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Thank you Not Wlwtn (talk) 06:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Queestion

Following the discussion we were having yesterday at the COI noticeboard, I've now referred the issue to WP:ANI here [1]. I wonder if I could just ask you a question? Is similar COI or disruptive editing occurring on the equivalent pages on Sri Lankan Wikipedia and, if so, has any action been taken? Axad12 (talk) 13:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

You mean the Sinhalese Wikipedia? I wouldn't know, I don't check that wiki very often.

I'll check and see if the user is making any COI edits to the relevant article. Not Wlwtn (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

It seems that the election does not yet have its own page on the Sinhalese Wikipedia. Not Wlwtn (talk) 13:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh, that's surprising. Does it have an article on Oshala Herath?

(Yes, I assumed it would be called 'Sinhalese Wikipedia' but I wasn't sure.) Axad12 (talk) 13:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Nope, that doesn't have a page either. Not Wlwtn (talk) 13:51, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

That wiki is pretty inactive and isn't very well written. The English Wikipedia probably has more content relating to Sri Lanka than the Sinhalese one. I'd help improve articles there if I could, unfortunately I'm not very fluent in Sinhala. Not Wlwtn (talk) 13:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense in terms of English Wikipedia being the dominant version. Similar situation in a lot of countries I think. Many thanks for your assistance here, much appreciated. Axad12 (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome! Not Wlwtn (talk) 14:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Adding AKD's new picture to 2024 Sri Lankan Presidential Election Article

Can you add Anura Kumara Dissanayake's new picture to 2024 Sri Lankan Presidential Election article.current one is old now. File:Anura K Dissanayake (cropped).png Theekshana Weerasinghe (talk) 07:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Next Sri Lankan parliamentary election

Hello. I'm a bit confused by the article – specifically why the UNP is listed in the opinion polls table but not in the list of contesting parties or in the infobox. But the People's Alliance is in the infobox and contesting parties table, but not in the opinion polls table.

It's also slightly confusing that the TNA is listed in the infobox and contesting parties list, but only the ITAK is listed in the opinion polls table... Cheers, Number 57 18:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Yes, I'm aware of the inconsistencies in the article. There's bound to be a few since the article documents a future election, especially one where the circumstances of said election seem unclear as of today.

The UNP is not in the list of contesting parties as the party has not yet made an official statement saying they would participate in the next general elections (that I'm aware of. If I'm wrong please correct me). However it is included in the opinion poll table, as the poll, conducted by the IHP, includes the UNP in its polls.

Adding on to that, the poll also includes the ITAK rather than the TNA, and the SLFP rather than the People's Alliance. The SLFP has never fared very well in any of the IHP polls, usually scoring only 1 or 2%, therefore we felt it was useless to include it in the table.

The People's Alliance only stated it would be contesting in the next general election back in early 2024. Now I'm not sure if that's still happening. Since we don't currently have much of an idea what parties will actually be contesting in the election, I feel it'd be best to remove the table of contesting parties for now, as it definitely feels like crystal balling at this point. But those are just my thoughts. Not Wlwtn (talk) 01:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

TBH I am not sure we need confirmation that a party will be contesting an election to include in the infobox. I think we would only exclude a party if it was definitely confirmed it would not be running. Even then, some infoboxes contain parties that are not running up until election day on the basis that they still hold seats. I would therefore suggest the UNP be added to the infobox. Cheers, Number 57 14:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

I feel a confirmation would be necessary. We also need to take into consideration that party alliances and coalitions may switch around drastically closer to the election, as we saw in 2020.

Perhaps instead of removing the table entirely we could just make it hidden. Until we have more info on what parties are running. Not Wlwtn (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Do you mean confirmation is necessary for the infobox or the table? I understand for the table, but not the infobox – it is fairly usual for all parties with seats to be in infoboxes despite not knowing whether they will contest the next election. Number 57 20:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

I meant the table, under the section "Contesting parties". I don't think there's anything to change with the infobox. Not Wlwtn (talk) 21:10, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

But the UNP is missing from the infobox despite being in fourth place in the polls... Number 57 22:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Then add them. They currently have only one seat in parliament, however. Not Wlwtn (talk) 00:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Also for the sake of discussion I suggest moving this to Talk:Next Sri Lankan parliamentary election, so we can get a wider range of opinions from other editors. Not Wlwtn (talk) 10:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Good idea – I've copied it to Talk:Next Sri Lankan parliamentary election#UNP. Sorry, I came to your talk page as you seem to be our resident specialist on Sri Lankan elections. Number 57 19:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh wow, LOL. I've only been editing Sri Lankan elections on Wikipedia for about 2 years now, so this comes as a surprise. I'm glad I could help! Not Wlwtn (talk) 22:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	For your tireless efforts in 2024 Sri Lankan presidential election article! Cheers, Chanaka L (talk) 12:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Not Wlwtn (talk) 12:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For the work in 2024 Sri Lankan presidential election. IDB.S (talk) 06:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Not Wlwtn (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Empty edit summary

Hello, it would be extremely helpful if you could kindly leave an edit summary when making changes to articles. I have noticed that you often do not include one. Providing an edit summary allows other editors to use their time more productively, instead of having to scrutinise and verify edits unnecessarily. Even a brief summary is better than none, and they are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. Thank you! QEnigma (talk) 10:55, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Ok, sure. I will try to do it more often. Not Wlwtn (talk) 14:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Sri Lankan Political articles

Hello, Not Wlwtn, welcome to the Wiki Sri Lanka workspace. Thank you for your contirbutions. It is nice to have some more productive editors on board and I look foreward to working with you. I would like to thank you for your edits to Template:Aragalaya but you have changed the whole structure and content of the template without any edit summary, notice or disscusion on its talk page. Please remember to use the edit summaries and talk pages as a place for discussion, especially if it is for a new article or template as above. I have restored the struture of the template as I intended to create it but have incorporated your helpful edits. Thank you for your collaboration! Blackknight12 (talk) 01:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

President Anura kumara dissanayake

You recently said that Gotabaya Rajapaksha is not Third party candidate.... First of all You know that Slfp & Unp Continuesly bring president posts..... Slpp found in 2016 There are No president selected from this party until 2019.... Gotabaya was first president from Slpp And there are No slfp logo used for that election.... In your point Npp also led by Jvp In 2004-2014 Alliance with slfp So that Npp not consider as a third party..... Sathir md (talk) 13:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I believe you have misunderstood my point. You are correct that the Sri Lanka Podujana Peramuna was founded as a party in 2016. However, the party was founded as a spinoff party of the SLFP, led by Rajapaksa loyalist MPs. By 2019, most members of the SLFP had defected from the party to the SLPP, and the SLPP was now the main opposition party, with Mahinda Rajapaksa serving as Leader of the Opposition. Therefore, in 2019, the SLPP could be considered a main party rather than a third party.

Additionally, in the 2019 election, Gotabaya Rajapaksa and Sajith Premadasa were the two main candidates. Premadasa was backed by the UNP. The SLFP, on the other hand, did not field a candidate in the election, and instead endorsed Gotabaya. Therefore, Gotabaya could not be considered a "third-party candidate", as he was a candidate endorsed by two main parties at the time, the SLPP and SLFP.

Going by your logic, Fonseka, Sirisena and Premadasa could also be considered "third-party candidates", as they did not contest the election as UNP candidates, but New Democratic Front candidates. However since they were backed by the UNP we do not consider them third-party. Therefore it's not just the party they run under on the ballot itself but also the parties that support them that really matters. Only AKD can be considered a true third-party candidate in that regard. Though his party, the JVP, was a part of the government in 2004, in the 2024 election, the party only had 3 seats in parliament and was not aligned with the SLPP, UNP, SLFP or SJB. That is my reasoning. Not Wlwtn (talk) 17:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Party shading/New Democratic Front (2024)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Edit to 17th Parliament of Sri Lanka

@Not Wlwtn: Hello, I reverted your recent edit made to the above article. The inclusion of the Speaker and other parliamentary officials in the government section is misleading, as these roles oversee legislative functions and are not part of the executive branch. Ministers and deputy ministers implement government policies, while parliamentary officials manage legislative proceedings.

To improve clarity, parliamentary roles should be separated from executive roles. Additionally, a dedicated subsection for government policy would allow for organised updates on annual developments without merging unrelated content, keeping the section focused and concise. Best regards. QEnigma (talk) 01:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Nowhere does it explicitly say that the "Government" section should cover only roles within the executive branch. This is not how we have done things in previous articles for parliaments. You are oversaturating the article with several subheadings and making the article more exhaustive than it needs to be at this point in time. I'm not opposed to having a subsection for government policies, once we have more information to actually put in that section; right now it has only one line. Not Wlwtn (talk) 04:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

@Not Wlwtn: Thank you for your response. While past articles may have approached similar sections differently, the goal should always be to improve upon previous examples. Structuring the article more clearly ensures it is accessible not only to locals familiar with the system but also to readers from elsewhere who may lack such context.

The claim that the article risks becoming exhaustive is speculative. Subheadings organise content logically and enhance clarity. Including a government policy subsection provides a framework for future updates without requiring extensive initial content, reducing future maintenance challenges common in articles about Sri Lanka.

Improving clarity and coherence benefits all readers and aligns with Wikipedia's objectives. Best regards. QEnigma (talk) 08:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)