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October 4, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 21, 2011.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the taboo offering of a cloth stained with menstrual blood to the Hindu goddess Matangi (pictured) is thought to grant the ability to attract a mate?

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text taken from http://www.exoticindiaart.com/product/DF04/ with assertion of release but no proof. -- Whpq 12:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lemurbaby (talk · contribs) 19:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Redtygerz, I'll be reviewing your article in the next few days. It looks like another great one. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it reasonably well written?
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B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
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Comments

Please fix the disambiguation link for Kadamba. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prose issues:

"Her worship is described to acquire supernatural powers" - Unclear, please rephrase. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"She represents the 64 arts" - is there an article to explain this further? Either explain and link, or redlink. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linked. Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"She is also described to love the parrot and as the nectar of song" - not grammatically correct and unclear. Please revise. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"A similar list in the Guhyatiguhya-Tantra" - no list is referenced prior. What list are you referring to? The first paragraph in this section is a little confusing to me (why is the scholar Sircar important here, for example?) and could benefit from a fuller explanation. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mundamala is the first list that compares Vishnu's 10 avatars with the 10 Mahavidyas. The Guhyatiguhya-Tantra does the same thing. But the Guhyatiguhya-Tantra does not mention explicitly mention Matangi in the list, and replaces her with Durga who is equated to the Vishnu avatar Kalki. It is the scholar's opinion that Durga here refers to Matangi. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is Mundamala only the list, or is the list contained in the Mundamala along with other non-list prose etc? Lemurbaby (talk) 07:45, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Mundamala is a text which has the list of Mahavidyas. The list of Mahavidyas and corresponding Vishnu avatars are embedded in a verse. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Raja-Matangi playing a veena and with a parrot" is this the actual title of the painting? if so, use italics. if not, please rephrase due to grammar issues

Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"She represents the word of a guru as a spiritual guide." - unclear, please rephrase. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:10, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Her yantra is used in worship" - briefly clarify what a yantra is in this sentence in the article Lemurbaby (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[1] defines it as "a geometric diagram used in meditation and tantric worship; also, any object used in this way", but it much more than that, but wikpedia article about yantra is no help IMO to explain the concept. The Yantra may be a 2D geometrical diagram (see img in article) or may be a 3D geometrical structure (File:Meru1.jpg). It is interpreted by some as an aniconic representation of the deity or just as an "instrument" (as it literally means) to mediate on or reach the deity. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of cursory explanation, I added "sacred geometric diagram" (especially since that's what's illustrated in the article with your inserted image), and then people who want to know more can follow the link to learn about the 3D type and all the complexities of the concept. Lemurbaby (talk) 07:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Once you get back to me with the clarification on the Mundamala issue, we can make the appropriate clarification in the text and get this passed. Great work as always! I'm so glad you're dedicated to improving the quality of these Hinduism articles. Remind me - are you a professor of theology? Lemurbaby (talk) 07:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am neither a professor nor a formal student of theology, but I am just interested in Hindu mythology. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well I truly appreciate your passion and effort to bring this knowledge to a wider audience. Thank you and well done! Lemurbaby (talk) 16:18, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Matangi

This is regarding the information about Goddess Matangi, as she has been declared as Prime Minister here. She's actually the Treasury Minister. Other incarnation of her are Goddess Mahalakshmi and Goddess Meenakshi. Please refer to the two benchmarks available: Devi Mahatmya (Devi Mahapuran) and Dus Mahavidya for further details. If needed you can contact me at pkumar77@gmail.com regards, Praveen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.92.114 (talk) 18:34, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Add a through link to Matangi (album) at the top

The album is released tomorrow, already 1000+ daily hits in the last couple days. I'll add it if no one does, I'd be bold, but it may get deleted :/ Baseballfan (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Matangi is an aspect of ... ?

Can one of the many IP editors constantly changing this please give a source? Otherwise, let's just eliminate the entire sentence instead of playing a weird goddess-swapping game. IAmNitpicking (talk) 12:49, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I repeat: could at least one of you please give a source for any such assertions, instead of constantly editing the article to reflect your opinion? Saying "There is no support" is original research and not constructive. IAmNitpicking (talk) 13:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source

David Frawley as a source in a GA? TrangaBellam (talk) 20:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

outcast (false associations)

Its origins have been distorted; outcasts were simply persons who work on burial grounds. Undertaker (chandalini) (according to Dr. Vineet) Stjohn1970 (talk) 16:18, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]