Template:Did you know nominations/Lyon Armenian Genocide Memorial

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The result was: promoted by Ashwin147 (talk) 16:20, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Lyon Armenian Genocide Memorial

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... that the Lyon Armenian Genocide Memorial had been vandalized twice?

Reviewed: Tropical cyclone effects in Europe

Created by Yerevanci (talk). Self nominated at 03:41, 23 June 2013 (UTC).

The article states that protests were held "as part of the repeated Armenian genocide denial", but the sources make no mention of genocide denial, "repeated" or otherwise. Also, you can't say "the Turkish community of France" protested the memorial as if the entire community protested it. Gatoclass (talk) 15:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Didn't you know that the Turkish government and perhaps most Turks worldwide deny the Armenian Genocide? The protest of March 18, 2006 was, in fact, an act of denial from the Turkish side, see the sources. It was indeed the Turkish community of France, because the Le Figaro article states that the Mayor of Lyon received thousands of letters from Turks around France. ("Le maire a également reçu des milliers de lettres de protestation de Turcs venues de toute la France.") --Երևանցի ^talk 18:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

The mayor received "thousands" of letters? You do realize that the Turkish community in France is between half a million and a million strong? You can't possibly malign the entire Turkish community of France with allegations of "genocide denial" like that. And you can't make WP:OR claims about "genocide denial" either. You need to rewrite elements of this article in a more appropriately NPOV manner, and stick closer to what your sources actually say, not extrapolate from them to make gross generalizations. For example, I think at least one of your sources mentions that the protests represented "extreme right" elements of the Turkish community, that is the sort of context and detail the article is missing. Gatoclass (talk) 09:47, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

"You do realize that the Turkish community in France is between half a million and a million strong?" LOL Do you expect those 0.5 million to send the Lyon Mayor letters? Anyway, I've already reworded that sentence, take a look at it again, please. --Երևանցի ^talk 16:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

That looks better, although "many" still looks rather imprecise. I will take a closer look at this article tomorrow. Gatoclass (talk) 16:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

The word was removed by another user. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

~~This DYK nomination needs a reviewer. Երևանցի ^talk 20:58, 29 June 2013 (UTC)~~

No it doesn't, I haven't abandoned the review, I just haven't had the time to return to it yet. I'll get back to it shortly. Gatoclass (talk) 21:16, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I thought you did, my mistake then. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, the article looks better now. Gatoclass (talk) 09:46, 1 July 2013 (UTC)