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Deleting programs at Open University Malaysia

May I know why you keep removing the section on programs at Open University Malaysia? This is merely general factual statements and does not contain promotional materials. And it has been included in other university articles as well such as Wawasan OU, so that audience can know what the university is about.

Nais69 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:36, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The section writes "OUM offers many programs...", then cited with the links to the organization's own website which is promoting the courses is considered promotional, per WP:LINKSPAM. Organisation's own website is not considered a reliable source as it does not prove verifiability as per WP:V. A simple list of field of studies has no encyclopedic value and should not be included as per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. My word is that any program should only be included if it has done something special and has been mentioned in the NEWSPAPER or other reputable sources. Here is a good example, University of Technology Sarawak#Student life.

In terms of Wawasan Open University, as I am working in cleaning up articles of universities in Malaysia, I will remove it later. @Nais69 Ong Kai Jin (talk) 14:16, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Honorific prefixes such as Tan Sri and Dato' should not be included as per MOS:HONOR. Take a look at List of University of Malaya people. @Nais69 Ong Kai Jin (talk) 16:30, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This guy keeps targeting and removing only local wikipedia pages. You can't make the pages better without it getting removed for being "Too promotional" or "Brochurelike" when other pages in other universities outside of Malaysia use primary references like their own webpages and are just fine as they add relevant information. Ambidextrose (talk) 05:43, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Catholic High School, Melaka moved to draftspace

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Catholic High School, Melaka (June 14)

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This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Brief history is not brief. Plenty of entries not sourced. Change from list to prose. School staff, just the principal list is sufficient. Wikipedia is not a directory.

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Notre Dame Convent moved to draftspace

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Proposed deletion of Stabbing incident in Tengkera

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Universiti Sains Malaysia

I appreciate your contribution to the article mentioned in the title above, but I don't see any elements of promo in the sources which I got the information from.--Boriaboy (talk) 03:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using organization's own website fails WP:V and inclines to WP:LINKSPAM. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 03:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. These sources are still acceptable in my opinion, as they are primary sources, although it would be better if they are accompanied by reliable secondary sources. The ones I added were actually subpage.--Boriaboy (talk) 04:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I think you will overwhelm AfD if you nominate any more schools for deletion. Please let those you have nominated progress before nominating more. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am just doing it in the way that is safer instead of WP:PRODDING them. I have been monitoring these school articles for two years, and I am able to pinpoint most of the misrepresented notability in them. I hope you understand. Regards. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not clear how it is safer than PROD. But I would suggest that when initiating a deletion discussion, a stronger rationale is called for. AfD asks editors to invest time in looking for sources. You could explain what you have already searched and why any sources found don't meet GNG/NORG. This will reduce the effort for other editors, and encourage a more careful consideration. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I came to say the same thing, Ong Kai Jin. The AFDs you created were not set up correctly and a bot had to correct your work. Did you do a WP:BEFORE on each article? Did you post a notification of the AFD on the User talk page of each editor who created a nominated article? You posted these too fast and I don't think you went through all of the necessary steps. They might be procedurally closed because of this rush.

Please do not nominate any more articles for AFD discussions until you better understand the nomination process. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not to pile on, but just to add to the above: nominating that many articles at once places an undue burden on the community. As was mentioned above, anyone participating in AFD is beholden to do BEFORE. To adequately prepare for a !vote on that many articles would take several hours of time for the other volunteer editors to complete. That, in and of itself is disruptive. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 13:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I have been monitoring these school articles for two years...", so, instead of engaging with editors on talk page, you decided to go on a frolic of your own? Nominating every school?

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