, in a sence that I created it by request/on behalf of the person the material is about. The placement of said material on Wikipedia as well as the mentioned site are done with consent of the person in question; it was the goal of creating it in the first place. Therefore your claim to "copyright infringement" is invalid.

2. This is NOT a "direct copy" from the mentioned website. What you mentioned is essentially a resume-style information presented. It has been used in creation of a Wikipedia article, changing and adapting it in order for it to meet the standarts of a Wikipedia article.

3. Furthermore, the text mentioned is actually a translation of the original Wikipedia article on same person in Ukrainian - http://uk.wiki.x.io/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D1%83%D0%BA_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%B4%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0 - to which I am as well an author.

4. What amazes me is your hasty judjement and impressive ability to assume bad on people without an effort to verify things. You could spend a short while to read the article and figure out it is not what you claim a "direct copy". You could read it more and understand it contains the material that hints heavily on the consent/involvement of the person in question. You could visit the original linked article in Ukrainian and discover it is basically an adapted translation of that material. In fact, you seem to have done nothing of the mentioned. As a result, you showcased incompetence and poor judgment which only led to work going to waste and Wikipedia overall with less content than it could have been - hopefully the exact opposite to what you thrive as an editor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flchans (talk • contribs) 00:50, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Flchans, hi I'm Barkeep49, an editor and administrator on English Wikipedia. Just wanted to let you know that ArnabSaha and I are discussing this and you will get a response soon. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Flchans Hello, and sorry for the late reply
Since the article was a copy from external source, it violates copyright rules. You can only copy from the websites, which have CC BY SA 1.0, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 4.0 licenses. Or you can donate the copyrighted materials. Read WP:DCP. Also, Different Wikipedias have different policies and on English Wikipedia. ❯❯❯ S A H A 15:01, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I have since engaged in discussions with JLAN and Barkeep49 on this one. I still beleive it is a case of hasty judjment when assumptions are made with little effort to actually verify things. You could leave a message at my page and if volunteers on English Wiki are so careful and proactive about copyright, you'd get your declaration soon enough. I'm just upset you people act first and think later without letting people explain and plead their case - especially in situation like this one, when you have no knowledge of the person in question, have no command of Ukrainian et cetera. This is merely stating the obvious fact and not to be viewed as an insult. It's more me being upset with how bureaucratic the enviroinment of English Wikipedia really is and how quickly people here jump to hasty assumptions not really backed by anything.

Take JLAN for example, he looked at the site and saw that the information that was used and adapted (which is fundamentally different to "unambiguous direct copy" by the way) for a Wikipedia article - he automatically assumed this is a copyright infringement. Since he found the article infringing - he automatically assumed the photograph used is infringing something as well and marked that for deletion, while he was clearly wrong and the photo has already been verified. Then he claimed the person in question is not notable enough for English Wikipedia. Now he conjured up even more absurd claim of me being paid for my edits. It's that wicked logic and assuming bad on people is what I'm upset about. Why can't you people just leave things be and only react to DMCAs and only when the claimants back their claims sufficiently? Oh well, I guess as an editor you don't get to set the rules of how English Wiki operates. Thank you for your time and your response. Flchans (talk) 15:16, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Flchans, See, if anything goes against English wiki policy, action will be taken. You can't directly copy someting from any website, and paste it in wikipedia. And a I did leave a message in your talkpage right after it was nominated foe deletion, and you had almost 7-8 hours to challenge. ❯❯❯ S A H A 15:40, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

The text in English from the site in question is itself an adapted translation from Ukrainian Wikipedia. So technically it would be the site infringing copyright towards Wikipedia, not the other way around. I know it doesn't work like that because of Wiki's nature as free encyclopedia, but hopefully you get the idea. The problem as I see it lies in the fact that English Wikipedia operates in vacuum from Ukrainian, or indeed any other one. It's like when you produce something and want to sell your goods in different countries - you have to abide by distinct laws that exist in every of them, hard as it may be. I get your point, you were simply doing your job. Thanks once more. Since this is turning into an exercise in rhetoric, I think this is where we can put this to an end. I was already explained how can I get the materials "donated" and thus the issue resolved, and I'm on top of this. If I knew how different the enviroinment here is, I obviously would have accounted for that and the situation wouldn't have occured in the first place. Flchans (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Flchans, For any further issues and queries related to this, please visit User talk:Barkeep49/Archives/4#On Maryna Tkachuk article ❯❯❯ S A H A 12:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Your reversion of my edits on the 'Indian School Bahrain' page.

Please let me know what "disruptive edits" I made on the aforementioned page. Thank you. NightOwl66 (talk) 09:48, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

NightOwl66, Hello. the 'House' section was unsourced and unnecessary. You mentioned 2 cities, both Isa town and Riffa. Also, what was c. in infobox? Just write the exact number. ❯❯❯ S A H A 12:21, 18 February 2020 (UTC)


ArnabSaha, Hi, so the school has two campuses - which are in Isa Town and Riffa respectively. To say it is entirely situated in one of these is, obviously, misleading and wrong. 'c.' in the infobox means 'circa' as the school website mentions only "around 13,000 students" and not exactly 13,000 students. We don't know if it's more or less than that figure. Besides, you did not write the exact number either (and, as I've just said, we don't even know if it's 13000+). As for the house section, far be it from me to decide what's considered "necessary" in an article about a school, but it does shows up as a section in a lot of those. Example: https://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Mac.Robertson_Girls%27_High_School I hope that addresses it. Thanks ❯❯❯ N A H I 13:32, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
NightOwl66, Always use sources. Unsourced data will get removed most of the time. Mention that there are 2 campuses. And regarding the school strength, in the website it clearly mention total - 12445. Whenever you use any circa., try to use it like this {{circa|123}} this will show the full-form of the same, like this c. 123. If you compare with Mac.Robertson Girls' High School, you will clearly see, this article is more notable, and has a lot more info. I hope you get it. ❯❯❯ S A H A 14:42, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
ArnabSaha, Those are some really good tips. Though I should bring to your notice again that you did not give the exact number of students, and this last message of yours makes it seem like you willingly gave an incorrect figure. Do attend to that. Apart from that, thanks you very much; you've been very helpful. ❯❯❯ N A H I 16:27, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
NightOwl66, well, i would like to inform you, that I manually didn't input the figures. your edit seemed disruptive, and thats why i just undid them to its previous revision. keep exploring wikipedia, and you will learn more such things. ❯❯❯ S A H A 19:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
ArnabSaha Ah. Fair enough. ❯❯❯ N A H I 04:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Jake12195

Howdy! I believe you have made an error and inadvertently reverted my edit to Feni District and left a mistaken warning on my talk page. I was reverting vandalism from the same IP that I see you had recently reverted vandalism from, my guess is that you saw my username last and accidentally reverted my edit and warned me instead of reverting the IP user and warning them! False positives happen, so no worries, but I would appreciate if you could be more careful in the future. As this was a false positive, would you mind removing your warning from my talk page? Jake (talk) 07:57, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Jake12195, oh i see. sorry for that. i rectified it. ❯❯❯ S A H A 08:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
ArnabSaha, No need to apologize! I recently made a similar mistake myself, totally understand. Thanks for helping to combat vandalism on Wikipedia! All the best, Jake (talk) 08:11, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

February 2020

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Materialscientist, idk what happened. i reverted it using huggle and i did opposite. sorry. ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:06, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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Revive the article

Dear;

The List of ATK players has duplicated the actual content published at List of ATK (football club) players and has not done anythin' before that of. As the article is supposed to merge with it in order to avoid duplication. The authors simply pasted the materials and devoid the initial article List of ATK (football club) players usin' redirection and devastin' the actual published content.The appeal is urge deletion of this article and profound sustain of List of ATK (football club) players as it also include the article List of ATK (football club) Overseas players by the same author whereas List of ATK players is just a mere stub that doesn't enlist even more tham 3 players of the first season before the appeal of merger that one can access using the contributions and editin' history. List of ATK players is profound (upto 99.9%) duplication of the content of List of ATK (football club) players. Anyhow the author of List of ATK (football club) players managed to revive the article. The user is usin' his might immorally.

I would love if you will furnish the views at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ATK (football club) players


Regards,

SHISHIR DUA (talk) 11:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

SHISHIR DUA, being an article related to my rival club, i dont want to get into it deeply. but, i have left my response in the deletion page. 13:04, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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April 2020

Information icon Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:ATK Mohun Bagan FC, from its old location at User:ArnabSaha/ATK Mohun Bagan FC. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:21, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

some more things

https://www.facebook.com/FootballClubTakin/

https://www.facebook.com/rinpungfc2020/

- if can please create these 2 pages of clubs from bhutan super league 2019,20

- also add red colour for relegation in 2018-20 bsl and bpl seasons (top 2 leagues)

- eventually if can make page of 3rd level dzongkhag league

(lot of harsh users in all topics here, so better registered one makes as i got tired of reverting what someone doesnt care. tnx a lot 😀😀😀😀😀😀) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.137.230 (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I will try my best ❯❯❯ S A H A 18:06, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

updates

If can please update these:

- on east bengal page, add "f.c." or remove title to "fc" as two titles look different

- on persija jakarta, add "px" after logo size

- on tensung fc, add logo: https://www.google.com/search?q=tensung+fc&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ALeKk013DU7UoqstShgOdQF6S1yIMFSTFA:1588216663039&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEi5uQmI_pAhUDcZoKHeZ3A3kQ_AUoAXoECBYQAQ&biw=412&bih=718&dpr=2.63#imgrc=DQJKv92PxWFeUM

THANKS 🙏🙏🙏 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.198.186 (talk) 03:19, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, I will. ❯❯❯ S A H A 04:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please read. I am helping you I'm not spoiling your article

Please read. I am helping you I'm not spoiling your article Vala keep (talk) 07:12, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Please read

I am helping you I'm not spoiling your article Vala keep (talk) 07:12, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Vala keep, Hi. I undid your edits because you removed the heading, and it wasn't correct. ❯❯❯ S A H A 12:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I am edit statistics please permission

I am edit statistics please permission Vala keep (talk) 13:05, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Vala keep, no need to take permission, you are free to edit, but you should keep the guidlines in mind. Verify your data always, and put citations. ❯❯❯ S A H A 17:00, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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