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- Nominator(s): TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I'm back with another episode list, this one for the Grey's spin-off series Station 19. This is a series that I absolutely adore both for its connection to Grey's Anatomy as well as its storytelling and representation. After an expansion of the lead and a cleanup of templates and sources, I believe that this list is more than comprehensive enough to be added to be featured quality. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
OlifanofmrTennant
[edit]- Production codes unsources. You can usually find them on the WGA website.
- I understand that the ratings graph can only hold up to 100 episodes, but why are the ratings tables split?
- Season headings need prose
- "Station 19 is an American action and procedural drama created by Stacy McKee and based on Grey's Anatomy" As in an adaptation? Clarify that its a spin off
- "who had since been cast in the spin-off as a series regular" wording seems off here
- Private Practice has the years it aired next to it while Grey's Anatomy doenst. Any reason for this?
- Several sources need archiving
That's all I got ping me when done. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:22, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: "based on" was in reference to the actual credit within the show, but given that you weren't the only person it confused, I've clarified this.
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- When you say "Season headings need prose" are you referring to a summary of the season's arcs, similar to what's done with DW articles? This show doesn't exactly follow the same format, its "arcs" can span anywhere from two to three episodes, or often begin in one season and end in another, which makes it harder to summarize in the same format. This series also has a large ensemble cast of 15 members, compared to the 2–5 present at one time in DW, which would quickly turn into excessiveness. I'll also point out that these types of summaries aren't the standard for LoE pages, even FL's which can be seen by a quick glance of similar lists at WP:FL. A few simply list the broadcast dates, but that also feels unnecessary given the series overview and the table itself.
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- As for the ratings graph, you've answered your own question. The table physically won't display if there are more than 100 episodes, and this series has well... 105. It was either split or exclude, wasn't sure which way was better here. IA Bot has also been a bit buggy lately with adding archive links lately, but I confirm that most are in the Wayback machine. I can manually add the remaining if it's a requirement for support, though? TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Are you sure that the ratings table can’t handle 100+ episodes? It works on List of Brooklyn Nine-Nine episodes, which has 150+, just fine. As for the prose I think was thinking something similar to the B99 list or List of Community episodes but since it’s not the standard I won’t oppose over it. And yes do archive the remaining refs manually Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 10:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Apologies, I meant to say that the graph won't display if there's over 100. The purpose of {{Television ratings graph}} existing (to me anyways) is the graph. The ratings already exist in the episode table, so if only the table was to be displayed, I'd just remove the second template altogether for duplication of information. So to get the graph to display, I had to split in two. Everything has archive links now. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:26, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Are you sure that the ratings table can’t handle 100+ episodes? It works on List of Brooklyn Nine-Nine episodes, which has 150+, just fine. As for the prose I think was thinking something similar to the B99 list or List of Community episodes but since it’s not the standard I won’t oppose over it. And yes do archive the remaining refs manually Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 10:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- As for the ratings graph, you've answered your own question. The table physically won't display if there are more than 100 episodes, and this series has well... 105. It was either split or exclude, wasn't sure which way was better here. IA Bot has also been a bit buggy lately with adding archive links lately, but I confirm that most are in the Wayback machine. I can manually add the remaining if it's a requirement for support, though? TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "based on Grey's Anatomy," - I don't think it's really "based on" it, as that would suggest it is a remake of Grey's
- "were also held as mid-seasons replacements" => "were also held as mid-season replacements"
- "Its premise was first introduced trough" - last word is spelt wrong
- "Stefania Spampinato also stars as Dr. Carina DeLuca, who was also first introduced in Grey's Anatomy" - I would move this to before "the remainder". it feels a bit odd to list the rest of the initial cast, then mention people who joined later, and then randomly mention Spampinato
- "Rhimes production company." => "Rhimes' production company."
- "Rhimes as showrunners, the two had also been co-showrunners on Grey's Anatomy" - comma should be a semi-colon
- "Vernoff was also overseeing production Grey's Anatomy" => "Vernoff was also overseeing production of Grey's Anatomy"
- That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: As I noted above "based on" is what one of the actual credits within each episode reads, but given the confusion I've clarified. Everything else has been addressed! TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
History6042
[edit]- "as mid-seasons replacements." -> "as mid-season replacements."
- "was first introduced trough" -> "was first introduced through"
- "overseeing production Grey's Anatomy." -> "overseeing the production of Grey's Anatomy."
- In the series overview section the viewer count should be made into US viewer count as that is the metric for every other table
- "over seven seasons, between March 22, 2018" doesn't need a comma.
- "March 22, 2018, and May 30, 2024." doesn't need a comma.
- If these are fixed then I can support on prose and grammar. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: Addressed everything other the last two, per MOS:DATERANGE "
Dates in month–day–year format require a comma after the day, as well as after the year, unless followed by other punctuation
" which is the case here. This comma format is also built into the {{Aired episodes}} template and applies automatically, it's essentially used on every Wikipedia List of Episode page I've come across, including other featured lists. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)- @History6042: The last three have actually been semi-addressed because that template has been removed per the below comment. That said, all of your concerns have been addressed. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support then. 12:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC) History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- A bit more;
- In the Prod. code section headers, is there a way to make the inline citations not have a white box around them, I am not sure its ideal to fix it however?
- In the Seasons 5–7 section the reds are very similar, should one be changed to a different color?
- In Series overview, Average U.S. viewership (in millions), has an in before millions but nowhere else does, this should be fixed. History6042😊 (Contact me) 03:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: I've updated the series overview and the color for season 7. Unfortunately there's not a way to remove the white box, this is built into the template for accessibility reasons. Because the citation text is blue rather than black/white, the white box aids in readability against certain background colors. This is why some tables have the white box and others do not. TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- A bit more;
- Support then. 12:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC) History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: The last three have actually been semi-addressed because that template has been removed per the below comment. That said, all of your concerns have been addressed. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: Addressed everything other the last two, per MOS:DATERANGE "
Comments by RunningTiger123
[edit]- The WGA has a different production order than currently listed from The Futon Critic, and I'm not sure which is accurate. Might be better to omit that column entirely for now (if it just matches the broadcast order, it's pretty redundant).
- If The Futon Critic links remain, give the references in each table the same name so they will combine correctly. You just need to make sure the references match exactly to avoid an error (see H:CERDK).
- "airing on the American Broadcasting Company" sounds clunky – perhaps "aired by the American Broadcasting Company"? (could just be me)
- "the ninth entry in Shondaland" – this isn't a shared universe, so "entry" isn't a good word; just say something like "the ninth series produced by Shondaland"
- Last paragraph in the lead is unnecessary; just add the only new detail (105 episodes total) somewhere else and cut that sentence
- Show titles in "Main article" links should be un-italicized (WP:ITHAT)
- Are episodes named after songs? I couldn't find a source confirming that, but it sure seems like they are – might be a nice detail for the lead (only if you can find a source).
- 1x02: "to" should be lowercase
- 2x16: "the" should be lowercase
- 6x14: "It" should be capitalized
- 7x06: "Of" should be capitalized
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 06:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RunningTiger123: I compared WGA and TFC side by side for all 105, it appears that the production codes were actually the same, but that whoever originally built the templates didn't input the information correctly. The only discrepancy I found was in season 4 between episodes 11 and 14. That has been rectified.
- Everything else has been addressed. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:43, 2 February 2025 (UTC)