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Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Aspera Hiems Symfonia Constellation My Angel.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

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Uploading fair use images

Hi, copyrighted images need to be low-resolution to qualify for fair use, which means that they should be under 400px. Images typically look best when they are uploaded in the size for which they will appear in the article, perhaps slightly larger. 500px is too large. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 22:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC))

April 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Born From Pain, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted by ClueBot. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Born From Pain was changed by Cannibaloki (u) (t) blanking the page on 2008-04-03T20:42:39+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 00:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

A word on images

Hi. Please don't tag images as self-created, GDFL, etc. unless you actually created them & own the copyright. I noticed that you had tagged several images as such which were clearly promotional photographs or album covers, and which your summaries said you had found on websites. I assume that you either made a mistake or were trying to get around some of Wikipedia's fair use criteria. Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's non-free content criteria and be sure to use the proper license tags. If you did not take the photo or create the album cover yourself, and you do not own the copyright on it, then you do not have the right to release the copyright or license the image as GDFL. Please contact me on my talk page if you have any questions and I will be happy to point you in the right direction for help with images. Thank you. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Textures - Promo 03.jpg

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Flagicons

Please stop adding them into infoboxes for bands. Flagicons are no longer used in such a manner. On another note, Arcturus is great. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I meant that I like the band, Arcturus. I'm guessing you do, too, as you uploaded an album image by them. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Textures - Promo 03.jpg)

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RE: IIldisposed

Yes, you may do that. Go right ahead. The article may still be deleted, though. It needs a lot of improvement. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 18:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Illdisposed / Cruachan

Hi there. I have removed some of the changes you made to the two articles above.

  • With regards to Illdisposed, I removed the entire biography you added since it was just a direct word for word copy of the band's entry on Allmusic. That's pretty much a copyright violation since you did not even used quotation marks around the long paragraph. It would not be a good idea to quote an entire paragraph like that anyway. Better to just use it as a reference for specific points.
  • I've removed all the associated acts you added to the Cruachan page since I doubt any one of them are notable enough to have an article on wikipedia. Likewise, I've removed the wiki link to Nazgul's Eyrie Productions since this defunct record label is unlikely to get an article on wikipedia either.
  • For the same reason, I have removed the wiki links you created for the demo and promo as these are generally not considered notable releases and hence do not get individual articles on wikipedia. See WP:MUSIC.
  • I've added a proposed deletion tag to the A Celtic Trilogy you created. As much of a fan as I am of the band, I do not think this is a notable release either. It is not an ordinary compilation like a greatest hits record or something. It's their first three studio albums in their entirety repackaged and released as three picture LPs. The fact that the compilation was limited to just 500 copies also indicates that it is a non-notable release.
  • A minor point but Celtic metal is capitalised since the name refers to a group of people. Likewise Christian metal and Viking metal. Other subgenres are not capitalised.
  • I have also noticed that you marked some of your edits as minor even though that is not the case. A minor edit covers only superficial differences like fixing typos and formatting. Adding content like that biography paragraph on Illdisposed is not a minor edit and should not be marked as such.

Don't take my comments the wrong way. I'm just letting you know all these as a matter of courtesy. I'm aware that you are still quite new to wikipedia and I do not want to scare you off. So by all means please continue contributing but do bear in mind the above. --Bardin (talk) 16:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Century (US band)

A tag has been placed on Century (US band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Precambrian - Side Notes

Well I got most of the side names from their MySpace, the official web site, and some others I forgot. Then I luckily checked Metal Blade Europe (Precambrian info on Metal Blade Europe) and had all names. Sorry for the confusion. I will add the source to the track listing.

The Phantomnaut (talk) 00:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Deicide_-_When_London_Burns.jpg

I have tagged Image:Deicide_-_When_London_Burns.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. Melesse (talk) 05:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Anthelion (band)

A tag has been placed on Anthelion (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. CalendarWatcher (talk) 06:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Mental Horror

A tag has been placed on Mental Horror requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 04:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the speedy deletion note- a good biography at AMG and Rockdetector means the band looks notable to me. Feel free to contact me if you need anything! J Milburn (talk) 08:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

What specifically do you need help with? The article doesn't look too bad to me. J Milburn (talk) 18:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The lead section there at the moment looks fine. If you are looking for ideas of how to expand it, take a look at some featured discographies: Slayer discography, Alice in Chains discography and Metallica discography are all featured lists, so they would be good to base this article on. For other featured heavy metal discographies, check out this list. J Milburn (talk) 18:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Try asking Burningclean for advice, given the fact he has written several featured lists (FLs). LuciferMorgan (talk) 04:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I've given the lead section a copyedit for you, but I'm not the best copyeditor in the world! I would also advise contacting Burningclean, he's got a lot of 'recognised' content related to heavy metal, including a few discographies. J Milburn (talk) 11:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Woo! I feel loved on here! It really looks like an awesome list already. The only things I notice:
  • No need to mention what their name means in the lead.
  • Try combineing the certifications in one box such as used in Metallica discography.
  • No need to center the singles.
  • You must get the directors for the music videos. Try http://mvdbase.com/
  • References should not be capitalized. (refs 7 and 17)
  • Add {{-}} above the band template just for looks.
  • Try getting ""—" denotes albums that were released but did not chart." included into the table such as in Metallica discography. Burningclean [speak] 00:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I've moved it for you and added some categories. J Milburn (talk) 19:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


Meshuggah discography

Nice article.. good work...--  LYKANTROP  10:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! But still more can be better. --Cannibaloki (talk) 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Why did you delete the demos?--  LYKANTROP  09:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I removed the demos that they are not notable. You can add more content, but if it is without tables, then, you used the table to albums in video clips, it was senseless. Still, thanks for your help! --Cannibaloki (talk) 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
That's ok, but how do you come to the idea that it is not notable? I think that every release is notable for a discography article...--  LYKANTROP  16:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
See this: Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies --Cannibaloki (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I personally do not insist on the demos, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies does not say that demos are not notable (at least I didn't find anything like that).
And the discography section in Meshuggah article: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines#Discography section.--  LYKANTROP  11:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
And I am also not sure about the soundtracks you added - Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style#What should not be included says: Non-original or previously-released material used on soundtracks, trailers, commercials, or any other compilation releases.--  LYKANTROP  12:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Amen. --Cannibaloki (talk) 15:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Amen? --  LYKANTROP  07:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
“It can also be used colloquially to express strong agreement, as in, for instance, amen to that”. More anything? --Cannibaloki (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, sorry that I asked something at all--  LYKANTROP  20:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I expanded the lead section; you can fix it...--  LYKANTROP  22:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :)--  LYKANTROP  23:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not really sure. I'd say about 30 seconds would be great, but remember that it must be in .ogg format, and that it must be a low bitrate. You may want to take a look at some of the featured articles for examples of good fair use rationales for music files. J Milburn (talk) 15:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

This one, from Megadeth, for instance. J Milburn (talk) 15:43, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
No, it needs a detailed fair use rationale- check the one I linked above for an idea of what needs to be said. J Milburn (talk) 16:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Provided the band article does discuss that song, yes, that rationale looks fine. J Milburn (talk) 17:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Meshuggah - band.jpg

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No- while the band is still active, an image of them is almost certainly replaceable, and so should be deleted. J Milburn (talk) 20:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Our non-free content criteria say that we cannot use fair use images that could be replaced by a free image. If the band is still active, then someone could take a picture of them and release it under a free license, so it is counted as replaceable, and should be deleted. J Milburn (talk) 20:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Meshuggah - band.jpg)

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There's nothing wrong with images, provided they are free. I have removed the album covers, but I think the picture of the guitarist (didn't see who it was) is fine. J Milburn (talk) 17:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Non-free images (like album covers) are a problem in articles like this. Other images usually are not. J Milburn (talk) 17:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Prevail has been moved to Prevail (album)

Ok, I've deleted parts, restored parts and moved parts. There are now three separate pages each with the correct edit history- prevail, Prevail (album) and Prevail (musician). You were right to contact me here, if it had been left, we would have had to perform a history merge, which is awkward. J Milburn (talk) 17:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the article is quite poor enough to warrant speedy deletion (it references a couple of ezines- probably non reliable sources, but still)- perhaps you would like to take the article to articles for deletion? The process is explained here, or you can just place {{subst:afd1}} at the top of the article and follow the instructions on the tag. Alternatively, I can nominate it for you. J Milburn (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Our notability guidelines for bands can be found here. Rockdetector isn't massively reliable- I'd be careful of it. Our guidelines on reliable sources are quite long and complicated, but, basically, All Music Guide, Blabbermouth and any paper magazine/published book (and their websites) are generally useful sources. Respectable ezines are probably good sources, and so are interviews with the band. More mainstream sites, (about.com and such) including news sites, are great. This is by no means every reliable source that may be useful for heavy metal articles, but it gives you a good start. J Milburn (talk) 16:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Sandboxes

I noticed your message on J Milburn's talk page. To get your page deleted place the {{db-author}} tag on the page. - Amog | Talkcontribs 15:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Anytime. - Amog | Talkcontribs 16:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)