Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia/Archive 11
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Invitation to the 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest
Hello, everyone! I'd like to invite you all to sign up for the upcoming 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. The event runs from July 1 to September 30 and signups close on July 15. The WikiContest focuses on developing countries, which Indonesia is a part of. The intention is to improve the English Wikipedia's coverage and comprehension of articles related to developing countries. For this reason, you may also expect that articles related to Indonesia may be heavily edited during the contest. More information on how points will be awarded can be found at Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring. For comments or suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Wikipedia talk:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. Thank you! (Copied with permission of Chlod) CMD (talk) 12:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Committee of Nine (Indonesia)
Hi everyone - It would be great to get some more eyes on the merge discussion at Talk:Jakarta Charter#Merge proposal. The proposed merge (of Committee of Nine (Indonesia) into the main Jakarta Charter article) could use some more opinions. Hope to see you over there. Ckfasdf (talk) 22:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Sad news
With regret, I bring the news that User:Hanif Al Husaini has recently passed away. He had listed himself as a participant of this Wikiproject. You can leave comments on User talk:Hanif Al Husaini. starship.paint (RUN) 01:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Name of Candra Wijaya
Hi, the article Candra Wijaya has a hatnote which claims that this individuals family name is "Candra Wijaya", is this accurate? Are they a single double family name or a case of two family names used by a person? The Wikidata item for the individual seems to treat "Candra" as a given name. ★Trekker (talk) 17:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Related discussion regarding Indonesian names
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anthroponymy#How_to_categorize_surnames_that_aren't_really_surnames? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Nusantara (city)#Requested move 16 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nusantara (city)#Requested move 16 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 16:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Indonesian place at AfD
There is an ongoing deletion discussion concerning a place in Indonesia. The article has no sources, but I see that the Indonesian Wikipedia version of the article has some. Could someone add these to the English article to save it from deletion? Un assiolo (talk) 23:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- One is an unrelated list of provinces which won't help. The other is a statistics publication which while useful won't help with notability. A couple of better sources have been shared at the AfD already, although more would be useful. CMD (talk) 00:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- The major problem was that about 2012 a large number of stubs were created for lower level places in Jakarta and other places in Indonesia, and they stayed more less untouched. The next level up - the Cengkareng and similar articles are - as far as the problem of notability and verifiability is concerned, covered by associations with historical events within their area, that can be verified. As the editing in the Jakarta lower level locations has never been systematically reviewed, it is likely that a process of deciding either here or whereever, should consider whether low level stubs are justifiable for Jakarta or not. There would have been a particular pertinent perspective on a capital that is being possibly supplanted by the Kalimantan location in the future, to gain a snapshot of the governance and administrative structure of the country capital, while it still is that, if it remains capital or not. JarrahTree 02:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, Duri Kosambi has 100,000 people - not exactly hard to expect something and it's not like it's a kelurahan in some kabupaten town. I will see if I can expand the article later. Juxlos (talk) 10:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I am inclined to support deletion, as I believe there is hardly anything notable in a "kelurahan"-level article. Even on idwiki, the content typically consists solely of geographical location and demographic information. This information could be more appropriately included in a "kecamatan"-level article. Ckfasdf (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, Duri Kosambi has 100,000 people - not exactly hard to expect something and it's not like it's a kelurahan in some kabupaten town. I will see if I can expand the article later. Juxlos (talk) 10:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- The major problem was that about 2012 a large number of stubs were created for lower level places in Jakarta and other places in Indonesia, and they stayed more less untouched. The next level up - the Cengkareng and similar articles are - as far as the problem of notability and verifiability is concerned, covered by associations with historical events within their area, that can be verified. As the editing in the Jakarta lower level locations has never been systematically reviewed, it is likely that a process of deciding either here or whereever, should consider whether low level stubs are justifiable for Jakarta or not. There would have been a particular pertinent perspective on a capital that is being possibly supplanted by the Kalimantan location in the future, to gain a snapshot of the governance and administrative structure of the country capital, while it still is that, if it remains capital or not. JarrahTree 02:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Would people be interested in joining a wikiproject on improving and creating articles about oral tradition? Wikipedia's coverage on this appears to be very poor Kowal2701 (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also think it's a subject that needs expanding, sadly I'm not expert myself.★Trekker (talk) 20:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm only an amateur and am new to it, you don't need any expertise. If other people are interested I'd like to have key resources on the main page for people to learn about it. Jan Vansina's book Oral tradition as history [1] is probably the best place to start for a general understanding Kowal2701 (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check it out.★Trekker (talk) 22:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm only an amateur and am new to it, you don't need any expertise. If other people are interested I'd like to have key resources on the main page for people to learn about it. Jan Vansina's book Oral tradition as history [1] is probably the best place to start for a general understanding Kowal2701 (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Kertanegara requested move
I have started a move proposal at Talk:Kertanegara of Singhasari. Please participate in it. Neocorelight (Talk) 23:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Sulawesi Separatist Movement
Does anyone know if this flag even legit? Flag of Sulawesi Separatist Movement
I can't seem to find any information about the supposed "Sulawesi Separatist Movement" let alone any use of said flag. The only reference I could find is This but I don't think it's reliable and/or credible enough.
If it's fictional I recommend taking it off from pages such as: List of Indonesian flags EvoSwatch (talk) 09:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've seen a lot of dubious "historical" or "separatist flags" lately and many seems to be traced back to crwflags.com. I'm not familiar with the website, is it considered WP:RS? Unlike problems with provincial/city flags, these are harder to verify. Nyanardsan (talk) 17:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Uncertainty, and lack of anything to WP:VERIFY please remove... JarrahTree 15:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Open invitation for UI students
Inviting all active students at the University of Indonesia who have actively edited Wikipedia/its sister project in the past or present to join the Universitas Indonesia wiki community here. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Territorial Commands translations
As of now I'm not suggesting changing or anything, though I'm intrigued to hear what you guys might say.
Translations and its official counterpart according to "The Military English Handbook" published by the Army Personnel Staff, October 2012. pp. 40, 46.
Kodam / Military Regional Command => Military Area Command
Korem / Military Resort Command => Military Subarea Command
Kodim / Military District Command => Military District Command
Koramil / Military Rayon Command => Military Subdistrict Command
Babinsa / Village Trustee NCO => Village Management Senior NCO
Both are correct translations, but I'm interested in you guys opinion on the matter. And yes 'Rayon' is real word. - EvoSwatch (talk) 15:13, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:RSUEQ
Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations by Wikipedians
. And IMO, official translation can be considered as reliable source. Therefore, I have no objection if we change the translations for Indonesian military terms. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Ucu Agustin
Ucu Agustin has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Batik
Batik has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 00:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)