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Template:25 largest settlements in the UK by urban core population

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:38, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:25 largest settlements in the UK by urban core population (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox based on an article that has been deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest United Kingdom settlements by population for WP:OR. JimmyGuano (talk) 18:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as not based on a reliable source, like the Office of National Statistics. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:01, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Paquito Montanez

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:41, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Paquito Montanez (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template that looks to ment as an article. But as article, it would be an unsourced BLP. Template just use once, in an article about his book, The Banner _talk 12:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:!-

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, and it appears there was no consensus to deprecate it either? Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:29, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:!- (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Previous TfD Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 June 9#Template:!-. --Salix (talk): 11:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replace and then delete (cannot be tagged, as it is protected. Tagging might also break thousands of tables.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's potentially confusing - I'd never seen it before, and wouldn't know what to make of it if I found it in a page. However, wikitable markup is a total disaster, so in that respect it should probably be kept as a more readable alternative (I find {{!-}} more readable than {{!}}- ). — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:23, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep this is needed for WP:Parser functions doing a subst will break all of them. The pipe symbol cannot be substed in. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 20:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
who said they would be substituted? the suggestion is to replace {{!-}} with {{!}}-, which does the exact same thing, and uses the same number of characters. now, which is more readable is debatable. the same could be said for {{(!}} which is redundant to {{{!}}, but that one isn't deprecated for some reason. 174.56.57.138 (talk) 21:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned, given the fact that we can use {{!}}-, the template does not seem of any use. As for {{(!}}, this seems a little more readable than {{{!}}.--Patrick (talk) 01:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep while it could easily be replaced by {{!}}- it does have a specific semantic meaning, i.e. that thing you use if you need a table markup in a template. It has only recently been marked as deprecated.--Salix (talk): 11:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've always thought this was ugly, but let's work on orphaning it first before we decide by fiat that nobody is to use it any more. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
keep As above, this has different semantics to {{!}}-. Also there appears to bee no nomination rationale here beyond, "Six years ago, some other editor didn't understand what it was for".

Also censure Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ who has taken it upon himself to start orphaning this template already, even while the TfD is still running. [1] [2] (and on other's userpages, no less). Some of the vast list is here Andy Dingley (talk) 09:56, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: Some editors use this for convenience. I do not see a reason to TfD {{!}} either (if there is anything like that to pop up in future) either because it is superlatively essential for this whole project to work. --Marianian^(talk) 22:27, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Naming

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 05:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Naming (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:RMlink?

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RMlink? (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it's marked as historical. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 20:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
delete, it's just an unused fork of {{RMlink}}. Frietjes (talk) 15:54, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:RMlink

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:52, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RMlink (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it's marked as historical -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 20:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
keep or move to a subpage of Wikipedia:Requested moves. Frietjes (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:RMinc

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:52, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RMinc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment what was it superceded by? Contested speedies and incomplete move requests still occur, regardless of having a bot. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 20:32, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Just fix them. There is no template needed. Apteva (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - A boilerplate message to people about a failed proposal (ie. failed speedy move) would seem to be in order, so they can get around to making a full request. (unlike WP:CFD, WP:RM does not list failed speedy requests in the speedy section) ; And a you didn't fill that in properly message for messed up requested move formulations would also seem to be a good idea, to get people to read the instructions more closely. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 04:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - See:

Wbm1058 (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- - - - So that would restrict this template to be used for you didn't fill that in right , since contested has a separate template now. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 05:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
delete, if Anthony Appleyard isn't contesting this, it must not be of use anymore. Frietjes (talk) 15:51, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Multimoveoptions

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:48, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Multimoveoptions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Multimove

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:48, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Multimove (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Moveto

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Moveto (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Movesug

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Movesug (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Moveoptions

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Moveoptions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Move2

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Move2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Move-specialized

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Move-specialized (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, superseded, and unused. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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