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On the origin of the band's name
[edit]I can remember reading back around 1980 in Rolling Stone or some other music magazine that the band's name was a metric conversion of the name of the American band The Lovin' Spoonful. Apocryphal or not, there must surely be some source somewhere about this, if nothing else some interview where a band member is asked this question (although, for some reason, interviewers rarely ask obvious questions - why, I don't know). If nothing else, should there be a line in the article reading something like, "Contrary to popular belief, the name 10cc is not based upon the American band The Lovin' Spoonful"? __209.179.55.119 (talk) 19:35, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Not just "One cc more than ecstasy", then? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
The name of the band, though they will probably never admit it, is a reference to IV drug use. Syringes are graduated by cubic centimeters(cc), which can also be expressed as milliliters, and the insulin syringes used by most IV drug user commonly come in either 50cc 0r 100cc total capacities. A shot containing a dose of potent heroin, or potent cocaine, could be in a solution that measures only 10cc, which is a tiny amount. Unless I'm an extraordinarily virile man, like the members of 10cc, the average size of a human male's ejaculate has to be larger than that. I could be unique, but a more proper estimate, IMO, would be a tablespoon, which is equivalent to 15cc, therefore an 'extra large' amount would have to be much more than 15cc. If anything, 10cc is less than average. However, I could be an anomaly, and wrong about this. Wouldn't be the first time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.88.43.62 (talk) 23:37, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Citation
[edit]I would like to add a 2018 Wax interview to the Wax section, where Gouldman discusses 10cc-zaneta — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZanetaStepanova (talk • contribs) 00:20, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @ZanetaStepanova: I have removed it, pending consensus from other editors, because your sole aim in editing Wikipedia appears to be to promote your website(s). I also note that the website in question triggers the filter log. Nzd (talk) 21:53, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
It adds to the Wax section, it adds to the 10cc page. The article disproves some inaccuracies on pages. Bridge to Your Heart was not GODLEY AND CREME. Gouldman himself said so. You should be thanking me, not cutting it out. -zaneta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.217.136.255 (talk) 13:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Article issues and classification
[edit]- There is a big banner at the top of the article that proclaims, "needs additional citations". The article also has inline "citation needed" tags from September 2009, November 2016, August 2019, and September 2022, a "needing clarification" tag dated September 2022, and several unsourced paragraphs.
- The B-class criteria #1 states;
The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited.
and #4,The article is reasonably well-written.
- The article needs reassessment. -- Otr500 (talk) 15:58, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
King's "version of events" can be found here, where he says (emphasis added):
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10CC had left me, which infuriated me because I had explained to the band when I took them on ‘This will take three years of losses to build you up, two years where I will make huge profits and then in five years you’re out of your contract and you can get a fortune from somebody else, or I’ll have to match the money’. As it is with all groups, there let it get to two-and-a-half years of spend, saw the money coming along and instantly sued to get out of their contract with me.
How did they find a legal reason to get out?
They tried everything to get out, and couldn’t. My lawyers were very good, so eventually I ended up selling them to Phonogram because it was too much of a pain in the arse. The reason I did that was because (Richard) Branson came along and basically said to them ‘I’ll take a shot. I don’t care if Jonathan sues me – I need something for Virgin that will be profile. If a judge decides they’re his records, I’ll give him all the royalties afterwards, but I’ll take that chance.’ None of the major were prepared to do that. I realised eventually that Phonogram were offering much more money than Virgin, so I thought I’ll to do the Phonogram deal to get the money. I got the same over-ride that the group was getting from me – 4%. To this day I own all the masters they made for UK. I think they had 16 Top Ten records and eight of them are owned by me.
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