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Ukraine rulers article
What is the reason behind deleting improvements in the Ukraine rulers article? Were they harming? Because without them article only looks more bland and unfinished. 46.211.127.94 (talk) 07:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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>do not see how this would matter in this case
Simply put, Runglish is not only about "nadsat" or the macaronic language of Brighton Beach. It's also a name for Russians' flawed English. I listed one more flaw that can be found in this kind of Runglish.
(Not contesting the "unsourced" part though. It would ridiculously difficult to obtain a source - it would take a meta-analysis of - literally - over 9000 pages on, say, Livejournal and "old" YT to see whether people from Russia posting in English with this very flaw - writing "congolese" or "albanian" without the proper capitalization. I only can say "конголезец" or "албанец" respectively would be un-capitalised in Russian) 81.89.66.133 (talk) 09:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I was referring to the lowercase in Russian. But this sounds anecdotal. Per WP:V this should be supported by a reliable source. If there is no source that mentions this, then probably it is not worth mentioning. Mellk (talk) 10:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've been researching the topic. Didn't find much on flawed English speech. However, I've found something polar opposite. There are plenty of online discussions regarding people who would post on forums/microblogs/blogs in Russian and then flub up a little by spelling a nationality with the upper-case. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 13:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:RS it must be cited to reliable sources. I do not think we can cite online discussions here. Mellk (talk) 13:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've been researching the topic. Didn't find much on flawed English speech. However, I've found something polar opposite. There are plenty of online discussions regarding people who would post on forums/microblogs/blogs in Russian and then flub up a little by spelling a nationality with the upper-case. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 13:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Croatian War of Independence
Hi Mellk. I didn't write anything wrong, I just restored what the IP deleted. This [[1]]. I just wanted to bring that back, because I think I'm right, that movement was active throughout Croatia in the 90s. Please read here.[[2]].What do you think about this and whether it should be hidden from the public and not be written about or whether it should be included in this article?89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Chetniks are not mentioned in the article. Please see WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE, which says:
The purpose of an infobox is to summarize, but not supplant, the key facts that appear in an article.
Thank you. Mellk (talk) 19:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC) - This was also added by an IP not long ago (presumably this was you). Mellk (talk) 19:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- If they are not included in that article, it does not mean that they did not participate, this says otherwise and then the article should be improved. Look at how many sources there are, unfortunately someone did not put it in this article. But I think that does not mean that I am wrong. What do you think about it?89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- You are welcome to add a mention of this in the body (citing a reliable source) first or to start a talk page discussion about this. Mellk (talk) 19:23, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can I take this back from you? I don't want it and I won't, if you don't allow it. I don't want to add all that from that page, some Serbian Pov pushers like Shadow4ya will say that I copied it all from that page and that it doesn't apply to that page. That's how it will be. Feel free to say no and I won't be on Wikipedia anymore, I won't be angry with you, that's how the wiki is, that's how the editing policy is.89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can I make an additional section in that article about the Chetniks and then add that they participated? You see that it says all sorts of things there, but they didn't put anything about the Yugoslav wars that they participated in?89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Your best chance is to be bold. If it gets reverted, you can write your arguments on the talk page. If that does not work, there is also dispute resolution. Mellk (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, first I'll write on the talk page why I brought it back and that it says that that movement participated and there is evidence for that, but that the entire article is being edited. Only then will I bring it back. First I'll write everything on the talk page so if anyone disagrees, they can come forward there. Thanks89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can suggest on the talk page what should be added to the body (with references to WP:RS) and see if there is any agreement on inclusion (or the wording can be discussed). Once it is mentioned in the article it is possible to also include this in the infobox. Mellk (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, first I'll write on the talk page why I brought it back and that it says that that movement participated and there is evidence for that, but that the entire article is being edited. Only then will I bring it back. First I'll write everything on the talk page so if anyone disagrees, they can come forward there. Thanks89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Your best chance is to be bold. If it gets reverted, you can write your arguments on the talk page. If that does not work, there is also dispute resolution. Mellk (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can I make an additional section in that article about the Chetniks and then add that they participated? You see that it says all sorts of things there, but they didn't put anything about the Yugoslav wars that they participated in?89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can I take this back from you? I don't want it and I won't, if you don't allow it. I don't want to add all that from that page, some Serbian Pov pushers like Shadow4ya will say that I copied it all from that page and that it doesn't apply to that page. That's how it will be. Feel free to say no and I won't be on Wikipedia anymore, I won't be angry with you, that's how the wiki is, that's how the editing policy is.89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- You are welcome to add a mention of this in the body (citing a reliable source) first or to start a talk page discussion about this. Mellk (talk) 19:23, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- If they are not included in that article, it does not mean that they did not participate, this says otherwise and then the article should be improved. Look at how many sources there are, unfortunately someone did not put it in this article. But I think that does not mean that I am wrong. What do you think about it?89.172.12.2 (talk) 19:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
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for expanding the history section of Mari people :)
... sawyer * he/they * talk 00:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- also, quick question - the google books link for the Taagepera book you're referencing says 2013, but the limited preview is of the 1999 version. the preview doesn't include the Mari El chapter, so it's not clear to me whether you're referencing from the 1999 or 2013 edition. if you could clarify, that'd be very helpful, thanks! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 00:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I took a look at the Routledge website and it seems that there is only one edition. In the preview there it says: "This edition published 2011 by Routledge". But I do not think there is any difference. It looks like the eBook was published in 2013 but the preview is showing the hardcover version. The relevant chapter is: "Mariel: Europe's Last Animists". I will correct this in the article. Thanks for letting me know. Mellk (talk) 16:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- huh, weird. thanks! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 19:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I took a look at the Routledge website and it seems that there is only one edition. In the preview there it says: "This edition published 2011 by Routledge". But I do not think there is any difference. It looks like the eBook was published in 2013 but the preview is showing the hardcover version. The relevant chapter is: "Mariel: Europe's Last Animists". I will correct this in the article. Thanks for letting me know. Mellk (talk) 16:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
New Year
Hello Mellk. I wish you a happy New Year. Thank you for your contributions to English Wikipedia in 2024. We wish English and other language WikiProjects and Wikipedias happy editing in 2025! Thank you! (Captian Wiki (talk) 19:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)) Captian Wiki (talk) 19:28, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks and best wishes to you. Mellk (talk) 08:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting one of the edits done by this anonymouns IP. I have also reverted the other (identical) changes made by the same user (http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Special:Contributions/131.164.141.127) and added a warning to their talk page. Kiwipete (talk) 02:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)