Talk:Russo-Turkish War (1735–1739)

Too much propaganda. This article has to be rewritten. (unsigned by anon)

Please be more specific, or just go ahead and rewrite it. -Irpen 06:30, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

One can but agree with anon. Let me be more specific about the propaganda!! This article has been joined with the article on the 1735-1739 Austria-Ottoman Wars and totally ignores the Austrian advances and then a series of defeats, just giving in a single sentence on a series of disastrous defeats. The defeats of the Austrian armies at Bucharest, Battle of Banja Luka (August 1737) and further at Battle of Grocka (July 1739) and the retaking by Ottomans of Belgrade after a siege are totally missed.Noyder (talk) 18:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

IP 85.103.29.87's opinion of "Ottoman victory"

I would like to see the source(s) for this "Ottoman victory" that the IP 85.103.29.87 has edit-warred into the article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:02, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Sources failing WP:V

@Patrockk:
Three journal articles used as sources do not appear in the journals listed.

As seen here. There is no article by Aksan, Virginia H. "The Ottoman Empire and the Russian Frontier, 1739-1742." The International History Review 11, no. 3 (1989): 481-502. Instead:

• Women Shipyard Workers in the Second World War: A Note (pp. 478-485)
• Deborah Scott Hirshfield
• https://www.jstor.org/stable/40106045

As seen here or here There is no article by Fisher, Alan W. "The Russo-Turkish War of 1735-1739 " The Slavonic and East European Review 37, no. 90 (1959): 321-339. Instead:

• The Concept of the Poet in Pasternak (pp. 325-335)
• Victor Erlich
• https://www.jstor.org/stable/4205060

As seen here there is no article by Kafadar, Cemal. "The Ottoman Empire in the Eighteenth Century: Tradition and Change in a Muslim Society." The Journal of Asian Studies 41, no. 3 (1982): 561-583. Instead:

• Early Southeast Asia: Old Wine in New Skins?--A Review Article (pp. 559-570)
• Early Southeast Asia: Essays in Archaeology, History and Historical Geography. by R. B. Smith, W. Watson
• Review by: Karl L. Hutterer
• https://doi.org/10.2307/2055253
• https://www.jstor.org/stable/2055253

These sources;

• Ortaylı, İlber. The Ottoman Empire and the World Around It.
• Davies, Norman. Europe: A History.
• The Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire, 1710-1922, by Alexander Shlyapnikov.
• The Russo-Turkish Wars of the Eighteenth Century, by Richard B. Spence.
• The Romanovs: 1613-1918, by Simon Sebag Montefiore.
  

contain no page numbers therefore fail WP:V.

A clarification of said journal articles, page numbers for the books and quotes from all these sources will resolve this issue.--Kansas Bear (talk) 02:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Infobox results

I amended the infobox per Template:Infobox_military_conflict#Parameters, which states results need to be either x victory or inconclusive. If the results do not fit into those parameters, the article should instead link to the aftermath in the text body. Annwfwn (talk) 12:22, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Azov is demolished

According to the second Belgrade agreement signed between Sultan Mahmud I and Russian Empress Anna: The Azak Castle will be demolished and that region will be left vacant between the two states (Article 3). The old Turkish text of the agreement containing Article 3:Azak kal‘ası bi’l-külliye hedm olunub tarafeynden murad olunan sulh müebbeden nizam ü takrir içün bin yediyüz yağni on üç tarihinde olan hudud ile tarafeynin tasarrufundan ihrac ve haliyetü’l-haliya beyne’d-devleteyn fasıla kala ve bunun mukabili kadimden Moskov devleti’nin hududı olup Ton suyunda olan Çerkaski adası kurbundaki Azak semtinde olan mahallindir ve müceddeden bir kala binası caiz oldukları devlet-i aliyyem tarafından dahi Kuban hududunun Azak semtinde olan mahallinde müceddeden kala binası caiz ola ve işbu kal‘aların bina olunacak münasip mahalleri ta‘yini tarafeynden ta‘yin olunan muhadditler adl ü insafına havale oluna ve mukaddema hedm olunan Taygan kalası dahi bina olunmaya ve Moskov Devleti tarafından Azak denizinde ve Karadeniz’de sefayin ve cenk gemileri ihdas ve icra olunmaya” According to The London Gazette, Issue 7845, Page 1 and Issue 8085, Page 1:Azov is demolished

Asafviki (talk) 18:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Objection

Hello, thank you for your understanding about the Azak Fortress, but I have to object to some of your statements. First of all, you say that the Erhan source is correct and I agree with that and I know that this source was there before and I did not add it. But this source (as you also said it was correct) said that the Azak Fortress was destroyed and I added some sources to support this source. Your criticism of me is that the sources I added are primary sources, but I added these sources to support the already existing secondary source. As for the Zaparozhye part, I will say the following:The Zaporozhian region officially came under Russian protection with the Pereyaslav Agreement in 1654. This status was solidified by the Treaty of Andrusovo in 1667 and the Eternal Peace Treaty of 1686. Therefore, prior to and during the 1735-1739 war, Zaporozhye was officially under Russian control. Asafviki (talk) 09:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation but don't add these sources again because as I said they are not WP:RS and also I saw what you said cross, this is not Turkish Wikipedia. Turkish Wikipedia has many problems in terms of sources and losses and we shouldn't add the same things from Turkish Wikipedia here anyway thanks for your explanation happy editing. Kajmer05 (talk) 13:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)