Wikipedia:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 1

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Copy-Cat

User:Node ue just started Wikipedia:Moldovan Wikipedians' notice board as an apparent response to this page. What a copy-cat. Alexander 007 23:06, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A response? No more than the RWNB is a "response" to the Canadian Wikipedians NB. There needs to be a place where Moldovan topics can be discussed. --Node 00:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, but I just noticed that you have the exact same headlines as we do; and our headlines were originally ours. I'm not complaining. I like the way you designed your page. Could you help us out with this page? Instead of adding our flag, you could add a photo of a hot chick. I'll let you choose. I trust you have good taste. --Anittas 01:40, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and please refrain from personal attacks and name-calling. --Node 00:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Did I just hear something? Sounded like "Aflac". Alexander 007 01:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Their page has better design, but it's so silly to see him repeating the same words and phrases he known: ghini ai venit. WTF? We can also say "bini", instead of "bine". So stupid... --Anittas 01:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on Anittas

Jmabel started a RfC on me, accusing me of making an anti-Semetic comment. For those who are interested, have a look at this RfC, read all arguments, and if you want, endorse the argument that you support. --Anittas 06:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for stating that neutrally. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone should read carefully and don't forget who is the biggest extremist vandal and who has provocates us many times without being blocked for good. That kid had many bad remarks on romanians. You should consider this argument first. -- Bonaparte talk 10:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User:NazismIsntCool

I suspect that User:NazismIsntCool is an impersonator, pretending to be a Romanian. She may add her name to the list below since it is not restricted to people of Romanian nationality or ethnicity, but I want to make the community here aware of my suspicions. See User talk:Anittas#User:NazismIsntCool for compelling evidence in support of my charge. Alexander 007 13:46, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- She is also User:RomaniaIsntCool or at least it was the Admin User:Woohookitty that have discovered this and he blocked her, and after she vandalized today Romania's site eventually she got blocked for good(http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:RomaniaIsntCool), -- Bonaparte talk 14:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - No. Woohookitty blocked RomaniaIsntCool for impersonating User:NazismIsntCool and for vandalizing. RomaniaIsntCool may be NazismIsntCool, but I'm not making that charge. Alexander 007 14:06, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes. For that reason she/he was blocked.-- Bonaparte talk 16:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Romaniaisntcool is not Naziisntcool. If you read on her talkpage, you will see that two people went against her for having that name. I went there and flamed their ass; then I notified Jimbo about it. Here is his reply on the whole matter: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Jimbo.2C_check_this_out_.28about_Nazism_and_Wiki.29

One of the dudes that asked her to change her name, said that it could be offensive to Nazis; and he asked her how she would feel about it if someone made a nickname "Romaniaisntcool". I suspect that it's one of those two dudes that made that nickname. Anyhow, is Nazismisntcool here? I don't see her here. --Anittas 18:28, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bonaparte's earlier charge was false. My charge---that she is not Romanian---is a different matter, and does not involve Bonaparte's charge. I posted it here because I want other Romanian Wikipedians to know about her. And as I said, I am not discouraging her from signing her name here---I'm the one who added to the intro the fact that non-Romanian editors (like her, most likely) are welcome. Alexander 007 18:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, let's be real. You see the date of birth on her User Page---she would have been 18 or 19 when she allegedly left Timisoara, Romania. And she never heard of Moldavia? Anittas, if you believe that, uh....I don't know what to say. It's possible she is Romanian actually born in the U.S. or outside of Romania, but even that I doubt. Her auto-bio on her User Page is fiction. Alexander 007 18:34, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say I believed it. I don't really care, either. I don't know the user. And yes, everyone is welcomed here, no matter of their natioanlity. I remember you adding that text. I guess I was in a rush when I wrote it. It looks good, now. :) --Anittas 18:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I referred to this vandalism made by User:RomaniaIsntCool(http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Romania&diff=30924413&oldid=30853211)-- Bonaparte talk 18:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User:Antidote

(Antidote | talk | contributions), aka (StabRule | talk | contributions), aka (HotelRoom | talk | contributions), aka (EscapeArtistsNeverDie | talk | contributions) had attacked several romanian related pages. List of Jewish Romanians, List of Jewish Romanians, Romanians! This vandal cannot be member of our community! I propose you to reject him! I would appreciate if you could endorse the request for comment at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote#Other_users_who_endorse_this_summary -- Bonaparte talk 17:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have a basis to claim these are all one person? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:16, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Of course Joe! http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote/Voting -- Bonaparte talk 10:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Without trying to get into the IPs, all this shows for the named users is that on a series of related issues—mostly things where one would not be surprised to see opinions line up—they were all on the same side. I must say, if you look at the overall editing patterns of these accounts, he'd be one very busy puppeteer. -- Jmabel | Talk 03:10, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship nomination for Bogdangiusca; Bogdangiusca is back!

This is the best news I want to share you for today! He will be even better than he was, I hope you'll respect him and support his actions. Let's be united!-- Bonaparte talk 11:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated him for admin at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bogdangiusca.

Ronline ✉ 05:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Orioane

Orioane is now Administrator. Let us congratulate him! -- Bonaparte talk 21:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Projects

Advertise or ask for assistance for your Romanian-related Wiki projects

Paul Celan

I'm currently working on a literary thesis about Paul Celan, Alfred Margul-Sperber and Rose Ausländer--who were all Romanian and German speaking Jews (who survived the Holocaust) from Bukovina. I would like to create and/or edit and update existing pages for them, and perhaps create a new one addressing the nascent Romanian/German poetry that continued after the division of Bukovina. I will have time to start this maybe in two weeks. 99% of my sources will be from the German texts I personally own or borrow from Ohiolink. I also would like to create a page that addresses some of Celan's Romanian language poetry, published by Green Integer. vkxmai 22:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be waiting for these articles, since I know nothing about these people. Meanwhile, you could add your nickname to the list of contributors. :) --Anittas 00:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently there already is an Ausländer article and a Margul-Sperber one exists only in German. I'll probably just add content to both the English and German variants at once. vkxmai 16:46, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Romania's integration in EU

Romania will join EU in 2007. This is one of the most important process from recent history of Romania. Here a lot of things to be debated. I need help to write such an article. -- Bonaparte talk 17:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to help out with this if I can. I speak German and French and regularly read many news outlets from those countries, perhaps we could somehow create a list of relevant articles as the official date approaches? I'm thinking specifically of periodicals of record like Die Zeit, Le Monde, The Guardian, Harper's and The Atlantic. Google News tracker is another good way to keep up with these sorts of things and keep a record (also free). vkxmai 22:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. I regularly read Die Zeit, [1]. I think is good your approach. Bonaparte talk 17:14, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The article is http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Accession_of_Romania_to_the_European_Union , Accession of Romania to the European Union any help is welcome! -- Bonaparte talk 19:02, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Vaslui

This is an article started by me where I worked the most. I got a tremendous help from many people. I tried to get it featured, but I was told that I needed some English references. I added many references, but none of them are in English. If any of you know of any English references that tell about this battle, please add them! Recently, I added a new image. If you guys have anything useful to add, please do so. --Anittas 14:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Who told you you need English-language references? That should not be a requirement. We certainly have FAs whose references are entirely in German or in Spanish. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Officially, it might not be a requirement, but it still seems to be necesary. I was told this when I tried to feature the article, and, also when I asked Raul, the guy in charge of picking the articles to be featured. See the discussion (Featured articles). --Anittas 11:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I added a English reference. It's still Dlugosz, but it's translated in English. I posted the ISBN. We could use more, tho. --Anittas 12:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, the user who uploaded the image Image:Highbridge vaslui.jpg forgot to copyright it. I tried to contact him/her, but got no repsonse. Anyways it seems like a photo taken from a website, not made by him/her, and there could be problems if using a uncopirighted picture on a FA. Beside this, the monument deserves a better picture than that one. --Orioane 12:25, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Crap! Okay, who lives near Vaslui? Seriously. Can we find a photo of the monument elsewhere? Did you find the site? I might want to contact them. --Anittas 12:42, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Try Flickr. It's got a large number of Creative-Commons-licensed image. I've used many of them for the Bucharest article and Oradea.

Ronline ✉ 02:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

They got none of Vaslui, but I'm sure you knew that already. All you needed to do was searching for Vaslui. --Anittas 05:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bucharest

I'm currently working, with help from Orioane and Jmabel, on bringing Bucharest up to featured article status. Help from people who live in Bucharest would be greatly appreciated, particularly photos, information, etc. See talk page. Ronline ✉ 00:59, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It says that Bucharest was burned down by the Turks in 1595, but don't forget that Stefan cel Mare burned it down in 1476. Also, I believe the city became the capital of Romania in 1862, not 1861. --Anittas 07:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

We must keep a reasonable level of details in each section. Once it becomes too large small details must be moved to a separate article. The fire of 1595 was added because it marked the creation of the first streets that still exist in present day Bucharest. --Orioane 08:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, seeing that you have photos of clubs and a list of so many schools, I thought it was significant enough. In either case, Bucharest was made capital in 1862. I double-checked this on Encyclopedia Britannica. --Anittas 08:19, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, but Bucharest is also a lively city, its not only history, monuments and blocurile gri, and first and foremost this article is for foreigners and should try to present all the aspects of life in Bucharest. And because its the biggest universitary city in Romania it has a very lively clublife. About the number of highschools I agree that it is a little bit longer and the list must be reshuffled, but we tried to add only the top highschools and they are quite a lot of good highschools in Bucharest. --Orioane 08:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Romanian language

I'm working, alas alone, on a series of articles related to the Romanian language. First I developed Romanian phonology (though there are still things to add, such as Romanian morpho-phonology, etc.), and recently I kind of finished Romanian nouns. I'm taking a sort of break before I start again with separate articles on Romanian verbs, pronouns, and so on. Before, Bogdan Giuşcă would check my articles -- his departue is such an immense loss -- now I can only hope someone will join me in this effort, at least to check I don't miss something important, or make any blatant mistake. --AdiJapan

Alex is your best choice, then, but you probably knew that already. Keep trying to reach Bogdan. He made an edit a day after he supposedly left. --Anittas 12:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bogdan studied this stuff in school in Bucharest I assume, while I (in the states) haven't formally studied Romanian in any school. Bogdan's the choice in this case. I just checked, and he's made as of now three edits since his purported last, goodbye edit on the 29 of Nov. Alexander 007 13:37, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Someone who is liked by Bogdan should ask him to return and join us here. Japan, you do it! --Anittas 13:39, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea if he likes me or not, but I did email him the minute I found out about his decision. No reply though. --AdiJapan 15:34, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Culture of Romania

I took the article under my supervision for quite a fuew weeks by now and with the help of Jmabel it looks quite OK by now. I still have do to about a half of it, and any help would be appreciated. --Orioane 08:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It' the first time I see this article. I'll check more on it, for it looks interesting. --Anittas 07:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Romanian history

I believe there is a huge change (in good) in the way Romanian history is publicly presented and understood. For a long time we've had a history organized around untouchable "national icons" and some "foes". Now, the focus shifts onto providing global understanding of the issues, and insuring consistency between events and figures, even though this may imply the exposure of not-so-bright aspects of great people. Two books I found extraordinary are Florin Calinescu's "O istorie sincera a poporului roman", and Alex Mihai Stoenescu's "Istoria loviturilor de stat din Romania" (4 volumes). I recommend these books to all of you, as I must say that they made me feel how great and complex Romania's history is. Giurascu started a move in this way, with his nice presentation style, but he was not able to touch recent history (too close to him). If someone shares my interest, I'd like to bring this nice stuff to wikipedia. My belief: "Only the whole truth can free us". Dpotop 09:53, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm here. You can count on me. Bonaparte talk & contribs 15:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hear, hear. Dahn 18:55, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I created a specific discussion page for this: User talk:Dpotop/Romanian history business.Dpotop 20:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Populating and making articles for List of Romanians

I'll be working on this soon (already added a few names) - might need help on making articles though. So if anyones up for it? HotelRoom 06:49, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I added Antioch and rearranged a new category. Nice list. --Anittas 12:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Divizia A clubs

I was wondering if anyone here are interested in further expanding the wikipedia pages of the Divizia A football clubs. Unfortunately, for now it's just about only the big Bucuresti clubs and Poli Timisoara that enjoy articles of any real quality, which is quite a pity. I have myself started up a couple of articles, but being poor with pictures and inboxes, they remain very sparce, and most of the club pages could anyhow greatly benifit from being expanded by users with more detailed knowledge about their background and history. Anclation 18:49, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have (hopefully) improved the quality of the U Cluj article. Unfortunately "U" is now playing in Divizia B. When it will be promoted, we'll have 3 good articles... :-) Now seriously, a Divizia B category could be created, as well. --Alex 23:59, 10 December 2005 (GMT)

Hey, could you please add your nickname to the list of contributors? It would also serve the other members, in case they decide to contact other Romanians; and it's also good for the rest of us to have an idea of how big this community can get. --Anittas 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My username is already there (at No. 3) --Alex 12:37, 11 December 2005 (GMT)

The article looks great Alex, good job! Maybe you have something to contribute to the CFR Cluj article too, I've done a bit of work with it myself, but only about the most recent events in its history.

Anclation 10:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, there might be something I could add there, too. But I can't say when it will happen. --Alex 12:38, 11 December 2005 (GMT)

brand Romania

One of the best and succes romanian product is Bitdefender Antivirus(http://www.business.ro/stiri/2005/12/bitdefender_patrunde_in_canada.htm). Who wants to help to expand to an article the most well-known romanian products which are part of Romania's brand? -- Bonaparte talk 20:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]