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File:Azad University Tehran BC logo.png

Resolved. One missing rationale has been added and the image has been removed from any other articles. De728631 (talk) 15:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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This is used in 15 articles but it only has fair use rationales for 4 articles. It violates WP:NFCC#10c in at least 11 articles. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

As above. Remove from all articles that don't have rationale pending consensus.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Stripped from all articles that failed 10c. Please dont bring these cases to NFCR, missing rationales are a simple fix, either add the rationale or remove the use. Werieth (talk) 22:28, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Fixing 10c violations is often quite difficult. If the image is removed, it is often just re-added again. For example, this image still only has fair use rationales for four articles, but it is nevertheless used in five articles. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:32, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that I missed one usage. should be fixed now. Werieth (talk) 12:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

If you edit the infobox for James Eagan Holmes you will see a hidden note I left there to not include the image that has fair use for another article. This may help if it keeps getting re-added like the mugshot did. Since I added the note the image has not been added back.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:24, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I've added a fifth rationale, but I think this can now be closed. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:14, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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A copyright question

File:View of the Fort of the Natchez.jpg has been uploaded at Commons, another one, File:Archie Sam.jpg, is being hosted here with a valid fair use claim. De728631 (talk) 22:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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I would like to use This image from this site in this article. Would that be possible? What license should I use? (If someone knows how and they want to upload it for me that would be swell).User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 22:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I would also like to use this photo] from the same site in this article. Same question/request.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 22:20, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

The first image could possibly be free, but I can't find an assured source of date of publication from the image. You may want to consider writing an email to the Mississippi historical society that is credited with the image to see if they can help identify the date of the image (I'm not getting reverse image hits). If it is old enough, a {{PD-old}} likely would work.

Your second image, for Archie Sam, would be a non-free image (a photo of a deceased person for which we have an article on). I suggest using the "Upload file" wizard from the left-size menu to follow the prompts. --MASEM (t) 23:10, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Another copy of the first image, dated 1797. – JBarta (talk) 23:26, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Then this is clearly public domain, and you can upload it at commons to use here. --MASEM (t) 00:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Maunus, I went ahead and uploaded the public domain one to Commons, since I was able to confirm the 1796 publication date and authorship. It's at File:View of the Fort of the Natchez.jpg. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks guys!User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:00, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Kazan-Brando.jpg

Deleted Werieth (talk) 20:38, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Some other opinions about this image would be useful, since the rationale for its deletion, if accepted, will likely affect numerous existing or potential images (see also Elia Kazan above, regarding similar mass deletions.) As explained in Talk:Elia_Kazan#Non-free_images, the rationale for deleting it was not about any single image, but about an "excessive" number of them. Yet all non-free images were deleted en masse. This particular image, along with most of the others, was not discussed, but it seems worthy of keeping for a number of reasons:

The article, Elia Kazan, is about a famous director, yet this image was one of the few that showed him actually directing;
One of the most notable aspects of his career was his finding new actors and introducing them into movies. One such actor was Marlon Brando, for which an entire section was devoted to Kazan discovering him and making him a star. The above image showed them at work together on a set.
The rationale for deleting it is the same as the deleting editor used for other images: "Taking a look at the photo of them together is completely replaceable with text."

However, despite the above, the deleting editor could only conclude, "Right now I see your argument as WP:ILIKEIT and not based on any policy." Hence, there are now no non-free images, not an "excessive" amount. It seems to me that if this particular photo, as one example, is not allowed despite major supporting commentary, then essentially nothing will be allowed and almost any non-free can be deleted for any reason.

The result of such a strict, no fair use policy, at least for 20th century biographies, is that we end up with articles such as Robert De Niro's, where until a few days ago all of the images supporting his 50-year career as an actor were similar but meaningless suit-and-tie candids of him at recent public events, none of which support any of the commentary. Or Frank Lloyd Wright, which, along with a few posed portraits, includes sixteen photos of buildings he designed, but none of him as a person doing anything he is notable for, ie. at work, travel, or socializing. The result IMO is that WP's bio articles for many 20th century actors and others are noticeably defective. I'm hoping that reviewing this particular image will help clarify this issue. --Light show (talk) 18:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Unless there is something visually unique about the image that is critical to the understanding of the subject (Which there isn't in this case). A free image of the person would replace any non-free image. 1 non-free image can be excessive depending on the subject. Werieth (talk) 19:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Yup. We can use a free image of Brando (in fact already done in the article, specifically from Brando's stardom film as directed by Kazan) to show this aspect. It's of cinematic interest to have a photo of the director and actor together, but that's all it is, of cinematic interest and not of contextual significant that is not irreplacable by free images. --MASEM (t) 19:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

And to the point, one has to remember that our goal is to make a free content work, and the Foundation has recognized that some non-free is necessary but ask us to limit its use. As such, article we create will not be comparable to articles in other comparable works like Encyclopedia Brittanica, which do not have any restriction on non-free use short of standard fair use law. Thus, when arguments that our articles visually look inferior to other works, we have to recognize that as a position of meeting the Foundation's goals. --MASEM (t) 19:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Ben Hall c. 1862.tif

Deleted as CSD F5 (orphaned non-free use) by Mark Arsten. De728631 (talk) 22:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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This image is marked as free at Commons. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Comparing the two pages, it's distinctly problematic. It says "Original publication: Ben Hall - Stories from the hard road", which Google Books dates to 2012. I put it up for deletion at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ben Hall 11.tif.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

We have File:YoungBenHall.jpg which is public domain and is an actual photograph, so I think this fails WP:NFCC#1. If the family can endure going through OTRS, the sketch would look nice in the article. —rybec 21:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Argyle Social logo.png

delete Werieth (talk) 20:36, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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(fasttrack) Querying if this is in fact above TOO. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes it is probably TOO but because it is dependent on a deleted article I think it should be deleted as out of scope and an orphan. ww2censor (talk) 10:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:WKDE-AM 2008.jpg

Deleted per uploader's request. De728631 (talk) 16:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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(fasttrack) Querying TOO status of logo. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I just {{db-author}}'d the image as I am the original uploader. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 09:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Vahan Totovents.jpg

Apparently out of of copyright and now at Commons. De728631 (talk) 17:27, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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Commons consider this to be public domain. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:41, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Delete already on the Commons. --Երևանցի ^talk 15:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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After the Lights

One file deleted Werieth (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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There are two non-free covers used in the infobox, namely File:After The Lights Sweetbox RS.jpg and File:Sweetbox After The Lights KE.jpg. One of them should be removed per WP:NFCC#3a. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 12:07, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:Pokémon episode Beauty and the Beach - screen capture .jpg

No consensus. Sources appear to exist that discuss the controversy in question, but it's not clear whether it amounts to a sufficient level to fulfill WP:NFCC#8. --I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 03:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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The use of this image in Pokémon episodes removed from rotation#"Beauty and the Beach" (Episode 18) seems to violate WP:NFCC#8. The fact that James offends Misty by showing off his inflatable breasts can be described by text and a removal of this image wouldn't hurt a readers understanding of the section. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:24, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not saying the image is in the clear, but I am aware about the issue of this episode in the American version and know it was a source of contention among fans. However, key word is here is "among fans". I have no idea if one can find sources in reliable works that discuss this and the issues it causes, specifically relating towards what 4kids considered to be a level of indecency that would prevail through other works they did (eg just describing in text would not be sufficient if this information was found). It might be possible, but those have to be found to keep the image in place. --MASEM (t) 13:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I found two sources

Tobin, Joseph (2004). Pikachu s Global Adventure: The Rise and Fall of Pokémon. Duke University Press. p. 93. ISBN 0-8223-3250-7.
Camp, Brian; Davies, Julie (2007). Anime Classics Zettai!: 100 Must-See Japanese Animation Masterpieces. Berkeley: Stone Bridge Press. ISBN 978-1-933330-22-8.

I am not sure whether that is enough to keep the image, though. However, I suspect there might be other sources (in particular sources published in the US, such as magazines, maybe newspapers), but possibly nothing that I could easily access. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 19:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:MasterCard Logo.svg

Logo doesn't meet the threshold of originality. --I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:30, 1 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Tagged as non-free and violating WP:NFCC#10c in Acceptance mark (that use also violates WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFG). Possibly below WP:TOO. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 09:58, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment this is the logo used on their cards, so would be the most appropriate one to use, to identify their products. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Below TOO for me as well. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:Former Visa (company) logo.svg

Logo doesn't meet the threshold of originality. --I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:33, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Tagged as non-free and violating WP:NFCC#10c in Acceptance mark (that use also violates WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFG). Possibly below WP:TOO. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 10:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment IANAL, though it seems to me that it fails the originality test and should therefore be free, and thus usable, and should be added to the article. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Below TOO for me as well. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:Plugz.jpg

Usage is acceptable as the group has disbanded. --I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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The use of this cover in The Plugz might violate WP:NFCC#8. It also doesn't seem to fall under those cases usually regarded as acceptable per WP:NFCI#1, as the article is about the band depicted on the cover and not the item to which the cover belongs. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:02, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Given that the group's disbanded, it is reasonable to use non-free to illustrate them. While it would be better to have something akin to a press kit photo, in this case using a known photo of the group from one of their album/single covers is reasonable. (Yes, it's cover art, but here also likely the best photo of the band that is known about). Not really a problem. --MASEM (t) 14:06, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:NCARB logo.jpg

Image is on Commons now and appropriately tagged as being below WP:TOO. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Threshold of originality not met, PD-textlogo? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:42, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:Takasago logo.gif

Image is on Commons now and tagged as free. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:54, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Threshold of originality not met, PD Textlogo? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:Strigino logo en.jpg

Rationale added. All issues resolved. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:17, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Threshold of originality not met, This is a text logo? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:40, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

The reflection effect on the left part of the logo places this well above TOO. The file thus needs a valid rationale. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:58, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:WCPN logo.png

Relicensed as a text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 07:27, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WCLV-FM, WCLV (AM) logo.png

Relicensed as a text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 07:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WCSB logo.png

Relicensed as a text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 07:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WDOK logo.png

No consensus. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:58, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 07:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Unsure on the brush stroke part. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:Power 108.png

Relicensed as a text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 05:08, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WENZ logo.png

Relicensed as a text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 05:10, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:107.9 The END logo.png

Licensed as text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 05:14, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WERE logo.png

Relicensed as a text logo. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} (non-admin closure)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 05:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WGAR-FM logo.png

Image not likely to meet WP:TOO; relicensed. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:07, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Threshold of originality likely not met. Levdr1lp / talk 05:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WHWN logo.png

Fails WP:TOO; relicensing. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:09, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Threshold of originality likely not met. Levdr1lp / talk 05:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WKNR logo.png

Fails WP:TOO; relicensing. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Threshold of originality likely not met. Levdr1lp / talk 06:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:WWGK logo.png

Fails WP:TOO; relicensing. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Threshold of originality likely not met. Levdr1lp / talk 06:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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File:Milo Hanson's whitetail.jpg

Deleted as F7. --Diannaa (talk) 19:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Use of this picture does not support the town "is home to the world record largest whitetail deer trophy" its omission won't harm the article. LGA _talk^edits 05:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

No, not needed. That said, and I don't know what the answer is, if it is a mounted/stuffed head and on display somewhere, there might be the chance a free image of the award could be made, but I don't know if mounted animals get copyright protection as works of art. If they do, this would not be possible. --MASEM (t) 03:41, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

It was also used at deer hunting, which was even less appropriate, as that's an obvious failure of NFCC #1 (we have hundreds of free photos showing various aspects of deer hunting). I've removed it from both and will tag orphan, there's nothing this could justifiably be used for as nonfree. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:38, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:5ive Nightclub.jpg

Deleted. --Diannaa (talk) 21:58, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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(fast track)- Threshold of originality not met? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:54, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't look copyrightable. Doesn't look useful for Wikipedia, so nominated for deletion. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:50, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Dean Corll

Kept the image in the info box, the one from the Commons, and the Polaroid (File:Corll 29th.jpg), which is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. --Diannaa (talk) 20:03, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Are 14 non-free files really needed? Werieth (talk) 12:39, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Flat out failure here. One for ID is appropriate, and maybe perhaps the one of his capture, but the rest are all excess and just illustrating pictures without discussion, with no NFCC#8 allowance. --MASEM (t) 13:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

It's a long and well-sourced article and maybe this should be taken into consideration with this issue here, but there are too many images and at least 50% should be removed to trim the non-free usage to an acceptable level. I think the victims' images are superfluous - the only one you can argue deserves merit for inclusion would be of the suspected victim. Maybe if the 8 victims' images were removed the issue would be resolved? The infobox image should definitely stay, as should the Commons image. The only others which are pertinent are of the perpetrators themselves and maybe the torture board. That would leave just 6 non-free images here. Far more acceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.162.93 (talk) 23:21, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I do not understand why the victims' images are superfluous--would there have been a crime without them? How are they less pertinent than the criminals'? Giving faces to the victims is an act of ethics, and surely would be a part of wikipedia's mission to be "a quality encyclopedia." Excess parsimony would leave this article much poorer as a result--that would be the real "flat out failure". Enderunlu (talk) 20:40, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

No, we are not a memorial for victims of crims. The article is about the criminal, and having an identifying image of him is reasonable but the victims, no. We have a mission to minimize non-free content to only where the reader's understanding would be harmed if the content was removed, which is not the case for the victims' images. --MASEM (t) 20:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

If that is your mission, you might as well remove Corll's picture as well, since "the reader's understanding" would not be "harmed" by not knowing what he looked like. In any case, I do not think that a quality encyclopedia would feature photos of a serial killer but not his victims. (And what if the victims had wikipedia pages of their own? Would an image be acceptable there?)Enderunlu (talk) 23:50, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

If the individuals meet the notability requirements and are notable beyond being victims of Corll, having their own article would justify the inclusion of non-free media. However for most victims that is not accurate. Werieth (talk) 00:04, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to believe that the victim photos are necessary. One photo of the person the article is about (Corll) is clearly justifiable, and perhaps one photo pertaining to the arrest might be. The appearance of the victims is not crucial to the article or discussed in it, so those photos are decorative. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 19:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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Smells Like Teen Spirit

Sound clips have been reduced to two; case closed. --Diannaa (talk) 19:48, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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5 non-free sound clips for a single song is really excessive Werieth (talk) 13:59, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

The studio and the live clips have good reasons to be there. The covers do not; Weird Al's parody has a clip on its own page so definitely doesn't need to be here, and the other two have no discussion of why we need to hear the cover, and thus aren't needed. --MASEM (t) 14:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree. The two variation of the studio mix and the live performance are the only samples with relevance. While I tend to think a single sample is best, the song has some history regarding live performance and seems to give sufficient contextual significance. Loose all the cover versions.--Mark _{Just ask! WER TEA DR/N} 20:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

The covers are irrelevant here. If they belong anywhere, it is upon the pages of the acts who cover them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.162.93 (talk) 23:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I think we need to include the two clips of both the studio version and the live version. If any are to be removed it should be the cover versions.QuintusPetillius (talk) 15:06, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I concur. The article does not require the covers, but the studio mix and live performance are a nice touch that are within what is reasonable for the article. --Qwerty Binary (talk) 14:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:A & W sign in Middlebury, Vermont.jpg

Templating complete; case closed. --Diannaa (talk) 19:44, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Since just about any image that I upload gets nominated for deletion, I'm trying to head things off by asking people to nominate my latest image for deletion now. I don't want to be blind-sided by this at four o'clock on some random Tuesday, so let's just get this out of the way. I don't understand the red tape and loopholes that are image copyright law. Dismas|^(talk) 01:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

If I understand correctly, the purpose of the image is to illustrate the mascot, which I believe is the bear? In that case, it would be best to remove extraneous elements that may also be copyrighted. If it were just an image of the bear, then that would have a reasonable claim to fair use. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

@Dismas: You also need to add a separate license for the photograph. -- Diannaa (talk) 00:17, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Okay, what does that mean? I thought it already has a license on the page. In the license section. I don't understand all the legalese but like to contribute, so please dumb it down. Just tell me what I have to tag, what I have to tag it with, etc. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 01:26, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

@Dismas: The image need two license templates, one for the copyright images on the sign, plus one for your copyright photograph. Here is an example of how it is done; the example image has one template for the coin itself and another for the photograph. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Polonium.jpg

Consensus is that there's no way to get a free image of this element. --Diannaa (talk) 19:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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I'm not convinced that this meets WP:NFCC#1. It certainly fails WP:NFCC#9 or WP:NFC#UUI §6 on some of the pages on which it is used. Stefan2 (talk) 20:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements/Pictures for some relevant discussions. Nergaal (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

srsly? Polonium is a really radioactive element. Getting some is not just a matter of ordering it from your favourite chemical company. Text would not do the job as well. And the image has a clear description about how it was made and that enhances the article with an application. (About the usage: in some of the templates, it's been set up such that the template doesn't display the picture, but the article using it does, e.g. the boxes for polonium and chalcogen. I do agree that some of the uses are inappropriate.) Double sharp (talk) 02:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

See also the archived metalloid fac discussion, image review section, noting unsuccessful attempts (including, NRD) to get an alternative image of polonium.Sandbh (talk) 05:06, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

The precautions that need to be taken in handling Po can be found here (pages 6 and 7). Double sharp (talk) 16:18, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:Pakandam versus Lopopolo match in lightweight division, Tehran, 1960.jpg

Deleted as F5. --Diannaa (talk) 19:32, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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I'm not sure where to take this matter. It says "Published in Tehran, Iran, in 1960. Belongs to personal photo album of Hassan Pakandam". If it is from a personal photo album, then it would suggest that the photo is unpublished (and not compliant with {{PD-US-unpublished}}). On the other hand, if it was published in 1960 (of which we have no evidence), then the image satisfies {{PD-Iran}} (copyright term: 30 years from publication). If it wasn't published, then it presumably violates WP:NFCC#1 as there are presumably other photos which were published at the time. Stefan2 (talk) 22:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

The image has now been uploaded at File:Pakandam versus Lopopolo - Tehran.jpg and File:Pakandam versus Lopopolo.jpg with contradicting information. There it says that it is unpublished, which would make the photo copyrighted in USA. I'm taking the "free" ones to PUF. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:35, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:British Overseas Airways Corporation (logo).svg

Re-templated as PD-ineligible-USonly United Kingdom; trademarked -- Diannaa (talk) 19:29, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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(fasttrack) "Free" at commons - TOO not met? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:43, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Should be {{PD-ineligible-USonly|United Kingdom}} as it would meet the UK copyright rules. LGA _talk^edits 20:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

LGA is right. The TOO in the United Kingdom is fairly low, and that stylized bird would probably do it. So while not necessarily fair use, the logo is still not suited for Commons. De728631 (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:The New England Journal of Medicine.svg and File:Nejm logo2011.PNG

The svg image has been orphaned and deleted. --Diannaa (talk) 19:22, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Need help choosing between File:The New England Journal of Medicine.svg (vector but would be rendered small) and File:Nejm logo2011.PNG (raster that is asserted as low-quality rather than just low-resolution)--one as the NFC logo at The New England Journal of Medicine, the other to delete as unused non-free. Is the png "good enough" for infobox? Is either one "more official" (original format from owner) and therefore more representative of the actual product-mark? DMacks (talk) 13:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

A question that would help is where the SVG image was obtained from. It was said to be on the website but it is not obvious. If the SVG does come from the website, then it is reasonable to use it (despite its resolution aspects) over a PNG as a logo image. However, if someone created that SVG from the logo, then it is far too detailed and either needs to have details reduced, or we replace it with the PNG image. --MASEM (t) 20:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:Caravan bg.jpeg

I have uploaded a poster from Amazon.com. --Diannaa (talk) 19:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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This is the European poster for Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure, the American made-for-TV film. Alternative photos I would use are the TV Guide ad, the LaserDisc cover, the VHS box and the title card. George Ho (talk) 17:31, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:John Ross American Poster.jpg

Deleted as F8; the copy on the Commons has an OTRS ticket attached. --Diannaa (talk) 18:36, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Commons treats image as free. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:37, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:Coat of arms pavlovce.jpg

No idea what "FAL" is supposed to signify. Regardless, the copy on the Commons has been deleted, so this copy should be retained for fair use. --Diannaa (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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FAL at Commons. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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File:Guillermo brown1.jpg

Deleted as F7. This image qualified for speedy deletion under criterion F7 and could have been tagged as such (using {{subst:rfu}}} for a simpler option to listing it here. --Diannaa (talk) 18:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Image is not needed for the article as there are plenty of free Argentine stamps. It could be free under PD Old and transferred to Commons if we knew where the central image came from and how old it is, but it could just as easily be a modern artist's impression.(The comment about it being free as over 20 years old is wrong because it appears to be a drawing, not a photograph Article 34 here). Philafrenzy (talk) 01:28, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Si1eur.jpg

Removed from Primož Trubar. --Diannaa (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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In my opinion, the inclusion of the image in the article Primož Trubar does not meet the WP:NFCCP criterion No. 8: Contextual significance. The inclusion does in no way significantly increase readers' understanding of the article. The usage in the article Slovenian euro coins seems ok to me. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 07:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Si5ct.jpg

Removed from Ivan Grohar. --Diannaa (talk) 18:57, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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In my opinion, the inclusion of the image in the article Ivan Grohar does not meet the WP:NFCCP criterion No. 8: Contextual significance. The inclusion does in no way significantly increase readers' understanding of the article and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding. The usage in other articles seems ok to me. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 07:54, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Si10ct.jpg

Removed from Plečnik Parliament. --Diannaa (talk) 19:01, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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In my opinion, the inclusion of the image in the article Plečnik Parliament does not meet the WP:NFCCP criterion No. 8: Contextual significance. The inclusion does in no way significantly increase readers' understanding of the article and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding. The usage in other articles seems ok to me. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 07:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Si2eur.jpg

Removed from France Prešeren and Zdravljica. --Diannaa (talk) 19:05, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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In my opinion, the inclusion of the image in the article France Prešeren does not meet the WP:NFCCP criterion No. 8: Contextual significance. The inclusion does in no way significantly increase readers' understanding of the article and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding.

The inclusion in the article Zdravljica does not meet the WP:NFCCP criterion No. 1: No free equivalent. The image could be replaced by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all.

The usage in other articles seems ok to me. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 08:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Christopher Scarver.jpg

No consensus to delete. --Diannaa (talk) 22:01, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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This guy is still alive. Should we just speedy delete the file? His article is probably worthy of a speedy as well. If I had my way he wouldn't even deserve a redirect. We are forced to glorify some infamous subjects with articles but we shouldn't be going out of our way to keep the less notable ones.--Canoe1967 (talk) 13:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I think it's appropriate to keep. For one, we shouldn't be using the degree of notability (once past the WP:N or WP:BIO metric for a stand-alone article) to say whether we should have a picture or not - if a person is notable enough for a stand-alone, an image for identification should be allowed (mind you - one is not required to include such an image, however, but that's up to the editors on the page). Yes, this guy isn't a Charles Manson, but he is notable. As for being non-free, he remains incarcerated with no likely chance of parole/release anytime soon, so this is a fair allowance to use non-free. --MASEM (t) 14:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Agree with Masem. – JBarta (talk) 20:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Dimmu Borgir - Abrahadabra (alternative cover).jpg

Restored original cover and orphaned the alternate cover. --Diannaa (talk) 22:09, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Image is used twice in the same article but it only has a fair use rationale for one use. Also, the article claims that the image shows one thing the first time it is used and a different thing the second time it is used, so something is wrong. Stefan2 (talk) 12:54, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

The file link for the first cover in the infobox at Abrahadabra (album) was changed in July 2013 with a very simple edit summary of "file Renamed". This rendered File:Dimmu Borgir Abrahadabra album cover.jpg unused so it was deleted on 4 September 2013. I could image that this edit was made in error, but I've now asked Simeondahl to comment here. Nevertheless should we weigh the benefits of showing two different album covers in this article. Is the alternative cover really so different from the first version that it can't be described in text? Recent consensus seems to be to completely abolish the "alternative cover" option. I could imagine restoring File:Dimmu Borgir Abrahadabra album cover.jpg and deleting the alternative file instead. De728631 (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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The Varsity Polo Match

Images were removed on September 15. --Diannaa (talk) 22:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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I don't see why we need the logos for the clubs in the article about the competition. They seem to violate WP:NFCC#8 here. Stefan2 (talk) 19:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Yup, standard case to remove. We have articles on the clubs themselves so the logos are not needed here (if they are non-free). --MASEM (t) 20:39, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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Checkers, please report orphaned non-free images on original uploader's Talk

Message received and understood --Diannaa (talk) 22:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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I do appreciate being informed of orphaned NF images I originally uploaded, and therefore figuratively shepherd. But when all I've done at an image is to reupload it reduced per WP:NFCC, I'm not the shepherd, just a good Samaritan returning another shepherd's lost sheep (image) to the fold (NFC compliance), so it's not really appropriate to notify (say) me. (Example of good-faith notification: here). When the only upload visible in the thumbnail "File history" section is "reduce per NFCC" (example), it pays to check the "View History" tab at top, to learn the original uploader's identity, to notify them. I've often expressed the need for the notification tools to automatically do this step for orphaned NF image reviewers. Can we get this done, please? Appropriate notification of the correct editor will only help everyone involved. --Lexein (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Fairiz1.jpg

The copy on the Commons was deleted on Sept 27. commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Faizelghussein.jpg. --Diannaa (talk) 22:33, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Commons considers this to be Public Domain. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:07, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Keep as fair use. The rationale at Commons is faulty and I have nominated it for deletion over there. De728631 (talk) 22:20, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Crest of the Prime Minister of Singapore.png

Kept. --Diannaa (talk) 22:37, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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As per Singapore Arms and Flag and National Anthem Rules (Cap. 296, R 1, 2004 Rev. Ed.), reproduction of the official version of the Coat of Arms (COA) is not allowed by non-Government entities. Hence, this Crest, which depicts the official COA (not based on its blazon) of Singapore, is contravening the rules as stated in the above document.

Wikipedia has been using a reproduction of the COA based on its blazon for depiction. Should this file be edited to change the COA depiction, which may cause an inaccurate depiction of the PMO's crest, or should it be deleted in its entirety? Syed ^(talk) 09:45, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

US Fair Use laws allow us to reuse copyrighted works under fair use provisions irregardless of limits the copyright holder may set on them. So there's no impact here. --MASEM (t) 15:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:GNU Radio Logo small.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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This logo may not meet TOO. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Clear case of PD-textlogo. Should be transferred to Commons. De728631 (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:WHK logo.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 17:56, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

agreed. --18:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masem (talk • contribs)

Note that I have moved this and several of the other files below to Commons. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:33, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:98.1 WHK-FM.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:53, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 17:57, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. Unlikely to be eligible for copyright protection. Consisting of typefaces and simple geometric shapes. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 19:29, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

File moved to Commons by Stefan2. Levdr1lp / talk 00:48, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:WKRK-FM logo.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:53, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 18:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

File moved to Commons by Stefan2. Levdr1lp / talk 00:49, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:WAKR logo.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 18:03, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. Just typefaces. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 19:39, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

File moved to Commons by Stefan2. Levdr1lp / talk 00:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:WONE-FM logo.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 18:05, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

File moved to Commons by Stefan2. Levdr1lp / talk 00:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:WERE 1300.png

The file has been deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:56, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Text logo. Levdr1lp / talk 18:18, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

File moved to Commons by Stefan2. Levdr1lp / talk 00:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:NFLonFOX.png

Deleted as F8. --Diannaa (talk) 22:53, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Looks like a PD-textlogo to me. RJaguar3 | u | t 19:17, 6 October 2013 (UTC)----

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