User talk:Alyssa.long926

Your submission at Articles for creation: Redfinger Cloud Phone (December 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Redfinger Cloud Phone and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Alyssa.long926! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

December 2024

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Alyssa.long926 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I'm so sorry for the mistakes I made; this was my first time editing on wiki. All I wanted to do was contribute and share my favorite software.

Decline reason:

Please follow the directions at User talk:Redfinger Cloud Phone if you wish to be unblocked. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 04:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Alyssa.long926 (talk) 01:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Alyssa.long926 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

This is my first time editing on Wikipedia. I'm sorry that I used too subjective words. I will correct it in time and be more objective in editing.

Accept reason:

{{subst:Accepted per discussion below.}} DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Can I just check something? You were told to go back to your other account, Redfinger Cloud Phone, to appeal your block. Are you saying that is not your account? If so, do you nevertheless have some connection with it, such as are you colleagues at work? --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

yes that's my colleague's account. Alyssa.long926 (talk) 09:43, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I see. Your colleague got blocked, and asked you to create the article instead. That can be regarded as a type of block evasion.

You are also both violating our terms and conditions of use as undisclosed paid editors (WP:UPE).

You should make sure to address both these points in your unblock request. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:52, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, what should I do to solve this problem? Alyssa.long926 (talk) 09:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Please confirm that you have read and understood WP:PAID, and that you subsequently agree to

1. Make a paid-editing disclosure, by placing the {{paid}} template appropriately filled-in on your user page User:Alyssa.long926 as soon as you are unblocked; and
2. Not to edit directly in the main encyclopaedia any articles in which you have a paid-editing conflict-of-interest (COI), but instead to make edit requests via the article talk page (which is most easily done using the wizard at WP:ERW).

I will also post in a separate thread below advice on how to create an article draft (on just about any subject, but especially one in which you have a COI such as your employer). I recommend that you read, understand and follow that advice. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

What do you think, @Jimfbleak and Jpgordon:? It seems we have a meat rather than sock situation here, and this account also predates Redfinger Cloud Phone's block by several months so clearly wasn't registered for socking. There's no user name violation (and also no need to necessarily rename this, although that has been requested). As long as the user undertakes to make a prompt paid-editing disclosure and comply with the related terms, I'd be prepared to unblock. (User:Redfinger Cloud Phone should remain blocked, obvs.) Thoughts? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

DoubleGrazing as long as the editor understands the importance of correct paid-editing disclosure, and understands what is appropriate in an encyclopaedia article, I have no objections Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem, as long as everything else in the usual unblock-spamun is provided. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 16:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, both. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you ! I promise that I will read WP:PAID carefully and abide by the relevant terms and conditions. Alyssa.long926 (talk) 03:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay, on that basis I have unblocked you. Welcome back! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

You don't need to change your user name as it does not violate our rules, but if you wish to do that, you can go to WP:CHU. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Drafting advice

Assuming you agree to comply with our paid-editing rules and can be unblocked, this is FYI how Wikipedia articles should be written:

1. You need to find sources that meet the WP:GNG notability guideline, namely: multiple (= 3+) secondary sources that are both reliable and independent (of the subject, and of each other), and that have provided significant coverage directly of the subject. Note that in the case of businesses this excludes all sponsored and churnalism-type content, press releases and anything based on them, routine business reporting (financial results, opening of new markets or locations, product launches, partnership announcements, appointments, M&A, etc.), as well as interviews and anything where someone from the business is commenting on things.
2. You summarise, in your own words (no copypasting!) but without putting any additional 'spin' or embellishment on things, what these sources have said about the subject, and weave this into a coherent description.
3. You can supplement this with information from primary sources such as the subject's own website or official records, but this must be kept to a minimum, and must be purely factual and non-contentious, such as location information, year of establishment, etc.
4. You then cite each source against the information it has provided.

This gives you appropriate content, the necessary references, and the required proof of notability all at once. This is just about the only method that will produce acceptable results. Following this model is important for any subject, but especially so for subjects in which you have a COI, and/or subjects which are prone to promotional editing.

Remember:

• Your job is to describe your business, not to 'sell' it or make it look good.
• We are not interested in what you or your employer want to tell the world about your business. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a marketing channel for you.
• We also have zero interest in excessive product features or operational details; interested users will no doubt be able to find that on your website or marketing collateral, which is the right place for them.
• Likewise we have very low tolerance for corporate jargon like vision/mission/values, or peacock words like "leading", "innovative", "cutting-edge", etc. (If you do use any such adjectives, they must be direct quotations from independent sources, not your words.)

This is a big task, make no mistake about it. And it is made all the more difficult by the fact that you and your boss will inevitably be tempted to present your business in a good light. You must resist that temptation.

You should also read, and make your boss read, WP:BOSS.

Hope this helps. Good luck! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Redfinger cloud phone (December 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Redfinger cloud phone and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

It's disappointing to see that you didn't follow any of the advice I provided above; in fact, you did pretty much the exact opposite of that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I really checked it again and again, although I think it is objective, I'm not sure where I didn't do it, I'm really sorry Alyssa.long926 (talk) 10:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

You've now changed the sources, but kept the draft content the same, thus proving that the content doesn't come from the sources, but is instead what your business wants to tell the world about itself. This is the polar opposite of what I said you should do.

This is where I bow out, since I'm evidently wasting my time. You're paid to edit this, I'm not, so I will just leave you to get on with it as you see fit. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Redfinger cloud phone (December 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Jlwoodwa were: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Redfinger cloud phone and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

jlwoodwa (talk) 20:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)