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Change anthem please.

It is still showing the old anthem. Please change it as soon as possible.

Best Regards 2A02:B98:4731:2AD0:DDEC:4948:5FEB:1098 (talk) 08:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Abo Yemen ✉ 09:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The anthem has changed, because the syrian national team played against yemen in a friendly and played the new national anthem:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE2kDTFs40i/?igsh=MWt1OTZmd3MyM3lpeg== Invisious (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute on "Suriyā" and "Suriyah": Should we use both or just Suriyah?

Pinging @Quetstar because they claim that there is no usage of "Suriyā".

Both Suriyā and Suriyah are used in official names, including the arabs. Honestly, the arabs use "Suriyā" rather than "Suriyah". Rather than solving editing disputes, like I am doing right here, they have reverted my edit and have claimed that that name is nonexistent and surprisingly did not remove the second variant of "Syria". "اَلْجُمْهُورِيَّةُ ٱلْعَرَبِيَّةُ ٱلْسُوْرِيَّة" is the country's official name in arabic with "Suriyah", and "اَلْجُمْهُورِيَّةُ ٱلْعَرَبِيَّةُ ٱلْسُورِيَا" is the official name of the country, but with "Suriyā". If you check the arabic version of the syrian article it def and clearly has usage of "Suriyā". If you want evidence that Suriyā is used, click [4].

[1] So should both be used or just Suriyah be used? Let's reach a consensus. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:31, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While i know they are two ways to write the word "Syria" in Arabic, there is only one official way to write the country's official name, the Syrian Arab Republic, and that's the one with "Suriyyah". Normally, Wikipedia writes the official name exactly how a country's government does. The Syrian govt only uses "Suriyyah" when writing the country's official name, so the variant with "Suriyā" is incorrect. Quetstar (talk) 00:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pktlaurence had the same problem as you. They claimed the same thing, no usage of "Suriyā". Besides if it were to be wrong how come it wasnt reverted till now? 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:56, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because no one dared to check if it was correct. Also, there is no need for consensus, since the rule is to write the official name of a country the way its government does. I will also re-state that while they are two correct ways to write "Syria" in Arabic, there's only one correct way to write its official name in that language. Quetstar (talk) 01:02, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a need of consensus, as this is pretty controversial. Also the government has indeed used Suriyā, but they rarely use it. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 01:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no controversy here. What i did was to correct the writing of the official name to the one that the government uses, that being "اَلْجُمْهُورِيَّةُ ٱلْعَرَبِيَّةُ ٱلْسُوْرِيَّة". I left everything else intact, including the two correct ways of writing "Syria" in Arabic. Per WP:BURDEN, the burden to demonstrate otherwise is on you due to your restoration of the incorrect variant. It is not on the community to decide or prove it. Quetstar (talk) 02:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are kinda correct and incorrect here, as I didnt say that you removed "Suriya", and also I am sorry for not providing a source, Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that you're quite correct here.... (Im not correct either on the suriya issue)

If you go to the syrian govt website, (click the link that says [5]).

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you'll see that the Official english name for syria is the "Syrian Arabic Rebublic". But in wikipedia we use "Syrian Arab Republic", which is incorrect but we only use it because the syrian govt misspelled it. This shows evidence that we don't always use 100% official names.

And yes, there is controversy here. Pretty much every edit here is controversial. Edits to this article are contentious/controversial because:

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Has 1RR in effect, which is why i haven't reverted my edit yet.

I did not expect a reply because you did not respond for over an hour, and since you technically started this, please Drop the stick. It's not the end of the world, and let this debate die a natural death. Because of this, I will no longer reply to this topic. Thank you. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 03:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since i also think that this a distraction from other things, I will no longer reply to this either. Quetstar (talk) 03:51, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

anyway lets let the community decide. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:58, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 January 2025

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I am requesting for the term "de facto"(in Italics, as depicted) to be inserted below the title of the national anthem("Guardians of the Homeland") in its respective Infobox because the Constitution of Syria has been suspended since 12 December 2024^[1] and it is currently unknown if the current anthem will be retained in a new constitution (de jure) or if a new one will be used instead. ~Berilo Linea~ (talk) 12:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: that's WP:OR (the source that you cited doesn't say anything about the anthem). M.Bitton (talk) 12:37, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I intentionally only used the citation of the news article mentioning the suspension of the Constitution and the People's Assembly for verifiability purposes about the two aforementioned subjects. Indeed, the article didn't mention the national anthem. I apologise if that wasn't clear. I feel my point still stands, though. ~Berilo Linea~ (talk) 15:36, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't change the fact that what you're proposing is original research. M.Bitton (talk) 19:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

National Anthem

did the national anthem change? Invisious (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox placement

Why is the infobox placed at the very too unlike other pages where it is below a paragraph? GucciNuzayer (talk) 20:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happening on the Lebanon and Israel pages too. I've asked at WP:VPT. CMD (talk) 02:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 28 January 2025 New coat of arms

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Description of suggested change: The current coat of arms shown in the syrian wikipedia seems to be wrong, currently the new government uses a different but similar coat of flag seen below.

Syria ministry of education with the new coat of arms
What it should be

Srouces: sana.sy, syrian government websites

Not done: Please sign a signature with four tildes. I'm also very confused as you said that the hawk on the left needs to flipped right, but when I went to the source it shows a left head. You may request again on a new section once everything is settled. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 03:47, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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46.213.149.23 (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC) please change the anthem to Fi sabil al-Majd in arabic. في سبيل المجد because the anthem changed after The Fall of Assad regime on 8, December, 2024. And thank you.[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aintabli (talk) 22:03, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE2kDTFs40i/?igsh=MWt1OTZmd3MyM3lpeg== Invisious (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

The flag isn't de facto anymore, it's seen at every meeting, conference etc., used everywhere and official. Should say de jure Viceskeeni2 (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree until a constitution is made - There is no active constitution in syria. It's de facto because it's not law but is used regardless if it is or not. If it were to be just de jure it wouldn't be used but it would be law. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 19:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We don't need a constitution, but so far the only source we have on official status is the DAANES government. CMD (talk) 03:11, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 03:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

population estimate

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Update population estimate for 2025 in the country infobox. UN estimate is more than 25 million. source: https://population.un.org/dataportal/ Hasancelikbilek35 (talk) 19:56, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Description of suggested change: This page says 74% Sunni, 13% Shia, but http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Religion_in_Syria says 79% Sunni, 14% Shia -- which one is correct?

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Xapie128 (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Syria's new govt says to suspend constitution, parliament for three months". Al Arabiya English. Al Arabiya. 12 December 2024. Retrieved 12 January 2025.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[1] "Syria's new govt says to suspend constitution, parliament for three months". Al Arabiya English. Al Arabiya. 12 December 2024. Retrieved 12 January 2025.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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