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affiliations
WikiProject Chicago WP:CHICAGO
Director
(2006–present)
Four Award WP:FOUR
Director
(2009–2014)
(disputed, 2013–2014)
W Awards WP:WAWARD
Director
(2010–present)
WALRUS committee M:WALRUS
Committee
(2011–2013)
(2016–present)
Online Ambassadors WP:Ambassadors
(2011–2012)
2010 WP:CUP
2nd place
Most WP:DYKs in a round



Tony The Tiger interpretation: Freedom of expression does not exist unless freedom of expression is protected when and where the audience exists.



Recently listed good articles: Law, JudeShield, JoeSuicidal TourSalvation Army Headquarters (Manhattan)Evarcha maculataTranslating The Lord of the RingsMambourg Glass CompanyIga ikkiDomestic rabbitAssault of Ermyas MulugetaNuketownAoraki / Mount Cook National ParkAmen breakBlohm & Voss BV 40"Boom"



The oldest unreviewed good article nominations are: Reggie Barnes (skateboarder) (talk | history | start review) • Exile (American band) (talk | history | start review) • Blackpink (talk | history | start review) • John Rudge (talk | history | start review) • Pure Japanese (talk | history | start review)


Articles currently listed for Good article community reassessment:


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Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup![edit]

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting assist for George Town's peer review[edit]

Hey there and hope the New Year starts well for you.

I've just opened a peer review request for George Town, Penang here: Wikipedia:Peer review/George Town, Penang/archive3, having substantially rewritten the article & improved sourcing with the aim of elevating it to FA. I found your name on the volunteers list & wondering if you're keen to help in its review? Many thanks! hundenvonPG (talk) 01:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have signed up to help with things in Chicago and Buffalo, New York. This is a place that I am not familiar with.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies. I hadn't noticed it. hundenvonPG (talk) 04:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

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DYK for Eustace Tilley[edit]

On 3 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eustace Tilley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2017, Eustace Tilley (pictured) missed his annual turn on the cover of The New Yorker because of Donald Trump? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eustace Tilley. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Eustace Tilley), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hook update
Your hook reached 36,068 views (1,502.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2024 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talkcontribs) (he/it) 03:27, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024


Same location pictured as 2019. - Thanks for this great article and many more! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

Today a friend's birthday, with related music and new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice DYK today![edit]

Thanks for your work on Eustace Tilley! That was a fun read. Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Elle Leonard[edit]

The article Elle Leonard you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Elle Leonard for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of The Blue Rider -- The Blue Rider (talk) 18:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Harald Hasselbach[edit]

On 10 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Harald Hasselbach, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Harald Hasselbach, the only Dutch Super Bowl champion, lived in four continents in his youth? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Harald Hasselbach. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Harald Hasselbach), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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You have a lot of new fans[edit]

Hey Tony, I posted about your Wikipedia work on Twitter/X and a lot of people are saying nice things such as "wiki editors are truly one of the few things keeping my faith in humanity alive atm" and "Genuinely inspiring. Dude has it figured out. What a wonderful way to live". Thought you might want to know! Thanks for all you do here. Annierau (talk) 02:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The appreciation is really cool. Sometimes, I run into some depressing obstacles in the wiki beauracracy. I do a lot of work and don't always get a positive spin with my efforts. This is a pleasant reminder that people use wikipedia and have fun learning about it. There are a lot of cool characters on WP. That has like 13k likes and 1k retweets. You have now surpassed Alexandra Daddario as the person who has gotten me the most engagements on social media. About 10 years ago she retweeted a picture of a bunny that I took because she liked bunnies on social (like some people like cat videos) back then. Last I looked I had like 150 or 200 followers. Now, I am at over 600. Wow. I need you on my PR team. Thank you so much.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Annierau, I am just realizing that your X post has had 409.5K views. Amazing. That is by a mile the most I have ever had.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So glad you appreciate it! I've always found it unfortunate that Wikipedia editors rarely get feedback from the typical readers — people who generally have very nice things to say (unlike the vocal minority of people that fine a way to complain about, well, everything)! I know that people don't edit Wikipedia for fame or glory, but a little bit of encouragement goes a long way :-) Annierau (talk) 00:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Annierau, I was hoping you might be able to do the same thing for me on Instagram, but as I look at https://www.instagram.com/depthsofwikipedia/, I see that you focus on actual wikipedia entries there. Well, I will have to figure out how to get some follower growth over there on my own, unless you have some advice.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When you added the details many years ago, did you have a copy of the NRHP nomination form? I can't seem to find one online. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oop, found it here. Sorry to bug you. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Elle Leonard[edit]

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DYK for Gig economy[edit]

On 26 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gig economy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "gig" in "gig economy" comes from the slang term for individual appearances by performing artists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gig economy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gig economy), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Good article reassessment for World Series of Poker bracelet[edit]

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The Canon of Medicine[edit]

Did you intend to add this to Level 4? I tried to move it myself to Level 5, but I don't have extended confermed rights. --Makkool (talk) 18:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC),[reply]

Barnstars![edit]

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Hello[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Elle Leonard[edit]

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WikiCup 2024 February newsletter[edit]

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

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The Signpost: 13 February 2024[edit]

Some weird errors, and I don't have time to check what happened, but paradiplomacy discussion was deleted and millenium goals is duplicated... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

Vital Barnstar
You deserve this for converting all four subpages to chronological order by yourself. I imagine it was not easy. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Campbell's Soup Cans[edit]

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:04, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TonyTheTiger, thanks for participating in the WikiCup. Unfortunately, Template:Did you know nominations/Campbell's Soup Cans is not eligible for DYK points because it was nominated to DYK as a newly promoted GA. I know this can be disappointing, but Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#Did you know? states that only newly created or expanded DYKs are eligible for DYK points. The rules specifically exclude DYK submissions from receiving points if their appearance on DYK is solely because the article was a newly promoted GA. Epicgenius (talk) 16:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Epicgenius Wow. That severely impacts my CUP strategy and greatly demotivates me from improving a bunch of Princeton and Michigan basketball season articles. I doubt I will be 5x any of them. But, hey, thems the rules.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not a judge, but you could still get points for the GAs themselves if they are within the eligible timeframe. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024 GAN backlog drive[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Big Ten Athlete of the Year[edit]

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WikiCup 2024 March newsletter[edit]

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DYK nomination of Billy Garrett Jr.[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Billy Garrett Jr. at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Olivia Olson (basketball)[edit]

On 4 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Olivia Olson (basketball), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Olivia Olson won state championships as a soccer goalkeeper and a basketball guard? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Olivia Olson (basketball). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Olivia Olson (basketball)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming Chicago TFA and also a pending FAC[edit]

Hi there. Since you're the director for the Chicago WikiProject, just wanted to let you know that Jamie Kalven will be TFA on March 16. Thanks so much for your help on the FAC.

Also, I have another Chicago-related article at FAC: Illinois Public Access Opinion 16-006. You can comment on the FAC here. Thanks again for all the work you do! Edge3 (talk) 05:11, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dave Jamerson[edit]

On 8 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dave Jamerson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dave Jamerson was the first NCAA Division I men's basketball player to make 14 three-point shots in a game? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dave Jamerson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Dave Jamerson), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BLOCKREQUESTS[edit]

Hi Tony. I managed to find the template containing that language you mentioned at AN and wikilinked it. Easier than waiting for the bureaucracy to get around to it. - The literary leader of the age 01:28, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Balph Eubank-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Andrew Dakich[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Andrew Dakich at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Muboshgu (talk) 03:40, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2010–2019 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show models has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --woodensuperman 16:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2000–2009 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show models has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --woodensuperman 16:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:1995–1999 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show models has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --woodensuperman 16:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA nominations[edit]

Hi Tony, I don't believe there's any current formal policy on this, so absolutely feel free to ignore this message. However, as one of the GA backlog drive coordinators, I noticed our numbers were heading backwards this week, and wondered why - and then I saw your recent nominations. You have almost 70 nominations currently active on the GAN page! I wonder if you could hold off on further nominations until the bulk of these have been reviewed, or at least until the end of the GA backlog drive on April 1st. This is just a personal request, not related to any rule or policy - but hope you will consider it. Thanks for your many GA reviews and articles over the years. —Ganesha811 (talk) 18:49, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ganesha811, I am participating in WP:CUP, I have a pretty low success rate at FAC, so I need to wind up dozens of GAs in the queue to have date priority position so that in the rounds where I need a lot of points, I can get lots of GA points. I am willing to stop nominating new articles until April 1 if you can promise that there will be another backlog drive in October.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't promise that, especially since it isn't up to just me. However, I certainly support another GA backlog drive pretty soon after this one, since we have made only moderate progress so far this month. —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:57, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tony, I noticed the same thing as Ganesha did above. Speaking as a regular editor, rather than as a WikiCup judge, I have to say that, unfortunately, some of your most recent GANs have issues that may make them liable to a fail or even a quickfail. Here's a sampling of what I'm talking about:
  • Steven Hoggett - this article has four sections, one of which (Personal life) is a single sentence that is completely unsourced (and is tagged with {{cn}}). The Early Life section is just three sentences, and most of the article is about his career. A reviewer might point out that the article fails GA criteria 3a (broadness) and 2b (sourcing).
  • Pilot and Chapter Two - the production section is just one sentence long, and it lacks any info about background or themes (for comparison, have a look at articles like Faces (Star Trek: Voyager) or Gender Bender (The X-Files)). A reviewer might point out that the article fails GA criterion 3a.
  • A Christmas Story: The Musical - the article lacks citations in several places, and it also lacks info about reception - there are just two reviews, whereas for a Broadway musical you can usually find 4-5 good reviews just about the Broadway run (and, potentially, other reviews about the runs in each of the other cities). A reviewer might point out that the article fails GA criteria 3a and 2b.
  • Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - I just removed your GA nomination for this article because it has at least three maintenance tags and multiple pieces of unsourced information (failing GA criterion 2b). In addition, the history section seems heavily weighted in favor of the agency's first four years, failing criterion 4. There is a standalone controversies section with four very detailed sections about past controversies, but controversy sections are best avoided per WP:CSECTION.
As a WikiCup judge, I should mention that I need to wind up dozens of GAs in the queue to have date priority position so that in the rounds where I need a lot of points, I can get lots of GA points. could be considered gaming the system. If you are submitting subpar GANs so you can gain more points in future rounds, then these articles are liable to be ineligible for points (per Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#General rules: "All reviewed content must have been worked on significantly by you to receive points. ... If this is abused, the judges reserve the right to not award points."). There is no time limit on GANs. The probability of them being reviewed does not increase substantially when you nominate dozens of articles at once, because if you have more than 20 GANs, the additional GANs will be hidden from potential reviewers.
This is surprising given your track record of successful GA nominations. I highly encourage you to take a look at the GACR criteria again, then go through all of the articles you just nominated and see if any of these articles still need work to meet the GA criteria. – Epicgenius (talk) 22:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Epicgenius, I do not intend to abuse the system. I am actually working through a list of several hundred DYKs that I have had since I last entered the CUP in 2010. I am trying to figure out which are within striking distance of GA. I have a spreadsheet with two lists. I am only nominating those on the good list. Some of those may need a bit of work, but for the most part I don't think they are in quickfail range. If so, I should be quickfailing some of the ones I am reviewing. Surely, 90% of the nominees that I have posted would be considered suitable nominees by most reviewers. Further, it is my understanding that the GANs continue to accrue date priority while hidden. As the visible ones get reviewed, I believe the newly revealed one will be in better position to attract reviewers.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for explaining your thought process. If you are nominating old articles for GA, however, I'd suggest looking through them carefully to make sure they don't have obvious issues (like breadth of coverage or maintenance tags). This would help weed out some of the articles with more serious issues, especially as you haven't edited some of them in years; for example, the CFPB page has undergone quite a few changes since you last modified it. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Ganesha811, Epicgenius, and BlueMoonset:, Thanks for checking in. I will try to be more careful with my remaining strategic nominations. Unless, I can count on an October backlog drive, I don't think I should stop nominations. What if there is a September drive. I need to make sure things are nominated in time for a 180 day bonus to kick in with time remaining to review. I apologize for the problems I caused the backlog drive results. I would be willing to allow your to remove all the {{GA nominee}} templates of all hidden nominations until April 1 if that would make the backlog look good. They would have to be restored with the current date priority info on April 1 though.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My main issue is that these mass nominations may be unscrupulous, as seen in the articles I mentioned above. For me, the primary problem is not the backlog number or the fact that you didn't wait until April 1 to nominate the articles. The problem is that, of the articles you nominated, some of them seem to be nowhere near GA status (the CFPB article being one of the clearest examples of this). It's better to ensure that your articles are up to GA standards the first time around, rather than nominating a slate of articles at once and seeing what sticks. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I second this. I've skimmed through all of your nominations, and for what it's worth, I believe that 22 (a third of them) have major issues which could result in a fail or even a QF. I don't doubt that these could get to GA with a good push, but I feel that this many of this quality is too much. I suggest denominating the articles that seem further off from the GAC; it would save you and your reviewers' time! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 15:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most of my GAs are sports, visual arts or Chicago related stuff, so my calibration may be off in other fields, but that number seems a little high.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps, but I'd at least leave it at "major issues". I could give a quick rundown if you'd like, but I hope you understand our sentiment.
And of course, a lot of the articles (especially the basketball bios) look quite alright! Either way, I respect your commitment to all of these noms and wish you good luck with the WikiCup! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 19:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My personal suggestion would be to take it slowly. Like you, Tony, I have a backlog of about 150 GA-ready pages, but I never have substantially more than 20 nominations at any one time, and I try to have a selection of nominations that is a representative slice of everything I do. It makes a big difference. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 01:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Holy hell, I didn't notice this response before. I would be willing to allow your to remove all the templates of all hidden nominations until April 1 if that would make the backlog look good. They would have to be restored with the current date priority info on April 1 though. What entitles you to make these demands? Who do you think you are, Jimbo Wales? – Teratix 16:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i can see you've nominated 6 more articles for GA today, including Mekia Cox, which (from what i can tell) you haven't edited since 2017 and which cites IMDb, and The Firm (2012 TV series), which you haven't edited since 2016 and which cites not only IMDb but also facebook. please slow down with the nominations, and do your due diligence in working on the articles you nominate. thanks, sawyer * he/they * talk 21:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tony, it is absolutely an abuse of other editors time and energy to mass-nominate a bunch of articles – many of which are old and have existing issues – just so you can get points in a game. And saying you will refrain from nominating more, but only if Ganesha can promise you there will be another backlog drive for you to exploit in October? The level of entitlement to other peoples' time and effort you're exhibiting here is fucking staggering. An editor with your level of tenure and experience ought to know better. ♠PMC(talk) 22:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Pinging WP:WIKICUP judges Cwmhiraeth, Frostly, and repinging Epicgenius. Based on recent behavior, TonyTheTiger is not going to stop this flood of nominations unless told to do so, and far too many of the GA nominations so far have been of articles that are far from meeting the GA criteria, if they're being quickfailed. As PMC notes, that's not fair to regular editors who spend time to review them when they could be improving Wikipedia with that time. The nominating instructions are very clear: Ensure that the article meets Wikipedia policies and guidelines as expected of any article, including neutral point of view, verifiability, no original research, and notability. Then check the article against the good article criteria and make any improvements that you think are necessary. This should be done for every single article prior to nomination, and if it had been, many of these nominations would not have been made, or would have been delayed while the articles were improved to meet the criteria. Also, even though he's working through a list of several hundred DYKs that I have had since I last entered the CUP in 2010, just because it was once a DYK doesn't mean that he's a significant contributor to the article—as witness Rodgers + Hammerstein's Cinderella (Beane musical), which he originally nominated at DYK but did not create and only made a dozen minor edits—and should not be nominating those articles at GAN given the recent changes to GAN rules. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      i've just quickfailed Mekia Cox, which not only cites IMDb, but also a forum post from 2010. this is completely disruptive and taking up reviewers' time when we could be reviewing articles that had the absolute bare minimum amount of attention paid to them before nomination, or working on our own projects. i'm frustrated, to say the least. sawyer * he/they * talk 00:48, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks for the ping @BlueMoonset. I mentioned a sampling of the issues above, and I recommended that Tony go through all of these nominations to see if they actually meet the standards. Judging by the fact that some of these nominations have just been quickfailed, I'm not confident that this has been done.
      Tony, I strongly encourage you to go back and double check all of your remaining nominations to see if they meet the GA criteria. From the looks of it, you are nominating articles that you haven't edited in years, so it's hard to determine whether you can vouch for the quality of these articles. I suggest you double check these nominations as soon as you can. Epicgenius (talk) 01:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]