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Ty Cobb with the triple

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Original - Ty Cobb, an early 20th century baseball center fielder who ranks second all-time in career triples, slides safely into third base.
Edit1 by jjron - cropped version to emphasise play and remove some of the dead background
Reason
High resolution and quality image that clearly displays the triple, featuring one of the all time greats at achieving the triple. This is like a photo of Ruth, Aaron, or Bonds hitting a home run, a great doing what he's great at. The previous nomination fell flat due to EV issues, but in discussing this with Durova I pointed out that this isn't a great pure-EV image for just Cobb (although it is valuable in displaying his massive baserunning prowess and speed, it is not a portait) it also displays the triple itself.
Articles this image appears in
Ty Cobb, Triple (baseball), Slide (baseball)
Creator
National Photo Company, edited by Durova
  • Interesting discussion but inconclusive - one knowledgeable editor suggested it was the triple, another that "So as far as we know, it's Cobb stealing third...", and the weight of discussion seemed to feel it was a practice or staged shot (not just due to the empty stands, but due to the stance of the left fielder), though no one was really committed. --jjron (talk) 06:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The main reason given for the renom was that EV was now better because it's illustrating a triple. Well surely if it's not doing this (and at best it seems we're unsure) the reasoning given and the EV isn't that strong? Only after voters are sure about that should they then be evaluating whether it's an FP quality illustration of a triple. --jjron (talk) 08:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe a happier and higher EV home for this could be Slide (baseball)? Ty Cobb actually already gets a mention in that article. --jjron (talk) 08:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is this not superior to some of the current images? I wonder also if this wouldn't benefit from a bit of a crop to focus more on the play - frankly that sky's not doing much for it. --jjron (talk) 08:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was also very suspicious about it being a genuine triple. It just doesn't look like a legitimate game situation, and as mentioned, it doesn't really illustrate a triple at all. It may have been a triple, but it just doesn't illustrate it. The only thing that properly does illustrate it is a video of the entire event from the moment of the pitch onwards, or a diagram. But as far as EV on slide goes, I think it's a pretty good historical example, and IMO the only article that it illustrates significantly enough. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 17:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Shouldn't matter really - Howcheng does a sterling job rewriting the captions for POTD anyway, he doesn't just use what's here, he ensures it makes sense to a general reader. --jjron (talk) 08:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Whether it's an in-game or practice triple it's a triple, and it's a perfect shot of a slide. How exactly else do you propose displaying a triple? As for Cobb, the EV is not as a portrait (for which this image would be less useful, as you say), but for displaying his baserunning ability. That's a minor part of the EV in this new FPC anyways, that's the whole difference from the original. Staxringold talkcontribs 21:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Ty Cobb sliding2-edit1.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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