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I wanted to protest the deletion of the Mackintosh Muggleton page. This is the reason it was deleted. This actor has exactly one role ever and the film was only released a month ago. It doesn't seem like he's a star of the film. I think this needs more time for him to become notable (i.e. more parts or coverage). Metros 03:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to go into details, he is the star and is going to be in the movie 28 months later. Aside from that I can understand why his page would be deleted, he hasn't made a dent in the media. I would just prefer the reason that his (or anyones really) page was removed is because of his lack of roles, not because of a misconception of his role. L4nce 05:51, 20 July 2007 (UTC) L4nce[reply]

Yup, I want it on BJAODN so bad! But just listing the content there isn't allowed, the edit summary must be maintained to make it comply with GFDL. So can you please restore it for a second and move it to Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense/Pokemon Flynon version? (Then delete the mainspace redirect, of course.) Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (PokéNav|Trainer Card) 06:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --The Raven's Apprentice (PokéNav|Trainer Card) 07:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

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Hi Singularity. Thank you for your support and kind words in my RfA, which passed with 95 support, 1 oppose, and 1 neutral !votes. It means a lot to me to have your individual support and the collective support of so many others. I truly will strive to carry myself at a level representing the trust bestowed in me as I use the mop to address the never-ending drips of discontent in need of caretaker assistance.

Jreferee (Talk) 07:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

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I know you'r probably thinking I'm constantly leaving messages here but.....

The Working Man's Barnstar
I, The Sunshine Man award you Sr13 this barnstar for your accurate and extremely helpful closes of AfD nominations, you close loads every day — what would we do without you. The Sunshine Man 10:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome. The Sunshine Man is now Qst 17:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I confess I am very confused... I wrote an article on Online Property Management Software based on web software questions I receive from clients. The article has been deleted. I am more then happy to rewrite it so it conforms to appropriate standards.

Please let me know how I can proceed in doing that. I am new at this - and trying to make sure it gets done well. Thank you.

Question - how does my article get removed when something like this http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Propertyware which is obviously an advertisement remain?

Melissa

Sock Puppet

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It said they were a sock puppet on their user page. [1]--Bryson 15:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No reply, not very professional. Don’t bother to reply now.--Bryson 22:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

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You closed the Ron Hutchinson AfD but you haven't deleted the article. Darrenhusted 15:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Sr13 17:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers. Darrenhusted 10:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

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Thank you for participating in my RfA. It was successful, and I am now, may God have mercy on us all, an administrator. Look at all the new buttons! I had heard about 'protect,' 'block user,' and 'delete,' but no one told me about 'kill,' 'eject,' and 'purée.' I appreciate the trust the community has in me, and I'll try hard not to delete the main page or block Jimbo. -FisherQueen (Talk) 18:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Benoit

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Actually, I couldn't care less about writing that article; I just noted my interest in it so that in case Thespian couldn't do it for some reason, I'd cover it; on high-profile issues including deaths and legal issues, I prefer that myself, Michael or another trusted user (yourself included) handles the story. In other words, I did it so some WWE newbie didn't write a horribly POV article :) Ral315 » 01:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My recent RfB

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Thank you so much for your participation in my recent RfB. Though it closed with 72% support (below the required 90%), I'm still quite pleased at the outpouring of support shown by a fair percentage of the community.

I'm currently tabulating and calculating all opposing and neutral arguments to help me better address the community's concerns about my abilities as a bureaucrat. If you'd like, you can follow my progress (and/or provide additional suggestions) at User:EVula/admin/RfB notes. Thanks again! EVula // talk // // 04:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request

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Hi Sr, a while back you kindly deleted Lynotic while performing your janitorial administrative :) duties. I was wondering if you could temporarily undelete Talk:Lynotic and move it to Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Lynotic (and then re-delete Talk:Lynotic). The reason for this request is that the discussion at that page was relevant to the article's deletion and the edit history contained some evidence of possible sockpuppetry. Thanks, Pan Dan 13:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Staringdownsun.jpg

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Hello. Could you please explain why you decided to keep Image:Staringdownsun.jpg and not delete it? You said "i find the summary sufficient to not delete the image" but I can find no argument anywhere of why we should keep this image. Doesn't it fail example of unacceptable use #8? —Remember the dot (talk) 02:23, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll delete it, since no one has come up with anything reasonable to keep it in the last month. Thanks for the heads up. Sr13 05:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phroth

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The editorial board of Phroth Magazine has concerns about the removal of our article entitled "Phroth" on Wikipedia. The talk page calls into the question the significance of the group. In reality, Phroth is the longest running publication of Pennsylvania State University, among the world's largest, and the magazine is about to celebrate its centennial anniversary. At one time, the magazine was published and distributed to tens of thousands of subscribers across the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and therefore we have a large and loyal fanbase that appeals to a wide audience (including alumni). Due to its prolonged establishment and its continuing commitment to satire writing, I urge you to reinstate our article. Please contact me directly at jdb5120 [at] psu (dot) edu

68.110.213.229 05:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Jacob Budin [reply]

Thanks...

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...for the very speedy turnaround on my deletion requests. Tualha (Talk) 17:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to WikiProject France

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Welcome Singularity, to WikiProject France! Please direct any questions about the project to its talk page. If you create new articles on France-related topics, please list them at our announcement page and tag their talk page with our project template, {{WikiProject France}}.

A few features that you might find helpful:

  • The project's Navigation box points to most of the pages in the project that might be of use to you.
  • Most of the important discussions related to the project take place on the project's main talk page; you may find it useful to watchlist it.
  • We've developed a number of guidelines for names, titles, and other things to standardize our articles and make interlinking easier that you may find useful.
Wikipedia:France-related tasks
vieweditdiscusshistorywatch

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me or any of the more experienced members of the project, and we'll be very happy to help you. Again, welcome, and thank you for joining this project!

--STTW (talk) 15:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category Deletion

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Thanks for deleting my spelling mistake, however do you know why it is still showing up (along with my correct category spelling) as a subcategory of Category:Privately held companies? Jauerback 17:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. It went away. Jauerback 17:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

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Yep thanks for helping me resolve that weird edit and tagging on the user page (unique vandalism technique i guess), and offering to speaking to that guy (whose userpage user boxes also seem to be copied from mine) =p.

-Advanced 06:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping out on the clerking here. Just one thing - I have long been worried about editcountitis creeping in to that process - the generally idea is that any user should be able to request a rename regardless of their edit count. Clearly if they have never edited or only vandalised that's one thing, but the crats have on several occasions rejected any stricter criteria. In particular where usernames are created with typos/wrong capitalisation, the user creation software won't allow a new account (as its name will be too similar to an existing account) making renames the only option for those users. Bear in mind that renaming users with very few edits puts very little load on the servers (think of it like deleting articles creating a load equivalent to the number of revisions) so the sooner renames are done, the better from the server's point of view. Doing these requests is a good way to be friendly to new users and objecting on low edit count grounds can be a little bite-y. It doesn't really take crats any more time to do the requests than to reject them. Anyway, just my thought on the matter... WjBscribe 10:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Punktastic Recordings

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This was closed by you as delete, but the article exists. John Vandenberg 11:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clerking at WP:CHU

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Hi SR13, Your helping out at WP:CHU is most welcome, but I think it would be halpful if you bone up on policy a bit more before engaging the requesters. Perhaps you could run some of your questions past WjBscribe. Thanks, Cecropia 20:37, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I rushed on those requests; I'll forward any queries when necessary. Sr13 20:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no political expert so can you check out Roland Aranjo? It seems to be written by the person himself so I put a {{coi}} on it and notified him about it, but now I'm wondering if this isn't just pure promotional stuff. -WarthogDemon 21:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. :) I was a bit unsure at first so decided to play it safe, but then I checked around, notice all links to his page were ones he made, and started getting suspicious. I should probably look at legit political articles so I know better next time something comes along. Anyways, thanks again! -WarthogDemon 21:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

left handers article....

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May I ask why you deleted the article on the list of famous left handers? Tcshack07 01:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Tcshack07[reply]

Will do!

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Thanks for the tip ... I'm new at this, as you probably noticed. Daniel Case 00:31, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hull City articles for deletion

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hull City A.F.C. Reserves

The page Hull City A.F.C. staff wants deleting too. Thanks, Beve 08:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Sr13 08:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request: Undelete Timway

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      • Hong Kong University of Science and Technology: Timway is one of the selected subject directory/searchable directory as mentioned by the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Library webpage. http://library.ust.hk/guides/effective-web.html
    • 2. Timway's (domain name was hksrch.com) early start of its history in 1997 July marked a very important/significant milestone for the establishment of Hong Kong searchable directory or search engine that is much earlier than Yahoo! Hong Kong. (started in 1999) http://hk.yahoo.com/beginner/yhk.html
      • Timway.com was founded in 1997 and the previous domain name of it is hksrch.com for Hong Kong people searching information in HK. As you can see in the domain name registration, it is first created on 1997 Sep for the domain name. With regard to the very difficult spelling of hksrch.com, the domain name has been changed to timway.com in 1999. With its 10 years of presence in HK and many people using it, (The Alexa ranking of it is 3341, http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=timway&url=http://www.timway.com/). The presence of it is very valuable to a lot of Internet users.


Algorithms8 07:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Undelete Request Timway: An editor has asked for a deletion review of Timway. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Algorithms8 09:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of Timway. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Algorithms8 09:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ViaViente Content Deletions

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Could you please write on the talk page on the article what your motivations were for deleting the content. I don't understand the reasons for some of the deletions you made. Thanks Arnabdas 18:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me, but I still don't understand your motivation for deleting the contents that were sourced, such as ingredients, formulation and other users. To rephrase, why specifically did you do it? Arnabdas 21:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request

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You deleted the article "List of famous left-handed people" citing that the article simply contained a redirect. While that may have been all you saw on the page, in previous edits this was actually a well-developed page with a very contentious request for deletion that resulted in no consensus (and requested the page not be deleted). Can you reinstate this page please? It was one of the more comprehensive lists of left-handers on the internet and was sorted by category of accomplishment. Pianofan2 20:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I see the second request now, but this seems to me to be an inside delete request -- look at the first nomination to see how contentious it was. It seems to me that it is unlikely that a page would go from a neutral split with 20-30 voters to unanimous delete in a matter of months...Pianofan2 20:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Darius J Pearce. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. RichardColgate 00:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Darius J Pearce (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)

Once again the leader of one of Jersey's two political parties has had his page removed by the secretary of the other Jersey political party. Can we please have a deletion debate started on non party political grounds. As to sockpuppetry, I would like to see the proof. Just because we know each other there is something wrong with this, Jersey is a small place with a low population. User DaveRotherham regularly updates pages for members of his political party three votes all by members of the same political party? RichardColgate 00:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. apologies for restarting the page I was unsure of how deletion review worked. RichardColgate 00:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iam gathering a growing pile of evidence against Richard Colgate. If you look up Colgate's own edit of the Centre Party(Jersey) entry, you will find the leader to be one Roger Benest, actually. It is not once again, it is once, after discussion on talk page. I am very curious as to what he means by 3 votes all by members of same party; the only example I can think of is Darius , Richard - if he exists - and Cathy, from the CP(J). Where's HIS evidence if he is accusing me of underhand conduct?Daverotherham 20:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfB

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Thank you, Sr13, for participating in my RfB, which ended unsuccessfully with a final tally of (80/22/3).
I shall continue to work on behalf of the community's interests and improve according to your suggestions.
Most sincere regards, Húsönd 23:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Obrigado, Sr13, por participares no meu RfB, que terminou sem sucesso com um resultado final de (80/22/3).
Continuarei a trabalhar em prol dos interesses da comunidade e a melhorar segundo vossas sugestões. Calorosos cumprimentos, Húsönd 23:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks • Obrigado • Gracias • Merci • Danke • Спасибо • Tack • Kiitos
Esker • Köszönöm • Takk • Grazie • Hvala • ありがとう • 謝謝 • 谢谢

Can you please protect the page to protect the redirect which was endorsed by the recent AFD? Corpx

I don't remember any protection being endorsed, and I don't see why it needs to be protected. Sr13 16:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beaumont College

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Many thanks for your offer on this. Would you be able to let me know when you have done it?

Deipnosophista 11:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit

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Hi, you closed the DRV of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit with the reason "Keep endorsed. No procedural problems, no objections during the AFD. DRV is not an extended AfD.". However, my objection is not whether the article should be kept (that is for AfD) but that the AfD was closed early, out of process. The AfD was non-admin closed less than 24 hours after the start - insufficient time for a full discussion - which is a procedural problem and without the extensive support needed for WP:SNOW. You also say "no objections during the AFD" - sure but the AfD ran for less than 1 day not 5 days. I should be grateful if you would be good enough to revisit your DRV close decision. Bridgeplayer 16:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Half-closed AfD

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You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about war as delete. It appears the nominator also wished to include List of songs about nuclear war. I can see how you missed it. No reason for its deletion was given in the nomination nor mentioned in the debate. I'd be happy to see the "nuclear war" list have its own AfD, but it really is your place to act here. Regards, -MrFizyx 20:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC) [reply]

  • Why did you choose to delete the DaxFlame page? You didn't give any explanation on the deletion log. I added at least two reliable sources to the article, which was the original reason to nominate it for deletion, and at the same time the sources prove the notability. Please explain. — Slaapwel 06:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's been more than 5 days for the second afd for Daxflame now. When will there be an outcome? Do you decide again or is it another admin? Thanks. — Slaapwel 18:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was looking for a prettier way to do this, but I'm not very artistic, so I'll just say thank you for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. I look forward to serving the community in a new way. Take care! -- But|seriously|folks  08:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sr13! You closed the AfD as Delete, but the article is still there. EdJohnston 15:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, did I? Deleted. Sr13 16:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SLG

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  1. Please do not. In fact, don't mention it at all.
  2. I wouldn't do a story on the SLG. I think the SLG will sometime soon be deleted at MfD as hopelessly pointless. -- Y not? 17:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, I had the idea for usurping a single-letter username first. Teckwiz did not start the trend. -- Y not? 17:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hello goodbye the band

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I recently was informed that our page http://en.wiki.x.io/wik/Hello_Goodbye_the_band was deleted on July 5, 2007 and I would like to contest the deletion since there are other Beatle tribute bands listed with no more or less credibility than our aggregation; in particular 1964 the tribute & Blue Meanies. As far as "notability", since it's inception seven years ago Hello Goodbye has performed to standing room only attendances in the state of Florida thus gaining the act the moniker "Florida's premier musical tribute to The Beatles" as well as performing for over 800,000 live on one night (and over 1 million via TV simulcast on WSVN TV FOX AFFILIATE MIAMI) for the International Boat Show sponsored by Nokea, which is probably more than any other Beatle tribute has ever performed for in a single night (including all of the Beatle festivals worldwide). The band has also been featured in various publications, most notably & prominently in the recently published "All You Need Is Love To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - How The Beatles and U2 Changed The World" written by Todd McFliker (http://www.creativejournalist.com) and published by Continuum Press (http://www.continuumbooks.com/Books/detail.aspx?ReturnURL=/Search/default.aspx&CountryID=2&ImprintID=2&BookID=129768) in Chapter 10 "The Tribute Bands" pages 105, 106, 107 & 108.


I believe that the article was deleted in error and should be reinstated. Ringobongo 01:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Code2000

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You recently deleted Code2000 based on an AfD. Unfortunately, the people who would have supported keeping were unaware of the proposed deletion; all the comments are dated June 22. (It's not the sort of article we would think to put on a watchlist!) The many links to this article show that this font is extremely notable, and is referenced — in fact, vital — all over Wikipedia. In particular, we depend on it heavily for the mathematics project. There is at this time no other font that would be even close to an adequate substitute in covering mathematics characters. (Alternatives like Arial Unicode MS and Lucida Sans Unicode are not widely available and have less coverage.) Please undelete the article immediately, and if you have further doubts, ask at WT:WPM. Thanks. --KSmrqT 05:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have been logged in and active since I posted my request, yet I have not had the courtesy of a response. As I ask again, I point out that we have 75 links to Code2000, which this deletion has broken. I would like to give you the opportunity to fix this yourself. Regardless of whether you think the deletion was appropriate, I ask that you respond. --KSmrqT 23:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(moved reply back here to keep thread together --KSmrq)
Sorry that I haven't gottten back to you; its not that I didn't want to respond; I probably forgot to respond to your query. Apologies.
Anyway, my best advice to you is to take the article to deletion review. I don't want to restore the article immediately; that would be out of process. If you can solve the problems at the AfD (which I still stand by as a legitimate closure) and present that at DRV, there may be a chance that the article can be undeleted. Sr13 07:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting back to me. Protocol and courtesy both pushed me to contact you first, as the closer. Certainly, based solely on the comments at the AfD (and not checking links or the web), deletion must have seemed uncontroversial. I was simply hoping that based on this new information you could immediately undelete and let more interested parties have a say. Otherwise I would have gone straight to DRV. There is really no question the article should be restored; the claim of lack of notability was based purely on ignorance, which we can easily remedy. Thanks for your time. --KSmrqT 11:24, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Code2000. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --KSmrqT 04:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need Help A Little

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Do you know how to make a deletion review? I tried to start one for Loserz but am having a difficult time of it. -WarthogDemon 03:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, it's been made. Sorry. -WarthogDemon 03:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Closing AfDs

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Hi, Sr13. Just wanted to ask you to remember to always make sure you close AfDs when you delete the articles. Most recently you forgot to close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marty Griffin; I've also noticed this yesterday and a couple of times before that too. :-) Thanks, Anas talk? 16:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why was it deleted? Who requested the merge? Whats going on? :D -- Cat chi? 22:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Very sorry about that, Cat. Template histories are merged now. Sr13 03:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all. :) -- Cat chi? 08:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Asif Mengal

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Hi, this article was significantly expanded after the other members participated in the Afd. Another nom of Mengal by the same person was quickly demonstrated to be incorrect, and I have provided evidence that there is at least one notable person by this name; there is a small chance that the article's references are talking about two different people of the same name (see my talk), but if they are two different people, they are each reasonably notable. If you can undelete this, I will work on a merge to a new article about the jirga, which I have been attempting to work out; see [2]. Alternatively, could you undelete it to User:Jayvdb/Saved_pages/Asif Mengal. Thanks, John Vandenberg 04:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

JasperReports

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Hi, I have an article with a bit of history that I need advice about. JasperReports went through CSD-DRV-AFD cycle late last year which resulted in a delete, probably because I lost touch with the processes over the festive period. The outcome of the Afd has been enforced since then[3] and I suspect the current article will be deleted soon for similar reasons. I have worked on my own copy of this article User:Jayvdb/Saved pages/JasperReports to a reasonable state, and ideally I would like to see the history of the article merged with the deleted copy that I used as the starting point of my copy. Does this need a DRV in order to ensure it is kept? Is it possible to do a three way history merge (old, mine, current)? John Vandenberg 08:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Is there anything useful on the deleted Talk:JasperReports? John Vandenberg 00:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another World opening sequence

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You closed the AFD as a delete, but didnt delete the article :) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Another World opening sequence Corpx 04:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

touching base

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How are things going with the Magic the Gathering case? Be well! Vassyana 06:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

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The Great Firewall of China is letting wp through somehow, so, I'm back to editing. -=Elfin=-341 08:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy.

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It's 4 PM here. Today's the 17th. -=Elfin=-341 08:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

County

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Starting editing on Jianhu County, as that's where I am now.

Know any wikiboxes for administrative districts/places?

That's the third time today I forgot to sign my name. -=Elfin=-341 08:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The String Quartet Tribute to Gwen Stefani was an AfD for two articles, The String Quartet Tribute to Gwen Stefani and Gwen Stefani: A Piano Tribute, but you only redirected the first. Did you forget to delete the second? 17Drew 14:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review DaxFlame

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of DaxFlame. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Even though it probably concerns the second AfD more, I still thought I might post this here as well. — Slaapwel 02:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]