Talk:Eva Mozes Kor

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because...

This criterion applies only in unequivocal cases, where there is no free-content material on the page worth saving

Although the article largely draws from the CANDLE's website article, it is not an exact copy, evidence that users have read this original text and either added or subtracted to it to make it more encyclopaedic. I also note there is a reference section of 20 references, where only two link to the CANDLES website, which indicates the articles body has been supplemented by information from other sources. There is extra free content in the article that is not featured on the CANDLE article, such as the "Works" section.

Per WP:G12, one could argue the biography of notable holocaust survivor would be public domain. The article's history is not "unsalvageably corrupted" and could be rectified by a much-needed copy edit.

Admittedly it's been a long while since I edited wikipedia, but back in my day speedy deletions where only used for articles/stubs that were complete gibberish or not even articles. I can see this article was created back in January 2011 and has had over 100 edits. At the very least this should be sent to 'Articles for deletion' instead --Ryan4314 (talk) 17:46, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

This article has always had the problem about being used by the Candles Museum staff to promote Eva, her books, and their museum. The text right now is copied almost word for word from their website and was added by staff members. I don't think the article should be speedy deleted either, but it almost needs to be gutted and completely re-written. -O.R.^Comms 18:05, 17 January 2016 (UTC

I've cleaned up all plagiarized material. Codyorb (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Copied material

"This article has always had the problem about being used by the Candles Museum staff to promote Eva, her books, and their museum. The text right now is copied almost word for word from their website and was added by staff members." First, there is no proof of this. You are assuming. Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited by anyone with an interest. Second, I would expect that if the CANDLES staff monitors and edits, that would only improve the accuracy of the information, thus insuring credibility. While there is a lot of material on both sites that is similar, this should be expected of a non-fiction piece. You can only write facts, dates and etc. the same way so many times. If non-fiction material is written in an untrue manner, then it would become fiction. I would also state that if materials from the museum website are used, the fact that it is already on a website, for public use, makes it public domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.157.152.54 (talk) 23:36, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

A little bit of a trivia about the above comment. Verified as coming from an ip at the Candles Museum. From what I understand, this Wikipedia article is used for promoting that museum and their agenda. Not sure what to do about this. The material here is good but the motive is not. -O.R.^Comms 04:30, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Since the notice some nine months ago, effort has been made to clear out the blatantly copied material from the Candles website. It is clearly in the edit history of this article, however, that at one point this article contained cut and pasted material. Since its been removed, there will hopefully not be a recurrence. -O.R.^Comms 00:34, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the plagiarized content. I'll watch the page to make sure it doesn't happen again. Codyorb (talk) 01:13, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Conflicting information about birth year

The birth date of January 31 does not appear to be contested, but Eva Mozes Kor herself appears to be unsure of whether she and her sister were born in 1934 or 1935 due to record inconsistencies. Can anyone provide concrete evidence for one year over the other? HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 02:10, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that source says this:

"My sister Miriam and I were born on January 31, 1935, in the village of Portz in Hungary ... Following the war, in order to get a visa, it was necessary for someone to verify our birth date. Our aunt ... believed that we had been born in 1934. That was the date she gave authorities. But, my sister and I both believe that we were nine-years-old when we went to Auschwitz in May, 1944. However, since my aunt told the authorities 1934, we must list our birth date as 1934, not 1935."

Thanks for spotting that. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Medical aspects

Miram cancer maybe caused by medical experiments. Could you expand or document this statement. 2601:181:8301:4510:9113:553D:DA55:3276 (talk) 22:49, 5 July 2019 (UTC)