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Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHEMT)
CONTESTED EDIT (Article Talk Page):
23:32, 31 March 2010 – Uikku
Section: Notability, single-source, and potential conflict of interest
Hello Fellow Editor,
Hopefully we are not at an impasse. And my communication (written words) is being presented in a “friendly” manner (WP: EQ).
Uikku (maybe others too) you asked “Why?”
ANSWER is at WP:UP
“...helping other Editors to interact with and understand those with whom they are working.”
ANSWER is at WP:TPG
“Keep on topic: The Article Talk Pages are for discussing the Article, not for general conversation about the Article’s subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions on the topic of how to improve the associated Article.
Therefore, the proper discussion area for the “side-issue” (persuasive arguments) between Jagerman and Skyeking is at their USER Talk Pages. In addition Uikku, if you (and others) desire further discussion about your “Why?” question then said discussion will take place here on your USER Talk Page ––– not at the VHEMT Article Talk Page. Otherwise, is Wikipedia Violation.
Once again, my hope is that we are not at an impasse, and that as responsible Editors we can reach an understanding.
Wiki Regards,
Skyeking
(WP: EQ)
P.S.
Please respond at my User Talk Page within 72-hours. If you don’t, I will assume you are in agreement with me. In addition, regarding your contested edit, I will consider it a “Reference Point” (Uikku USER Talk Page) to others who may have the same “Why?” question – thereby preventing discussion of the “Why?” at the Article Talk Page. Skyeking (talk) 02:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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What's up with posting to my talk page and then deleting it? You wrote:
Actually my intention was that someone like you would point that the method (naskh) is not really cherry picking but vice versa. It is really a method to reject cherry picking. It makes reading Quran easier for a muslim and a non-muslim, but one must know its existence and importance. So I thank you for pointing that. I also wanted to point that Spencer had enough discipline to use that same naskh because correct reading of Quran is based on that. That means his method was not cherry picking. --Uikku (talk) 06:05, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yet naskh (or 'nasikh', I've most often heard the term pronounced this way) was not at all what I was referring to. What I did refer to is described in detail in a discussion in the talk archives of his page, as well as the discussion on why he is not a reliable source, which offers numerous instances of Spencer intentionally overlook or downplaying one ayat and emphasizing another. For this reason, I don't think that his "readings" of the Qur'an are "correct" at all. In those prior discussions I referred you to, not only are such claims scrutinized, but also his claims that "all of the major scholars" and schools of Islamic law support his particular narrative. The simple fact is, they don't.
Note that I've been recently debating with Davidelah regarding Bernard Lewis. Lewis has taken exception to the polemics of people like Spencer, and he also cites sources and references to support his argument. Lewis is certainly no shrinking violet when it comes to criticism, and his academic record as an expert is, especially in comparison to someone like Spencer, undeniably sound.
So it begs the question as to why and under what standards anyone would consider Spencer an "reliable expert". It is one thing to engage in cogent criticism resulting from an objective, careful study: it is quote another to be a fountain of reactionary sectarian polemics. As someone who has studied the requisite languages and worked in the field now for 25 years, I can tell you with full confidence that Spencer is quite obviously engaging in the latter.Jemiljan (talk) 17:31, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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