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- Nominator(s): Hog Farm Talk 05:15, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
For a brief time, George B. Crittenden was an example of some of the greatest pathos of the American Civil War. He was the son of John J. Crittenden, who tried to stave off the Civil War as a congressman. When the war came though, George went south and became a major general, while his brother Thomas L. Crittenden stayed north and also became a major general - the highest ranking instance I can think of for brother against brother. George's time in the spotlight did not last long. He had been arrested multiple times while serving in the antebellum US Army for being drunk on duty, but his career was saved by his father's influence. His first Confederate field service ended in a disastrous defeat at the Battle of Mill Springs. Rumors of drunkenness followed, and his fairly incompetent subordinate whose fault part of the mess was had been killed and thus avoided the blame. Arrested for drunkenness again a few months later, and without a powerful father to stave off the consequences, Crittenden spent the rest of the war as an obscure staff officer. A touching story about Crittenden's actions in the Black Bean Episode, which is repeated in many biographical descriptions of Crittenden, is probably false. Hog Farm Talk 05:15, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Image review
- An awful lot of icons - see MOS:ICON
- Removed. I don't think these are useful, but I'm 100% certain that somebody will add them back later. There's a group of editors who considers these to be necessarily and I'm frankly tired of dealing with this. Hog Farm Talk 06:18, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:ACW_Western_Theater_September_1861_-_April_1862.png: see MOS:COLOUR. Nikkimaria (talk) 06:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- I really don't know what to do here. We have a map, which has been created by a professional Civil War cartographer whose work has been published in scholarly RS and has been donated to Wikipedia. This is essentially the best possible map we could have for this. And now we can't use this, which will be of great benefit to the vast majority of readers, because it may cause some issues for a minority of readers. I undestand and sympathize with the accessiblity concern, but there's a point where we need to apply some Utilitarianism - removing this image would be like saying that nobody can have a parking spot if there's isn't an ability to have one that is perfectly accessible. Hog Farm Talk 06:18, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nikkimaria - Would it alleviate some of the issues if the caption were to include which of the name labels on the movement line were Union leaders? Then a reader who had issues distinguishing between the colors could figure out which lines were which sides? Hog Farm Talk 17:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think that should be workable. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:48, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nikkimaria - Would it alleviate some of the issues if the caption were to include which of the name labels on the movement line were Union leaders? Then a reader who had issues distinguishing between the colors could figure out which lines were which sides? Hog Farm Talk 17:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- I really don't know what to do here. We have a map, which has been created by a professional Civil War cartographer whose work has been published in scholarly RS and has been donated to Wikipedia. This is essentially the best possible map we could have for this. And now we can't use this, which will be of great benefit to the vast majority of readers, because it may cause some issues for a minority of readers. I undestand and sympathize with the accessiblity concern, but there's a point where we need to apply some Utilitarianism - removing this image would be like saying that nobody can have a parking spot if there's isn't an ability to have one that is perfectly accessible. Hog Farm Talk 06:18, 9 February 2025 (UTC)