User talk:Adi skidos

July 2018

A Wikipedia talk page is for messages and discussions about work for the encyclopaedia: it is not a place to post content unrelated to work for Wikipedia.
Editing for the purpose of promoting, publicising, or advertising anything is not permitted by Wikipedia policy. Both of the pages you have created have been written in terms which promote a business and its product.
If you are connected to someone or something you have written about (a few examples are writing about yourself, your business, your band, a member of your family, your client) then you should be aware that Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline discourages you from writing about that subject. The main reason for that is that experience over the years indicates that editors with such a connection to a subject they are writing about are likely to find it very difficult, or even impossible, to stand back from their writing and see how it will look from the detached perspective of an outsider, so that they are likely to write in ways that look promotional to others, even if they sincerely think they are writing in a neutral way. Also, if your editing forms all or part of work for which you are paid, whether as an employee, as a contractor, or in any other capacity, the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use require you to state who is paying you, and what your connection to them is. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: SKIDOS (July 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RoySmith was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please see WP:INCITE for how to use in-line citations. In short, don't just lump all the references at the end; attach each one to the appropriate sentence in the article to which it refers.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:SKIDOS and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:SKIDOS, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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-- RoySmith (talk) 14:08, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Adi skidos! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! -- RoySmith (talk) 14:08, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:15, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

January 2019

Normally I answer a message on the page on which it is posted, to prevent discussions from becoming fragmented. On this occasion, however, i think it may be helpful for what I say to be on your talk page, for future reference, so I am copying your message from my talk page, and answering it here. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk)

Hello James,

I had created a page with the name of SKIDOS on 30th July, which got deleted by you. I would request you to guide me further as i would like to recreate another page for this topic. I have got only 1 recommendation: To link the reference link with the same content. Can I recreate the page with the mentioned changes?

I am waiting for your guidance

Thanks

--Adi skidos (talk) 07:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure exactly what you mean, but if what you have in mind is re-posting the same content as before but with an added reference, then that would not address the reasons for deletion, which I outlined above. The content would still be promotional, no matter how many references you added to it, and the conflict of interest issue would still apply just as much. In fact if, as seems to be the case from what you say, you have not grasped the point that what yo posted was unambiguously promotional, then the conflict of interest issue probably applies even more. One of the main reasons for the existence of Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline is that an editor with a personal stake in what he or she is writing about very often cannot stand back from his or her writing, and see how it will look from the detached viewpoint of an uninvolved observer; the result of that is that sch an editor often writes text which reads as blatantly promotional to others, even if he or she genuinely thinks that he or she is writing objectively and neutrally.

If you are thinking of writing about your business on Wikipedia again, then there are some things you need to be aware of. Unfortunately Wikipedia has, in my opinion, far too many policies and guidelines, and most of them are far longer and more complex than I think they should be, making it confusing and intimidating for new editors trying to find their way around, but a fairly useful summary of some of the relevant issues is at Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. That page also gives links to various other pages, the most relevant in your case probably being the conflict of interest guideline (any editing you do needs to comply with that guideline), the general notability guideline, and the guideline on notability of organisations and companies.

One final comment. I have searched for information about your business, and what I have seen gives me the clear impression that it does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability standards. If it doesn't, then any article about it, no matter how well written, is likely to be deleted. Saying that may seem unfriendly, but in I think letting you know that is the case is actually likely to be more helpful and friendly than encouraging you to put in a lot of work which is almost certain to be wasted. My advice, therefore, is that you would be much better off putting your efforts into trying to publicise your business somewhere where your work is likely to survive, rather than on Wikipedia. If you read the notability guidelines and decide you disagree with my assessment, then you are free to try creating a new draft, but make sure that it does not read as promotional, and make sure you follow the conflict of interest guideline. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]