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Merger discussion

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
To merge the Boot (medicine) and Walking boot to a new joint article at Orthopedic boot, creating a DAB at Walking boot, with other redirect cases as given in the last 3 comments of the discussion. Klbrain (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday, I dropped by the Chicago Public Library to see if they could help me research Boot (medicine), which is stub-class, so I could get some WP:CUP points. The research librarian came upon the Walking boot article, which is start-class. Clearly these need to be merged. Here are the facts: Walking boot was created in User space on 22:29, October 24, 2012‎, moved to WP:AFC space on 01:10, October 25, 2012‎ and moved to main space 03:12, August 10, 2015‎. Boot (medicine) was created by me in main space 03:33, November 25, 2012‎. Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/STEM/Archive_2#Add_Boot_(medicine) was closed at WP:VA5 on 16:34, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Walking boot seems to be getting the pageviews and incoming links for this subject and seems to have the encyclopedic content.

Undoubtedly these subjects should be merged. The questions are 1.) what the merge destination should be and 2.) how the edit histories should be handled. The discussion of this merger probably needs to focus on where the destination of the merge should be. The number of bolded terms in the WP:LEAD of Walking boot suggests that there are numerous possible merge destinations. Here is a summary of the points in favor of the two existing locations. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the original userspace name was "CAM (Controlled Ankle Motion) walking boot", which seems to have been used until it emerged from AFC in 2015.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Boot (medicine):
  1. The main argument is WP:COMMONNAME. If I were to search this subject I would enter the term boot. Then, I would probably realize I need to disambiguate for filtration purposes. I would actually have thought to disambiguate using medical rather than walking. I had never heard the term walking boot before.
  2. WP:MED prefers (medicine) to (medical) or any other disambiguation, according to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles#Titles_requiring_disambiguation
  3. This article appeared in main space before the other article.
  4. This subject is a vital article subject.
  • Walking boot:
  1. Earliest edit on this subject is part of this edit history.
  2. The encyclopedic content of this destination is more substantial
  3. The incoming links are all focussed on this destination
  4. The current page view shows this as primary (probably due to the point above).

It is my belief that both WP:COMMONNAME and Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles#Titles_requiring_disambiguation point to the merger destination of Boot (medicine). Thus, I propose a discussion of Merge to Boot (medicine) as the destination.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all: TonyTheTiger, Guerillero, Colin, Ozzie10aaaa, Iztwoz.

Based on this discussion, I suggest the following:

What do you think? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

agree--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:08, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree but Walker boot ought to be a redirect to the page as there is no other usage of the term, and it would need to be included as there are a number of different types of Walker boot available. And as Colin pointed out Walking boot is already given as an aka of hiking boot. Since a Walking boot may also be used to refer to a Walker boot in the US maybe a mention of "for orthopaedic walking boot see Orthopaedic boot' on Hiking boot page.?Iztwoz (talk) 20:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think such a hatnote on hiking boot would only be necessary if walking boot directed straight to it, which was my original idea but not WAID's. Otherwise, nobody arriving at "hiking boot" is in any way thinking about orthopaedic boots. WAIDs proposal of a dab page means readers are already aware of the two meanings of the word. I do additionally propose that walking boots (plural) be a redirect to hiking boot as you'd need to be very unlucky to need two orthopaedic boots (and I reckon it would be difficult to walk in such a pair of boots too). Otherwise I agree with WAID's proposal and with Iztwoz's suggestion that walker boot redirect to the chosen destination too. -- Colin°Talk 08:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Much as I would have loved to switch to the -ae spelling, I felt that the majority of the text was not in British English, so kept with the other form.   checkY Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 22:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]