User talk:ShreddedLettuce
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Welcome! and Ashley Kaltwasser
[edit]Welcome to Wikipedia! I see you created Ashley Kaltwasser not long ago - thank you! I added a free image to it. I notice User:Lord Bolingbroke trimmed some promotional language, but I think more needs to be done. I see you've completed the "Neutral Point of View" lesson, but a sentence like "Eventually, encouraged by her former high school coach, Kaltwasser found her passion in physique competitions, carrying her competitive spirit into the world of fitness." is just a bit too poetic for an encyclopedia. "Found her passion" and "competitive spirit" are not only debatable but also don't really convey facts. We want "just the facts, ma'am", as Joe Friday would have it. I'd also recommend broadening the scope of the article beyond her bikini competition achievements, for example including the information from https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/2014/01/29/suddenly-ms-olympia/39920709007/ It's a mainstream media source, which always works better than specialty sources, and it has some lovely little bits, about her track achievements, the college she went to, that she changed her hair color from blonde(!). There are other mainstream media sources that can be found on Newspapers.com. It's a lovely article, and I'd love to keep it, but I'm afraid as it stands, it has some danger of being nominated for deletion for lacking sources and being promotional. It might not be, and I hope it isn't, but if that happens, post on my user talk page, and I'll try to help save it. --GRuban (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I’ll take another pass at an edit and clean up the language. I personally wouldn’t consider those sources too niche or disreputable given how large the sport has gotten, but I’ll take a look. Many of those citations came from the official regulating body of the sport (NPC). 99.120.152.162 (talk) 17:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the fast response! Much better. I especially like that rather than just addressing the one sentence I mentioned, you addressed several others, thank you. I'd still put in facts from the The Repository article, but when you have the time. --GRuban (talk) 18:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Chiming in briefly 'cause I was pinged – I think the article would likely be kept if nominated for deletion. The coverage in Muscle & Fitness, The Repository, and other bodybuilding-focused sources just scrapes by WP:GNG in my opinion. Kaltwasser is clearly an important competitor, and sources exist to build a verifiable article, so I think there's a clear case to keep the article on Wikipedia. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:55, 19 December 2024 (UTC)