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It's only been a couple of years, figure we should dust off this section...hey @Sturmvogel 66: - I was looking through the lists the other day, and saw we have a couple of co-noms we could put up at FAC: French battleship Charles Martel or French battleship Liberté, if you're interested. Parsecboy (talk) 21:19, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Italian battleship Francesco Caracciolo
[edit]I've just noticed that User:DeltaSquad833 has created an article for the launched just to clear the slipway Italian battleship Francesco Caracciolo (1920). Looks to be adapted straight from the class article, though I haven't checked to see how direct a copy the language is. I see no need for this article as it offers no extra details over the class article, unlike our articles on the US battleships Kentucky and Illinois. It's also in pretty bad shape, but maybe that's just me. Thoughts?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Maybe just leave it on for now until we get enough feedback? Probably just move it to draft and see what I’ll do with it.--DeltaSquad833 (talk) 12:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm not sure that the article is necessary or even useful as the class article already covers everything we know about the ship. And I don't believe that this is one of those situations where there's more information available to be discovered. But let's see what others think about it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't generally think there's a point to articles on ships that weren't built, unless there's something significant in the available sources to justify it. For example, Japanese battleship Tosa was involved in weapons tests that were used to help develop the armor layout for Yamato. Parsecboy (talk) 14:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
@DeltaSquad833:, since it's been a few months and nothing further has come of it, I've moved the article to User:DeltaSquad833/Italian battleship Francesco Caracciolo (1920). Parsecboy (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Discussion that may be of interest
[edit]There's a discussion about the contents of List of battleships here that editors here may be interested in joining. Parsecboy (talk) 14:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Kirov-class
[edit]Would the (Kirov class battlecruisers) be in the scope of the project? SEKDIS (talk) 19:51, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Coordinator discussion
[edit]FYI: WT:MHCOORD#Majestic Titan. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
What happened to these lists?
[edit]The List of battlecruisers of World War II and List of ships of World War II are both very unusual. The overall list of ships doesn't seem to have a list at all, and the battlecruiser list only covers 4 ships despite mentioning ships of other nations in its introduction. Am I missing something? Tylermack999 (talk) 17:52, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Good question - I've never been a big fan of these lists, which were created primarily by a single user a few years back. The battlecruiser lists in particular seem pretty redundant to the main List of battlecruisers page, since the Venn diagram between that list and the List of battlecruisers of World War I is basically a circle, and the World War II list is a tiny subset of those two lists (general consensus is that 4 items do not a stand alone list make). It's also dubious to include Yavuz in that list, since Turkey was not a belligerent - we aren't talking about a List of battlecruisers of the World War II era, after all. I'd be happy to redirect both of them as redundant, if it were up to me.
- As for the general list, I think the whole project is a bit of a fool's errand; there are, comfortably, a thousand vessels that would be included on List of frigates of World War II, and I don't really see the utility of a list that size. List of corvettes of World War II and List of minor warships of World War II are both comically incomplete, but would suffer from the same problem. The minor warships page would be ludicrously long if it even approached completeness. I don't see a lot of value in these lists. Parsecboy (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Now that you mention it, I definitely agree. Then would the right move be to redirect them? Or maybe they could be converted into lists including ships that served in the Second World War but not the first. Like you said though, there isn’t much there. Tylermack999 (talk) 03:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)