Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of IIHF World Under-20 Championship players for Canada/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 14:00, 3 February 2010 [1].
- Nominator(s): Scorpion0422 01:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Oh boy, my first nomination since August. For those of you who may have forgotten me, I'm that guy that used to hang around here and occasionally nominate lists. This list is largely modeled after the List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Canada and List of Men's World Ice Hockey Championship players for Canada (1977–present) (though it's more similar to the former, because it does not use the medal tally system used in the latter). This page might just be the most work I've ever done for a list, so enjoy. -- Scorpion0422 01:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments - bit too long buddy, scared off even our regulars! I'll need to do this review a bit at a time if that's okay... Lead first. Ping me when you're ready to move on!
The Rambling Man (talk) 19:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, so onto the table...
The Rambling Man (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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Still a lot of images without alt text. I'll leave it to others to decide if the list should be promoted as-is. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
Support – All looks good to go now. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Staxringold talkcontribs 23:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments Ah, a sports list, something I feel like I can talk about.
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- Support I would ref the lead a bit differently, but it's a style choice. Staxringold talkcontribs 23:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Harrias (talk) 17:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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- None of the images have alt text, which is a requirement per WP:ALT.
- I'm going to say right now that I will not be adding alt text. It will be a waste of my time, and it will add thousands of bytes to an already huge page. I've always found that guideline horrible, and I don't see how it helps out in a list like this. Each one would be along the lines of "an ice hockey player wearing a red jersey and holding a stick while on ice", and how does that help people who are unable to see the image, given that there are dozens of them? Of course there's going to be pictures of players, what else would there be?
- I will try to take care of the alt text when I get the time. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:34, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No, please don't waste your time doing it. -- Scorpion0422 05:48, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- You can't just pick and choose the guidelines you follow. Featured content requires images to have alt text, and besides that, it's common courtesy to those accessing wikipedia with a screen readers; would you want to hear "Link image colon Theodore zero one two seven zero nine dot jee pee gee"? Harrias (talk) 10:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Too late, already done. It didn't take that long. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This is the first, and hopefully last, time I am ever going to point to this guideline, but we are allowed to ignore all rules. In this case, I feel that the alt text adds a lot of unnecessary bytes to the article and gives very little in return, which is why I am against it. If we were talking about one or two images, then okay (I would still find it pointless, but whatever), but we're talking about dozens of images in an already very large list. -- Scorpion0422 00:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Too late, already done. It didn't take that long. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- You can't just pick and choose the guidelines you follow. Featured content requires images to have alt text, and besides that, it's common courtesy to those accessing wikipedia with a screen readers; would you want to hear "Link image colon Theodore zero one two seven zero nine dot jee pee gee"? Harrias (talk) 10:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No, please don't waste your time doing it. -- Scorpion0422 05:48, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I will try to take care of the alt text when I get the time. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:34, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going to say right now that I will not be adding alt text. It will be a waste of my time, and it will add thousands of bytes to an already huge page. I've always found that guideline horrible, and I don't see how it helps out in a list like this. Each one would be along the lines of "an ice hockey player wearing a red jersey and holding a stick while on ice", and how does that help people who are unable to see the image, given that there are dozens of them? Of course there's going to be pictures of players, what else would there be?
- All in all, it looks a very good list, and while there seem to be a fair few issues listed here, considering the size of the list, that's to be expected. Definitely worthy of FL in my opinion, once these issues have been cleared up. Harrias (talk) 11:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion0422 00:42, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, nice list, good work! Harrias (talk) 17:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion0422 00:42, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I figured after adding alt text to all the images and looking at the list several times there was no way I could remain neutral. This is good stuff, and the list meets the FL criteria. Also, I made a few copy-edits to the lead for redundancy, flow, grammar and MOS compliance, so you may want to check over them. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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