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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Lion

There is controversy regarding whether or not lions in Egypt were Barbary lions, considering that Egypt has part of the Nubian region with Sudan, and Sudanese lions aren't Barbary lions, but definitely an African lion, and the topics are linked. Leo1pard (talk) 02:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BhagyaMani Please don't try it again, you've seen what happens when you try to bully others around, like what you did recently even though I wanted to talk to you. Leo1pard (talk) 07:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BhagyaMani I have reasons to do what I do, and I have invited you to talk to me in case you wanted anything. I'm not tolerating this disrespectful behaviour. Don't continue. Leo1pard (talk) 07:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BhagyaMani I am trying to talk to you. Please be respectful and talk to me. Leo1pard (talk) 07:53, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the link, it should just be to lion. No-one knows if the lion was local or from another part of the empire or whatever. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree, which is why I changed it. And also because that page has been collated by a large community of editors and is a featured article. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:36, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying at last. That's what I wanted, that we can talk. Leo1pard (talk) 18:13, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tomb description

ːLeo1pard I am not very happy with the last changes. You deleted my description of the tomb decoration. I was especially borrowing the tomb publication for that. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 11:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Udimu: I think it worthwhile to keep the description, unless of course it has been copy-pasted from a website, thereby constitung a copy-violation. Therefore, I had earlier tagged it with a citation needed template. Can you provide a reference for description? This would probably be a reference to a publication by the people who excavated it, like Zivie et al. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 12:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ːBhagyaMani: I had the Zivie full report here when I started the article, so I was not happy to see those data deleted. I do no longer have the book here, but will check next time in the library for exact page numbers. There was also a little bit confusion in an earlier version between the first and second level; they were described twice (once for the tomb decoration and once for the lion). For somebody not knowing the tomb it must have been quite confusing. Can you perhaps also checkː The second lower level of the tomb was dedicted to Tutankhamun's sister Meritaten.[3]? I cant find a reference to Meritaten in the article (it is online). Now, Zivie thinks Maia and Meritaton are the same people (I gave a reference with page numbers, that was also deleted), so I am wondering whether the reference to Meritaton is also a simple confusion. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 12:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Udimu and ‎Sphilbrick: I don't know when this unreferenced section was added. But in Dec 2015, this article was published in a newspaper with the same text: https://www.almaghribtoday.net/en/69/minister-to-inaugurate-maias-tomb-sunday I suppose this page's history will reveal whether or not this passage constitutes a copy-vio. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:21, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BhagyaMani, It's all taken care of. S Philbrick (Talk) 15:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then I think, this article should at least be referenced, and the passage be rewritten somewhat. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:25, 14 October 2018 (UTC) ːI will provide references, i just do not have the book here in the very moment. In archaeology, most excavation reporst are NOT online. --Udimu (talk) 15:45, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you read French? I found an article by Zivie (1998), in which he describes the tomb. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ːyes, i read French. I cited the final report on the tomb decoration (the lion is not the subject of the book). It is rather weird to see that secondary articles are given more weight over the main publications. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now that a reference has been provided, I have no intention of deleting that passage. Leo1pard (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ː many thanks. -- Udimu (talk) 16:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BhagyaMani It would be good if you also provide page numbers. On the published plan, I do not see any evidence for the four pillars at the front (https://www.persee.fr/doc/crai_0065-0536_1998_num_142_1_15830 Fig. 5). best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 16:29, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zivie mentions the pillars in the text, but without image. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 16:55, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ːːː In the moment the information are somehow double, basically you give the same information again (Tutankhamun sitting on lap). Would be better integrate your stuff in the existing text. best wishes --

Will continue to work on that. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:38, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig's Copyvio Detector found several sentences that are identical with ones published online by a newspaper and several other online sources. I will therefore delete these sentences to reduce the probability of copy-violation. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 07:51, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ːː BhagyaMani That was discussed yesterday. The copyright violation is from the side of the newspaper and not from my side. I am getting a little bit upset for taking time and energy writing the article and using the research publication and then getting accused for the violation of copyright. Evidently the reporter of the newspaper was copying from the Wiki article. I started the article in 2010. The newspaper article is from 2015. Please go to a library on borrow the bookǃ best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 15:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did not accuse YOU personally of violating copyright. Would it be soo difficult to reformulate those sentences, so that they differ from content of websites and newspapers? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ː Hey, but why reformulating the sentence? The newspaper in 2015 was stealing from Wiki and now the writers from Wiki have to adjust? That is simply not fairǃ best wishes --Udimu (talk) 15:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Udimu: somebody else must have added this sentence about the style of reliefs, which I merely edited. And thought it a odd. Thanks for deleting it. BhagyaMani (talk) 14:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ːːthe sentence was weird as the name of Tutankhamun appears in the tomb, so the dating is without any doubts. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 19:55, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lion

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