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Original - Hurricane Jimena as a powerful Category 4 hurricane on August 30, 2009. The storm has a small, well-defined, pinhole eye, a feature of intense tropical cyclones, and large outer bands as well as good outflow. At the time of this image, the hurricane was situated off the western coast of Mexico, seen on the right side of the image, and tracking towards Baja California, seen at the top of the image.
Reason
The image shows an extremely powerful tropical cyclone with classic features. It shows a textbook example of a rapidly intensifying system with a pinhole eye (a pinhole eye being an eye less than 10 nautical miles in diameter).
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2009 Pacific hurricane season and Hurricane Jimena (2009)
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HurricaneSpin (uploaded by) Image produced by NASA
WIAFP #3. MER-C 07:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Detailed Oppose The storm is cropped, particularly the southern/western outflow. The storm itself is also rather ragged, with very broken banding. This is not a prime example of a tropical cyclone, also a further pulled back image would give more of a sense of scale, particularly it should have more of the Baja peninsular, preferably with the connection with mainland mexico further north. It is clear that the argument it not that there are similar images of tropical cyclones, but that there are better images of tropical cyclones. Seddσn talk|WikimediaUK 00:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And.. the image is no longer in use in the article. Seddσn talk|WikimediaUK 01:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. YOU try taking a photo from space, then you can comment on it being framed poorly. There just aren't that many alternitives. Nezzadar (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If we were talking about Mars or another planet, then your argument would stand and if fact I would totally agree with you, as I have before. But it falls apart when we have all of these, and these are just the ones that have been categorised properly. It has a viewing width of 2,330 km and views the entire surface of the Earth every one to two days. It is an almost statistical certainty for a storm to be captured. I think we can be picky with what we can promote or not. There are a swathe of these images so please people, lets start applying better standards than Ooooo they're pretty clouds from space, that'll do. Seddσn talk|WikimediaUK 03:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Seddon. Unless we decide that each storm is sufficiently different than the other tropical storms that each one can have its own FP, so to say, we should really only choose the best of them (of which this is not one, per Seddon). NW (Talk) 03:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, this...
...this...
...this...
...and this all look like the same bird to me.
  • Neutral A very nice photo (after all, GOES is a professional photographer :-D), but for FP I prefer that there be no ambiguity about what the cyclone is (to a non-expert). Here there is a lot of convection and convective debris all around the storm, especially over land, which takes the focus away from the cyclone itself. I like tropical cyclones with a nice moat around them, so it is clear what is the storm and what is not; we can't all be experts in hurricane structure, after all.
As for whether a separate storm is a separate subject as far as FP is concerned, I like the example used above. Two birds look similar: what is preventing them from having their own separate FPs though? We can't use a picture of a raven on the crow page (even if they look the same to the untrained eye) any more than we can use an image of Hurricane Katrina on the article for Hurricane Ike.-RunningOnBrains(talk) 03:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted - no consensus. --jjron (talk) 07:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]