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- Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
I'm excited to say this is Olympic medal table #9 for me (Summer Games nom #6). It's a relatively short nom, but it's interesting in that 12 countries participated for the first name and it was the first time the Chinese NOC competed as the People's Republic of China. As always, I will do my best to respond to all comments as quickly as possible, and I appreciate any and all feedback that is given. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- I would be tempted to join the final one-sentence paragraph of the lead to the one before
- That's it, I think - great work as ever!! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- I felt mixed about it, but I said screw it and went ahead and did it. In a way I liked them split because one was about the countries who had success and the following was about the people who had success. But a single sentence shouldn't necessarily be its own paragraph. Sorry for the delay in replying, accidently cleared my watchlist I think. Thanks for the review @ChrisTheDude! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:11, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:24, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]- File:Nina Ponomaryova 1960.jpg - Public Domain
- File:Asnoldo Devonish 1952 Helsinki.png - Public Domain, source link needs to be fixed.
- Both images have alt text, suitable captions, and are relevant to the article.
- Here are my comments! Arconning (talk) 14:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- What if the source link cannot be fixed because it's gone offline and the archives don't seem to have properly grabbed the picture @Arconning? Pinging uploader @Kingsif. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Using the archive link should still be acceptable, there’s enough documentation to say the image was there. As I understand it, the only issue as it is for the original link being dead would be WP:V, so effective proof that the link existed is good. Otherwise, you’re looking for an alternative source altogether. Kingsif (talk) 14:28, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, considering archive links have enough documentation that say the image was there... I'll support based on image review. Arconning (talk) 10:32, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Using the archive link should still be acceptable, there’s enough documentation to say the image was there. As I understand it, the only issue as it is for the original link being dead would be WP:V, so effective proof that the link existed is good. Otherwise, you’re looking for an alternative source altogether. Kingsif (talk) 14:28, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
Source review from Octave
[edit]Reviewed special:diff/1274315826
Reliability – one question
- Britannica articles are used appropriately (Netherlands Antilles in particular seems to be written by SMEs)
- Wondering if there's a better source than one via the China Internet Information Center, a state-controlled media outlet
- Other source reliability looks fine
Formatting consistency – clear
- I believe it's all good here, kudos
Other comments – couple comments
- Could do with page numbers for the Olympic factsheets?
- Ref 2: include author
- Ref 8: include authors
- Ref 14: incorrect date
- Ref 17: drop "Factsheet" like you do in other factsheet references
- Ref 18: if kept, should probably mention it's via China Internet Information Center
- Ref 19: link Pacific Affairs; specify "Autumn 1985"; would like a more precise page number, 17 pages is a substantial range
- Ref 27: byline date says a different date; link William Grimes (journalist)
Spotchecks – 25% of sources (round up to 10),
- Ref 1: pass
- Ref 5: pass
- Ref 9: pass
- Ref 10: pass
- Ref 17: "including the Olympic debut of women's gymnastics events", unless I'm missing something, women's artistic gymnastics debuted at the 1928 Summer Olympics
- Ref 23: pass
- Ref 26: pass
- Ref 31: pass
- Ref 34: pass
- Ref 35: pass
Thoughts
- Just a few comments above, nothing major. Nice work Josh. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 21:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @UpTheOctave!, I've addressed all of your points, and the only ones I think I need to reply directly to are the following:
Ref 17: "including the Olympic debut of women's gymnastics events", unless I'm missing something, women's artistic gymnastics debuted at the 1928 Summer Olympics
– After rereading and looking into it, the it was women's individual events that were introduced at the 1952 games, whereas previously it was only the all-around event for women. A breakdown of events by year can be viewed Gymnastics at the Summer Olympics#Women's events. What's now ref 16 also reflects this, by sayingIn gymnastics, individual events for women were introduced.
– I clearly misunderstood this mention.Wondering if there's a better source than one via the China Internet Information Center, a state-controlled media outlet
– I struggled, a lot, with the situation and wording where I used this source. It was surprisingly neutral for the bit that I used it for, and substantiated by other sources, but it would have required 3-4 sources for the information I used in one source by using this one.
- Thanks so much for the quality source review! I always enjoy when you give source reviews at WP:FLC and I hope that you continue to do so :) Please let me know if I've missed anything or if you've seen anything more. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:55, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think I'm happy to sign off on this given your explanations: pass for source review. Nice work Josh. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 20:20, 8 February 2025 (UTC)