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please Retweet Victuallers (talk) 22:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

moving questioned text here

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The director of the Moringen concentration camp, Ursula Gerecht, reported in her presentation Marta Wolter and "Kuhle Wampe" - The story of a woman and the story of a film: "Marta Husemann wrote in her prison diary: The director of the Moringen concentration camp, Ursula Gerecht, reported in her presentation Marta Wolter and "Kuhle Wampe" - The story of a woman and the story of a film: "Marta Husemann wrote in her prison diary: ..., the whole department 5 is full of our women. There are a lot, ... '; about Libertas Schulze-Boysen wrote: someone who never in the illegal work should have been inaugurated. No conscious traitor. But easy to get through their boundless vanity to speak'."..., the whole department 5 is full of our women. There are a lot, ... '; about Libertas Schulze-Boysen wrote: someone who never in the illegal work should have been inaugurated. No conscious traitor. But easy to get through their boundless vanity to speak'."

that doesn't make sense - if that is who Gerecht is how do we know this? Seems more likely than she is writing about a film about Huseman. Needs verification Elinruby (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actor or actress?

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@Scope creep: hi. Please research first and revert after. I did a completely random search and here is what I found right away:

BBC Learning English Weekender: Actor or actress?

So it was a 70's-80's affectation by the emancipation movement, which had little effect on how we speak and write, as it contradicts logic, common sense, and any sense for meaning and accuracy in English language.

I checked randomly leads (intros) on Wiki, and just the BBC-mentioned Helen Mirren, who was mentioned there in the context of emancipation in the UK, is defined as an "actor" - and NOBODY ELSE: just look up Meryl Streep, Sarah Bernhardt, Julie Andrews, Audrey Hepburn, Helena Bonham Carter, Sophia Loren, ...

Or go to any of Marta Husemann's more-or-less contemporaries from Nazi Germany, have your pick, I checked a full dozen: all are defined as actRESSES.

I'm trying to stay calm & polite, but you're making it very hard, as this requires a degree of respect for the other side's work and arguments. Please leave me out of any of it, I'm de-selecting the articles you're obviously most jealously "patrolling" as your own and bulk-reverting even at the price of bringing back in the most obvious mistakes and arguing over anything and everything. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 19:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Arminden: How goes it? You came up with a document that was from 2005. In terms of history its less than 20 years ago but the changes in the west during time is unbelievable with the coming of internet culture. It might as well from another age, and many ways it is. It is nothing to do with how people spoke in the 1970's And the fact that other articles use that term on Wikipedia doens't mean it is the correct term either. If you want to find how actors speak about themselves, then please take a look at theatre associations sites, theatre newspapers and the like. And not just this term that has changed. The world has moved ones. Terms like manageress, poetess, comedienne, authoress, lady doctor', 'male nurse; where the words are gendered are no longer used by younger generations. New Media don't use these terms, while old media, if they have been using term before, still tends to use them as that is their audience expects, but they are dying out. I wrote this article, i'm not jealously patrolling it. That is an article that is in British English. I use the terms that is currently predominant to try and give the article a bit of longegivity. I suspect in a 10-20 years time, language will be completly transformed. I don't plan to revert since your so keen change back to an older style of writing. scope_creepTalk 21:32, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]