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A kitten for you!
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Thank you for the invitation to Teahouse. I look forward to becoming familiar with it and hopefully continuing contributions to Wikipedia. This has been a fulfilling experience so far.
Brightlikethis (talk) 17:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- You're welcome, Brightlikethis. I hope you like it around here and decide to stay and edit some articles. We're all volunteers and we were all new at one time, so it's okay to ask questions if you're unsure about something. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:39, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Nice piece...
...on TheLily.com - read it yesterday while sitting in a parking lot getting my weekly dose of semi-human contact (to preserve my sanity). Well done! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ser Amantio di Nicolao; glad you liked it! I think they did a good job with the piece. Semi-human contact in a parking lot?! Now that has sparked my interest. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:15, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've been going out on the weekends and driving. Not getting out of the car much (wearing a mask when I do), just driving - I need a change of scene after being cooped up at home all week. When I read the article I'd been planning to buy a bag of potato chips, but Subway was closed for Easter. I saw the article and read it before moving on. :-) How are y'all holding up? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ser Amantio di Nicolao, doing okay, and I'm using the COVID19-era definition of okay when I say that. ;) I hate being cooped up, so I'm walking every day in my neighborhood, which is very rural (tall pine trees everywhere). I see the occasional neighbor kids on bikes or other adults like me walking to the mailbox (mine is half a mile away from home). We wave and sometimes we chat but stay a great distance apart. I haven't been into town for a few weeks now (G. is doing the grocery shopping) except to my doctor's office for a sinus infection, and that was a bizarre experience. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Aren't we all redefining "OK"? I, too, hate being cooped up - I'm rediscovering just how much I value my commute every day, even if it's only a half-hour or so either way. I don't have the time to walk during the day, since I work, but I need to try and do more - for exercise if nothing else. Weekends, I just drive, like I say. Sometimes do some grocery shopping, to help prop up the family stores. Stop in for a fast-food soda to keep up some sense of normalcy.
- Ser Amantio di Nicolao, doing okay, and I'm using the COVID19-era definition of okay when I say that. ;) I hate being cooped up, so I'm walking every day in my neighborhood, which is very rural (tall pine trees everywhere). I see the occasional neighbor kids on bikes or other adults like me walking to the mailbox (mine is half a mile away from home). We wave and sometimes we chat but stay a great distance apart. I haven't been into town for a few weeks now (G. is doing the grocery shopping) except to my doctor's office for a sinus infection, and that was a bizarre experience. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've been going out on the weekends and driving. Not getting out of the car much (wearing a mask when I do), just driving - I need a change of scene after being cooped up at home all week. When I read the article I'd been planning to buy a bag of potato chips, but Subway was closed for Easter. I saw the article and read it before moving on. :-) How are y'all holding up? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- And I can't imagine what a doctor's visit must be like right now. I'm not even thinking about it for the foreseeable future...I have a physical I've postponed, for one thing. And the dentist's visit... --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:58, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Great article. With every new piece about you, Rosie, we learn a little more about your life, aspirations and successes. But this is certainly one of the most informative.--Ipigott (talk) 06:45, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- I swear I left a note when Steve first posted this, but I see it nowhere. Really enjoyed the article, Rosie. Congrats! SusunW (talk) 14:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Great article. With every new piece about you, Rosie, we learn a little more about your life, aspirations and successes. But this is certainly one of the most informative.--Ipigott (talk) 06:45, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ipigott, glad you liked it! --Rosiestep (talk) 14:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, SusunW! And, like I said to Ipigott, glad you liked it. I hope TheLily interviews more Women in Red members in the future; society needs to know about the people behind all the biographies we are creating. I hammer that point with each interviewer. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Nine new members of WiR
I've just been welcoming nine new members of WiR who joined yesterday, most of them starting around 20:20 when they were apparently watching your presentation in connection with Wiki Edu Women in Red Wiki Scholars. Please provide a link to your presentation. It seems to have worked like magic.--Ipigott (talk) 14:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Wow! Nine new members; that is great! Glad to know that my presentation had such a positive impact on the group. I've linked the slidedeck, but I don't think there's a video of the presentation itself. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's great! As for the recording, while we share them internally with program participants, there are two concerns when uploading to Commons. First is the privacy of participants (this can be overcome by just asking permission, of course). The second is copyright. I've encountered some copyright concerns with videoconference recordings that I'm hoping to figure out soon (among other venues, I've posted about it [with my volunteer account] over on Commons). Basically, as far as I can tell, every person's webcam creates a separate copyright in a way that's inapplicable to real-life presentations, and which makes them incompatible with Commons absent compatible licensing from every person in the meeting. In the future, we'll probably have to incorporate a waiver into our onboarding materials in order to share those meetings that we want to share (like this one). :/ In this case, what I may be able to do is crop everyone out but Rosie, who could then release her video with a statement on the file page. I'll update you here if I can manage that. :) --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for having me, Ryan (Wiki Ed). My pleasure. BTW, my understanding regarding video matches up with yours. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent slide show. Very informative and encouraging. When is the next Scholars event? Is there a schedule somewhere?--Ipigott (talk) 06:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- They take the form of 8-12 week professional development courses. Sometimes they're sponsored directly by a partnering organization or university to train its members/faculty/staff, and sometimes it's open to anyone interested in the theme (like this one). For the latter, sometimes they're a fee-per-person (typically with financial aid available for those who don't have institutional funding), and sometimes we can secure funding through other means. For example, the one we're recruiting for most actively right now is a free 6-week intensive course to improve [US] state-specific COVID-19 articles. We may be running another course focused on biographies of women soon, too (science themed, but it's not certain yet). Upcoming courses are listed here. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rosie, for your additional welcoming efforts on the 17th. As a result, we had one more new member of WiR. Let's hope that with our encouragement, some of them will go on to contribute new articles about women -- or at least encourage their students to do so. It will be interesting to see how they perform when they have completed the course.--Ipigott (talk) 11:56, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- They take the form of 8-12 week professional development courses. Sometimes they're sponsored directly by a partnering organization or university to train its members/faculty/staff, and sometimes it's open to anyone interested in the theme (like this one). For the latter, sometimes they're a fee-per-person (typically with financial aid available for those who don't have institutional funding), and sometimes we can secure funding through other means. For example, the one we're recruiting for most actively right now is a free 6-week intensive course to improve [US] state-specific COVID-19 articles. We may be running another course focused on biographies of women soon, too (science themed, but it's not certain yet). Upcoming courses are listed here. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent slide show. Very informative and encouraging. When is the next Scholars event? Is there a schedule somewhere?--Ipigott (talk) 06:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for having me, Ryan (Wiki Ed). My pleasure. BTW, my understanding regarding video matches up with yours. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's great! As for the recording, while we share them internally with program participants, there are two concerns when uploading to Commons. First is the privacy of participants (this can be overcome by just asking permission, of course). The second is copyright. I've encountered some copyright concerns with videoconference recordings that I'm hoping to figure out soon (among other venues, I've posted about it [with my volunteer account] over on Commons). Basically, as far as I can tell, every person's webcam creates a separate copyright in a way that's inapplicable to real-life presentations, and which makes them incompatible with Commons absent compatible licensing from every person in the meeting. In the future, we'll probably have to incorporate a waiver into our onboarding materials in order to share those meetings that we want to share (like this one). :/ In this case, what I may be able to do is crop everyone out but Rosie, who could then release her video with a statement on the file page. I'll update you here if I can manage that. :) --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of List of cancellations, closures and postponements in California during the 2020 coronavirus pandemic for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of cancellations, closures and postponements in California during the 2020 coronavirus pandemic is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cancellations, closures and postponements in California during the 2020 coronavirus pandemic until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Natureium (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I've got a great system now for learning! Reading articles on other wikis and watching slowed down Youtube videos with subtitles, writing down notes on paper and then typiing them out after a session I really find I'm learning much faster and picking up much more! Dividing verbs, nouns and adjectives also an ideal way to approach it. Obviously I can pick words and phrases up from other languages at the same time but to really immerse yourself in it and focus on Spanish for a while I think is the best thing. I've learned a staggering amount in the last few days!† Encyclopædius 13:25, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, cool! I watch a lot of foreign films and miniseries on Netflix, etc., with English subtitles, and find I learn a bit of various foreign languages that way, too... immersion in another culture. Right now, watching The Trial in Italian. Recently finished Unorthodox, which included German and Yiddish, in addition to English. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ha! Well if you ever want to learn Italian I'm gradually building a verb dictionary for it at User:Encyclopædius/Language learning centre/Italian/Verb dictionary!† Encyclopædius 18:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, nice! I applaud you for having the capacity for such things, e.g. Italian verb dictionary. As for me, nope. But I have been spending a lot of time updating talkpage templates for WikiProject Women Writers. There are so many articles to review in the "???" column, but Rome wasn't built in a day. LOL --Rosiestep (talk) 20:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- It will probably take a few months to finish the lists for Spanish, French, Italian and German but it's definitely worth it. I've just been doing some work on Chile and already I'm noticing I need to check much less in translations, which means I've been able to use a book in the commons and read it and process it myself. I watch a lot of films too, Spanish, French and Italian would be most useful but we'll see how it goes. My system of learning is so good, I no longer feel intimidated by learning it! It's one of the best investments you can do with your time long term. † Encyclopædius 20:20, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, nice! I applaud you for having the capacity for such things, e.g. Italian verb dictionary. As for me, nope. But I have been spending a lot of time updating talkpage templates for WikiProject Women Writers. There are so many articles to review in the "???" column, but Rome wasn't built in a day. LOL --Rosiestep (talk) 20:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ha! Well if you ever want to learn Italian I'm gradually building a verb dictionary for it at User:Encyclopædius/Language learning centre/Italian/Verb dictionary!† Encyclopædius 18:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
WikiProject COVID-19 banners
Hi Rosiestep! We removed WikiProject COVID-19 banners from all biographies that were not related to COVID-19 beyond death cause or diagnosis. The most recent discussion is here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19 § Articles in scope?. There is also an ongoing discussion about refinement of importance assessment that is quite illustrative of this too: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19 § Reassessment of importance. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 20:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link, MarioGom. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello there. This is an invitation to join the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week. £250 (c. $310) up for grabs in May, June and July with £20 worth of prizes to give away every week for most articles destubbed. Each week there is a different region of focus, though half the prize will still be rewarded for articles on any subject. Sign up if you want to contribute at least one of the weeks or support the idea! † Encyclopædius 19:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, done. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. We do have over 3 million stubs now, it ought to be a 1 Million Destubbing Challenge! The Spanish learning is going amazingly well, I spent about an hour a day watching Spanish language videos or Youtube videos with Spanish subtitles. Finding less and less words I need to look up. I find Latin women speak at least twice as fast as the men though haha!† Encyclopædius 17:21, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Using ORES for destubbing
- Encyclopædius, this is what I'm doing and will continue to do regarding destubbing. There are a lot of articles which have a stub template or the talkpage WikiProject template has class=Stub, when in fact the article is no longer a Stub. I am working on making those updates to the article page and/or talkpage for those articles within the scope of WP:WikiProject Women writers. I'm using this table as my guide, User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Women writers; by reviewing the table's page history, you can see that on March 1st, there were 11,226 Stubs, and as of yesterday, there are 10,837. Lots of work still to do, but on the right path. Perhaps other folks would want to work off of other tables, e.g. User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/United Kingdom, or User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Scotland, etc.? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
True, a lot of people do forget to update the talk page.† Encyclopædius 20:08, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, it's actually quite the mess. Take for example, Category:Comics writers, which indicates that there are 98 articles with a stub template. Then there's Category:Comics artists, which has subcats for Category:Comics artist stubs, which total about 600 pages with a stub template. But the User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Comics table indicates that 5,782 talkpages have a template with class=Stub. This is an under-recognized issue in our movement, e.g. we don't really know how many articles are really Stubs. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
There ought to be something that when you remove the stub tag in the article the bot updates the talk page classing to start.† Encyclopædius 20:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, and vice versa. If I set all the talkpage templates to better than Stub-class, then the stub template at the bottom of the article page should automatically drop off. Right now, that is not automatic, but if I updated the talkpages using the Rater feature, I do get a pop-up notification stating: --Rosiestep (talk) 21:24, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Ratings saved successfully. Note that the article appears to be tagged as a stub.
Made a proposal at the village pump proposals. Just been watching Ecuadorian TV for the last hour and a half! † Encyclopædius 14:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have the ORES "Rater" tool installled which allows me to stay on the article page while I am updating the talkpage. I have a script installed so I see the ORES-predicted class underneath the article's name. Now let's take women's written works (e.g. books) as an example as I'm reviewing so many of them from the ??? column here (User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Women writers). Hundreds of these book articles are filled with prose (e.g. lengthy plot summary) but there are zero references in the article. WikiProject Novels and WikiProject Children's Literature have decided that book articles, which lack references are to be classified as Stubs, regardless of the amount of prose; and WikiProject Women Writers supports the consensus. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have also been contributing to "destubbing" by updating talk page assessments (or creating them if they do not exist). In addition to work on biographies (often in connection with productive editors), I've also been working on Danish geography. Yesterday, for example, I added updated assessments to all the articles on Danish towns and cities and am now dealing with the municipalities, many of which have never been assessed. As you say, Rosie, the whole thing is a mess and needs urgent attention. It's amazing how many talk pages still list "stub" for articles which have been updated over the years and have now reached C or even B class. Maybe Encyclopædius can draw special attention to it in the contest. In any case, our work is likely to make it easier for contestants in their selection of articles to work on.--Ipigott (talk) 06:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
If they don't support a bot, they should at least support a bot to draw up a list of probable ones and they can be sorted out during contests or something.† Encyclopædius 08:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
I've seen the same thing, Ipigott: many talkpages are missing WikiProject templates. Continuing to use the example of articles supported by WP Women Writers, I've taken to clicking through all the links in a bibliographic template, e.g. {{Astrid Lindgren}}, and updating the article talkpages templates. In this example, there were four articles whose talkpages were completely empty, so I added the appropriate WikiProject templates (all were C-class!).
And while I'm finding that it's more common for me to need to remove the Stub template from the bottom of an article than to add it, I am having to do that, too. Encyclopædius, like you say, I really think it's time for devs to give this attention and automate some of the tasks we're discussing here. Here's one recommendation that, to me, would seem like low-hanging fruit: a converse pop-up message per the one I described above. If I use Rater, and if I set all the article's talkpage templates to Stub-class, and if there's no Stub tag on the article page, give me a pop-up message, e.g.:
Ratings saved successfully. Note that the article appears to not be tagged as a stub.
Better yet, these pop-up messages should appear whether or not an editor is using Rater (e.g. they should also appear if you are updating the talkpage manually). --Rosiestep (talk) 14:47, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your hard work on the reassessing. People like Andrew Davidson are preventing us sorting out this big mess. I'm trying my best to bring down our stub count of 3,300,000 stub articles. Over 50% of our articles are stubs or classified as stubs. The count should be under 25%.† Encyclopædius 16:20, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius, you're welcome. And you're right that we have a Stub problem as (a) a lot of articles are Stub class and could be improved without a lot of effort, and (b) a lot of articles are classified as Stubs but aren't Stubs at all. I haven't been following a lot of other talkpages so don't know what you mean about Andrew Davidson. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius And next I assess Harriet Bloch and Edna G. Riley, both created 3 Feb 2020, which have no Stub tags and have empty talkpages, so these articles doesn't show up in any Stub statistics... that is, till now, as I'll do the needful myself. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
He's a WIR member (who I respect) who opposed my proposal at the pump to get this mess sorted out with a bot, saying he loves stub templates! Oh well. If we knew the actual stub figure and not the inflated one I could start one of those percentage bars to monitor progress long term. A bot really should also be used to add stub templates to new articles under 1.2 kb of reasable prose too but I doubt they would support it.† Encyclopædius 18:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
WCNA 2020
I'm wondering if it might be more effective than a WALRUS meeting if you just say, "Ok, we're gonna have a feasibility/planning meeting for WCNA at [date/time]. All who are interested can attend" - figure out a day/time, and see who shows up. I think the possibilities are exciting. - kosboot (talk) 13:36, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Good suggestion, Kosboot. Maybe in May. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
May 2020 at Women in Red
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She-Ra
I would like to ask a favor. We requested She-Ra for semi-protection on RPP.
However, there are about 8 editors all vandalizing all at once and have been for the last while, and we can't keep up.
Since you are online right now, can you please protect so we don't have to wait the hours for RPP?
Thanks, Hillelfrei• talk • 19:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Resolved. Thanks anyway. Hillelfrei• talk • 19:47, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hillelfrei, ugh, sorry to be slow on checking this out, but glad the issue is resolved. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:49, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you!!
Thank you so very much for the Mary Wollstonecraft Award! Coming from you that is a great honour. I will display it with pride! :) - Astrophobe (talk) 16:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Astrophobe, well-deserved. You're welcome. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- I too say thank you, Rosiestep. I am delighted to be one of few who have received this honour. I'd also like to congratulate you belatedly on your 5,000 articles. Oronsay (talk) 02:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well-deserved, and you're welcome, Oronsay; and thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- I too say thank you, Rosiestep. I am delighted to be one of few who have received this honour. I'd also like to congratulate you belatedly on your 5,000 articles. Oronsay (talk) 02:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
A plate of Dum Aloo for you
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A plate of Dum Aloo for you | |
Here is a plate of Dum Aloo for you. In Bengali, it is called Aloor dum. Dum Aloo is a popular dish in countries of the Indian Subcontinent, specially in India, Bangladesh. Hope you'll like it. Thank you. Titodutta (talk) 14:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC) |
- Thanks, Titodutta. Looks yummy! --Rosiestep (talk) 15:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Draft: Revelation 13:18 (rapper)
Hello Nice to meet you I appreciate your feedback on the article can you look at the article and make edits and corrections to the sources and written marterial per Wikipedia specifications so it can be stripped down so the reviewer doesn't have to wade through allot of unnecessary information to make it easier on the reviewer like mentioned. I would appreciate your contribution to the article and Wikipedia. Thanks Allot For Your Time KplusWequalsU (talk) 06:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- User has been helped elsewhere. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:03, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, CaptainEek, as I'm busy with a COVID-19 project at the moment. KplusWequalsU, welcome to Wikipedia and happy editing! --Rosiestep (talk) 07:23, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Need help doing something I'm not sure how to do.
Headbomb gave me a list of articles I had contributed to that were effected with winkie sourcing once that ref=harv thing became default. One of those is an article I wrote on Elise Mercur about 5 years ago and has had extensive additions by others--some good, others not. The problem is that someone has expanded the section on the Women's Building to include an entire discussion of what went on there during the Cotton States and International Exposition. Mercur simply designed and oversaw building the building. She had nothing to do with the actual exposition, which was overseen by women from Georgia. I think the entire section from the sentence "The Women's Building exhibitions were curated by women from Georgia" needs to move to the Cotton States article and should be attributed to whoever wrote it in Mercur, but I have no idea how to do that. Can you either move that whole section or tell me explicitly how to do it? Thanks. SusunW (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- SusunW,
Done. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. I knew there was a way it should be done properly, but I had no clue how to do that. SusunW (talk) 21:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- SusunW, you're welcome. A friendly FYI, here are the instructions: Wikipedia:Splitting#How to properly split an article. But I don't mind if you ask me to handle the task. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 21:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, well, I tried to do it from Mercur to Mayview State Hospital by myself. Is it fine? SusunW (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- SusunW, yes! W00t w00t! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, well, I tried to do it from Mercur to Mayview State Hospital by myself. Is it fine? SusunW (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- SusunW, you're welcome. A friendly FYI, here are the instructions: Wikipedia:Splitting#How to properly split an article. But I don't mind if you ask me to handle the task. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 21:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. I knew there was a way it should be done properly, but I had no clue how to do that. SusunW (talk) 21:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Hilary Weston to class=C
Hello Rosiestep - I noticed that you raised the quality assessment on Hilary Weston to C, but I'd ask that you reconsider. There are only 4 references listed, and much of the article is uncited. I'm not about to make a federal case of this, but I think a C-class rating is overly generous in this case. Regards, PKT(alk) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi PKT and thanks for stopping by. I think the quality assessment of class=C for the Weston article is justified. You raise the point that "there are only 4 references listed, and much of the article is uncited", but according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women writers/Assessment criteria for class=C:—
The article is substantial but is still missing important content or contains much irrelevant material. The article should have some references to reliable sources, but may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup. More detailed criteria. The article cites more than one reliable source and is better developed in style, structure, and quality than Start-Class, but it fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may have some gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance, or flow; or contain policy violations, such as bias or original research. Articles on fictional topics are likely to be marked as C-Class if they are written from an in-universe perspective. It is most likely that C-Class articles have a reasonable encyclopedic style.
- While I do view the ORES predicted quality score at the top of each article (I have a script installed), I make assessment decisions based on years of reviewing thousands of women's biographies. In the case of the Weston article the ORES prediction is: "C-Class article C (3.06)". I won't revert your revert, but I hope my comments here give you insight into my thinking when I made that edit. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the response. I too have reviewed and assessed many thousands of articles (mostly for WikiProject Canada) and I was not aware of the ORES script/API - might have a look at it! Regards, PKT(alk) 12:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi PKT, that is super cool! In 2008 and 2009, I created a lot of articles about Nunavut geography (islands, lakes, etc.). I have fond memories working on some of that with CambridgeBayWeather.
- BTW, these are the scripts I have installed on my common.js which, together, make article reviewing easier for me: User:Evad37/rater.js and User:EpochFail/ArticleQuality-loader.js. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Just remembered this conversation. There has been a push on in Nunavut to restore the original/traditional names to places. I have been very slowly going through them and updating them. So places like Cape Eglinton, which you created, are now Niaqurnaaluk. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- CambridgeBayWeather, thanks for letting me know. I'm quite supportive of that effort! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Just remembered this conversation. There has been a push on in Nunavut to restore the original/traditional names to places. I have been very slowly going through them and updating them. So places like Cape Eglinton, which you created, are now Niaqurnaaluk. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the response. I too have reviewed and assessed many thousands of articles (mostly for WikiProject Canada) and I was not aware of the ORES script/API - might have a look at it! Regards, PKT(alk) 12:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
CBS Sunday Morning
Hi, Rosie,
Just saw you on CBS News Sunday Morning, talking about editing on Wikipedia. Great job! Liz Read! Talk! 14:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Liz. Glad you liked it. I was interviewed at the Wikimedia Foundation's SF headquarters right after doing an in-person editathon at a week-long international conference (attended by thousands of people). It was such a different time. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Just saw about this - congratulations! (It seems someone at CBS Sunday Morning really likes Wikipedia, too. :-)) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- You're a superstar! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:58, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Ser Amantio di Nicolao and Another Believer! Everyone I worked with seemed really into Wikipedia, including the CBS Sunday Morning production crew, and Nick Thompson, editor-in-chief of Wired, who interviewed me. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:01, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Congratulations for representing Wikipedia on CBS Morning News show. And for the wonderful way that you blend your on wiki and on wiki volunteer activities. <3 Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 20:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
- Thanks, FloNight; really appreciate it! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:29, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
June 2020 at Women in Red
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CSB?
Hey Rosie!
I'm sure you've seen the CSB show at [1]. Just a quick comment for The Signpost. What did you think of the way they spelled your name?
Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:08, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Smallbones. Oh, I chuckled. For the record, my legal surname is "Stephenson-Goodknight" -- that's 21 characters including the hyphen. But truly, what matters to me is that Katherine, James, and I were part of a story -an inspirational story, I hope!- during the COVID-19 pandemic regarding Wikipedia as a reliable source, a story produced by a long-time, respected TV magazine with a viewership of millions of people. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. It was a good piece, wasn't it? Smallbones(smalltalk) 00:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Smallbones, it was an awesome piece! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Smallbones, good news: CBS is aware of the snafu with my surname, has corrected it in the written article, and is working on correcting it in the video. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Smallbones, it was an awesome piece! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. It was a good piece, wasn't it? Smallbones(smalltalk) 00:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Good to know. Smallbones(smalltalk) 12:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Women in Red template
Hi Rosie, I see you've been working on this. It looks as if the section under Administration on Help to new editors is no longer there. I think it is one of the most useful items, especially the links to the essays. Maybe you would like to restore it.--Ipigott (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ipigott, oops; it's back in there. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- There still seems to be a problem for me, even after emptying the cache.--Ipigott (talk) 14:21, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ipigott, hmm. Maybe try restarting your computer? Sometimes that works for me. A friendly FYI, this is the edit where I added Essays back into the template. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- There still seems to be a problem for me, even after emptying the cache.--Ipigott (talk) 14:21, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- I looked at the template following your last edit but it does not have links to the items in:
HELP FOR NEW EDITORS: Start here Primer for creating women's biographies Ten Simple Rules for Creating Women's Biographies How To Write Women into the Encyclopedia
MORE ESSAYS: Primer for AfD, AfC and PROD How to run an edit-a-thon Writing about women on Wikipedia Writing about women in computing on Wikipedia
Would it be possible to include these too? See version of 25 May. I don't think it was a good idea to "trim all the named essays & instead include link to Essays mainpage" as you did on 27 May. I really think the actual links need to be in template where new editors can find them before they get lost.--Ipigott (talk) 15:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ipigott
Done. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Happy, Happy
- Thanks, Birthday Committee & CommanderWaterford! --Rosiestep (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Serrapio for deletion
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Happy First Edit Day!
- Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU! --Rosiestep (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Vecchio gatto
Vecchio gatto is the perfect illustration for me getting suddenly much older one of these days ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing, @Gerda. I saw that cat here c:Category:Bicolor cats (to me, this category honors a lot of what we're honoring this month... "bi" and "color"). And I liked the chair he was sitting on, and I thought, what a cool, old cat... today is your day to keep an eye on my talkpage. Plus I'm getting older, too! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Cool. A tree illustrated my date but hiking up to it just now I found that blossoming is over, early this year. Re-decorating. Will check tomorrow if the flowers will still be there, or be mowed ;) - I wanted to through a feast this year, but will have to split it up, which is great for me, but not for guests whose chance to meet that regularly was. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Women writers
I finished a pass last night - I think I hit just about everything I can comfortably do with AWB right now. Let me know if you find a category I've missed - otherwise it's on to women in music right now. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:54, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Wonderful, Ser Amantio di Nicolao, and thank you! Now at 47,758! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Any time. I may do another pass in a few days when my run at women musicians is over. See if we can get it up to 50,000. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Cool! --Rosiestep (talk) 17:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Any time. I may do another pass in a few days when my run at women musicians is over. See if we can get it up to 50,000. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ser Amantio di Nicolao has certainly been highly successful here. It's great to have all these additions to WP Women writers but I see we now have 7,942 unassessed articles and that despite all Rosie's recent assessments, the project has an assessment rating of only 83%. For Women in music 570 are unassessed. I've been working on assessments in connection with the Scandinavian countries (WP Denmark, Iceland, Norway and Sweden) and have more or less completed them. But if AWB were to be used for these too, there would no doubt be hundreds more to review. In any case, assessment certainly helps with destubbing and from time to time reveals excellent articles which have never been assessed. If I find the time, I'll try to do some assessments on Women writers. Just going through some of the A's, it looks at if many deserve it.--Ipigott (talk) 07:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- And once I'm done with Women in music, I'll head on to several of the other "women in" Wikiprojects and see what needs to be done. On the plus side, finding all these articles now will lead to a lot fewer untagged articles in the future. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi again, Ser Amantio di Nicolao. I've come across at least a few biographies in the Category:French women writers and/or its subcats which don't have the WPWW talkpage. NO RUSH as >18K other articles are still waiting for volunteers to review. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- I have a feeling I know what's going on - I've run into it with women musicians as well, I think. I'll go back and do another run on each when I'm done with my current task, which will be a while...probably not until later next month sometime. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
watchlist
Hey, Rosiestep! Suddenly my watchlist is blowing up, but I'm not sure what it is you're doing? Not complaining, just trying to figure out what I'm not getting! It's all women's pages journalists. —valereee (talk) 23:59, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Valereee and thanks for reaching out. During this pandemic, I've been reviewing WP:WPWW articles from this table for quality and/or importance, and then adding the missing info (or updating a rating already there) on the article's talkpage using the "Rater" feature. Occasionally, I've also edited the article, albeit only with edits I can do swiftly such as adding headers, wikilinks, categories, etc. There are >18K articles which still need review (those in the "???" column) so if this gnome-ish work interests you, you are warmly welcome to jump in! But no worries if this isn't your cup of tea. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:57, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Lol, that explains it! I did quite a bit of work on women's page journalism a while back, so I've got a ton of women writers on my watchlist. :) I've actually been working on a similarly gnomish project, going through Category:American criminals state by state to remove those subcats from the bios they aren't appropriate for. The category is for people who've been convicted of noteworthy felonies, but people seem to want to call anyone who's ever been convicted of any crime a "criminal", categorize them that way, and often add 'and criminal' to the first sentence of the lead just to make sure everyone knows that (famous athlete) got popped for coke when he was 17. I correct the categories and if it's a living person read over the bio. I keep expecting someone who has all the pages in that category on their watch to show up at my talk either curious or pissed. :) —valereee (talk) 11:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oh wow, Valereee, looks like there are hundreds (thousands?) of articles in that cat/subcats. You've got your hands full with that project. The only U.S. criminal biography I remember working on was Elizabeth Potts; she was pretty outrageous. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, and she actually fits into multiple criminal categories :) Nice to be able to add to the cats instead of just subtract. —valereee (talk) 13:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oh wow, Valereee, looks like there are hundreds (thousands?) of articles in that cat/subcats. You've got your hands full with that project. The only U.S. criminal biography I remember working on was Elizabeth Potts; she was pretty outrageous. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Lol, that explains it! I did quite a bit of work on women's page journalism a while back, so I've got a ton of women writers on my watchlist. :) I've actually been working on a similarly gnomish project, going through Category:American criminals state by state to remove those subcats from the bios they aren't appropriate for. The category is for people who've been convicted of noteworthy felonies, but people seem to want to call anyone who's ever been convicted of any crime a "criminal", categorize them that way, and often add 'and criminal' to the first sentence of the lead just to make sure everyone knows that (famous athlete) got popped for coke when he was 17. I correct the categories and if it's a living person read over the bio. I keep expecting someone who has all the pages in that category on their watch to show up at my talk either curious or pissed. :) —valereee (talk) 11:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)