Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography

Requested move at Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump#Requested move 15 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump#Requested move 15 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2019 El Paso shooting#Requested move 15 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2019 El Paso shooting#Requested move 15 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Éric Borel#Requested move 17 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Éric Borel#Requested move 17 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Are war crimes in scope?

I'm inclined to think yes but I am unsure. Another question, which I am even less certain of: are war related massacres/mass killings in the purview of the serial killer task force? I feel those are slightly different issues. But not sure. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: The UNODC's crime classification standard (ICCS) has several categories that classify a range of War crimes (11013) as well as Unlawful killing associated with armed conflict (0107), where those do not amount to war crimes, as crimes.[1] This implies war crimes are definitely in scope, especially where one or more perpetrators have been charged with a war crime or there is an investigation by relevant authorities that war crimes have been committed. Mere allegations without a judicial ruling are, perhaps, a grey area. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 20:00, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

@Cameron Dewe makes sense to me. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 13 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 13 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --MikutoH ^talk! 22:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff#Requested move 1 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff#Requested move 1 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Merge of WP:TERRORISM into this project

I have started a discussion on WP:TERRORISM about making that project a task force of this one, since it is inactive and has so much overlap with our project. See here. Please contribute your thoughts. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: I note that this merger has been completed now, with all the WikiProject Terrorism related articles now having a WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography banner and rating. By my estimates, over half the articles already had a Crime and Criminal Biography banner on them, and of the remainder I looked at, all but one probably should have had the banner added, too. I only saw one article where the crime banner should not have been put on the article, and that was because it was not terrorism in the first place, and should have been classified as a military action instead. Far less painful a migration than previous merges. Well done. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 17:03, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Unassessed articles

Now that the WP Terrorism articles were tagged with this project (or are, it's not done yet), the unassessed importance articles backlog has gone from 0 to what is looking to be several thousand. I will handle what I can. Well, at least we'll get all of the notifications for articles on article alerts now, I always thought it was really annoying that we didn't. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:03, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Done with AWB. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: Thanks for all the hard work. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 17:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Consensus to split into subpages?

I'm partially neutral on this but while changing all the page names for WP:TERROR I realized they use the subpage method of organization, while we have everything on one page. I think it is clearer organizationally if we do it that way, but didn't want to do it without consensus. For example, we could split resources/participants/recognized content/open tasks off to their own pages. thanks :D PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I think having all the WikiProject content on one page makes it easier to see what is going on with a WikiProject. Having multiple pages poses the risk of content forking, where information on one page conflicts with similar information on another. While it is a good idea to have separate pages for each task force of a WikiProject, having a centralized page for the overall WikiProject reduces the number of different pages one needs to keep an eye on to just one. I see sub-pages as mostly being for sections of the main project page that you want people to contribute to, without actually editing the main project page itself. The content might appear on the main project page in an abbreviated form but editing takes place on the sub-page, like documentation sub-pages for templates, where one does not want the template page to be updated. However, I don't see the need for that approach here, at the moment. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 17:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, honestly PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)