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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 17 Sep 2014 at 19:45:13 (UTC)

Original – The Etchmiadzin Cathedral and the surrounding by French traveler Jean Chardin
ALT CROP
ALT1 - With caption.
Reason
Great EV. Exceptional quality.
Articles in which this image appears
Etchmiadzin Cathedral, Vagharshapat
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Drawings
Creator
Jean Chardin
It looks like this when printed.
  • Comment - the fram has spots and marks .. probably this is why it is cropped. Strictly the frame is not part of the engraving, it is just the paper it is printed on. I recognize this building, even if the presentation doesn't saying it, is considered the oldest cathedral in the world. Hafspajen (talk) 18:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm quite confused over your reasoning behind the oppose vote Belle. For one, the "title" is in a foreign language. Why have it when it can be easily conveyed to the reader in a form of a caption that can be easily translated into English? In fact, I don't see this as a title at any rate. It's more of a caption than anything else. Étienne Dolet (talk) 04:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Call it an aesthetic choice if you wish. Caption, title, it doesn't make much difference; it is part of the engraver's work. Perhaps I'm looking at it from the point of view of featuring the the engraver's work rather than featuring a representation of the cathedral, so that it is not in English doesn't alter my feelings at all; the caption gives it some context. I don't like the tight cropping of plates either, the size of the image in relation to the paper is often an artistic choice too. I'll strike my oppose as I'm on shaky ground with the criteria (woooo, I felt it give a bit then), but I won't support either (so, a wall of text for no discernible change in the nomination's status; good one, Belle). Belle (talk) 08:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personally, I rather keep the captions for images like this, as they are part of the artist's creative endeavour, presentations to viewers and readers. Hence why I haven't !voted here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, without the caption, you're also removing the edges of the image, which means it could never be printed in such a manner that it was at all similar to how engravings are printed - razor-sharp borders are not something seen in engravings. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 19:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]