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Selected articles on Portal:F1

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Hello again.

I dropped notes round a while back to those who have listed themselves at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Formula_One to ask for suggestions for selected articles on portal:Formula One. There was a pretty good response, both in terms of how it might work and of articles suggested. Damon Hill came out with the most support and was brought up to Good Article standard after a lot of work by Skully Collins and others before going on as the F1 portal selected article a couple of weeks ago. It is now at Featured Article Candidates as a Featured Article candidate (why not drop by and see if you can help polish it further?).

Several people who responded to the original request suggested that a monthly or bi-weekly 'Selected Article' could act as a catalyst for an improvement drive to get more articles up to a higher standard. Although it wasn't quite what I had in mind when I started, this seemed to work pretty well for the Damon Hill article, so I've drafted up a process for doing this more regularly. See Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management_of_selected_articles for details. Essentially the suggestion is that we vote for an article to improve every couple of weeks and at the end of the improvement process the article goes on the portal as the new 'Selected Article'. I'd be grateful for any comments on how this might work - I'm sure some of you are more familiar with things 'Wiki' than me - as well as your votes for the next candidate (by 16 July).

You may also want to help with the article Gilles Villeneuve, which was the next most popular after Damon Hill. The idea is to try and get it up to GA standard by 16 July and then put it on the portal as the 'Selected Article'. I hope you can help! 4u1e 4u1e 16:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Back

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Hi, Welcome back. I hope you had a good holiday :) --Ali K 02:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say I have been to Dunsborough, although I have been to Margaret River and Augusta :) I could stand at the top of the Cape Leeuwin Lighthouse for hours on end! --Ali K 12:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Great Eastern Highway

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I was thinking - interested to know what do you think - Putting the Section you've just edited before Greenmount Hill ? SatuSuro 08:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the prod tag based on the fact that Newburn does exist (or has at some point in the past). I.e. the article is not an outright hoax, and since the suburb is mentioned in the article for Belmont and the template for Belmont suburbs, I was satisfied that the suburb exists. Admittedly, it and Riverdale are the least-developed articles, and might well deserve deletion on the grounds of not having enough info to make a full article, to where they should just be covered in the Belmont article. I couldn't go so far as to say delete the article because the suburb doesn't exist, though. —C.Fred (talk) 15:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was just wondering, why did you do this, and remove the scores? Daniel.Bryant 12:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2005 Semi Final

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In response to your question on my talk page, the 2005 1st Semi Final between Adelaide and Port Adelaide was Showdown XIX[1]. I've been away for a while, so you probably already know the answer, but I thought I should reply anyway. --ThirdEdition 03:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Midland

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Although various attempts have been made to construct townsites further east on Great Eastern Highway I am intrigued by this could you possibly expand on this, I am not sure I understand what you mean - I do hope you dont mind me asking you on your talk page rather than the midland page. Thanks SatuSuro 07:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know about your change. I am very low level editing at the moment, but I thought there might have been some proposed projects in the Midvale/Farrell Road area that I might not have heard about at some stage as I lived away from Perth for parts of the 70's and 90's and thought there might have been something! Have you heard anything/read anything about the prospect of the midland line being extended and a new railway station at the end of Lord Street(ie south of Macdonalds or just next to the new Harvey Norman), or Stratton at all? Cheers SatuSuro 13:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stirling

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The problem is that I didn't realise that Stirling is both a suburb and a local government area. I had thought that it was only a local government area.

The convention is "Name, Western Australia" for cities, towns and suburbs, so the correct title for an article on Stirling the suburb is Stirling, Western Australia.

For all other geographic features (rivers, islands, mountains, etc), the convention is to use the bare name if possible, and to disambiguate using parentheses only if necessary. This convention applies for local government areas, so the correct title for Stirling the local government area is City of Stirling, which is its gazetted name[2]. If there were more than one "City of Stirling" in the world, then the correct disambiguated title would be City of Stirling (Western Australia), rather than City of Stirling, Western Australia.

For context and further information you might like to look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australia#Local Government Area inconsistencies, Talk:Local Government Areas of Western Australia and [[Category:Local Government Areas of Adelaide.

Hesperian 13:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC) (formerly Snottygobble)[reply]

I have moved it back to City of Stirling, since the content of the article made it clear it was about the local government area, not the suburb. And I have created a stub on Stirling the suburb at Stirling, Western Australia. I think this follows naminb conventions now. The only problem is that there will be some links pointing to the suburb article that ought to be pointing to the LGA article. But that is happening all over the place at the moment. Hesperian 02:36, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but I don't think there are any "City/Town/Shire of XXX, Wester Australia" articles out there. Some of them are already at "City/Town/Shire of XXX", but most of them are at "XXX, Western Australia". Moving them needs to be done with great care, as we've seen here by my error in thinking Stirling was only a LGA. The process should be something like:
  • If XXX is an LGA but not a suburb or town, then the article belongs at "City/Shire/Town of XXX".
  • If XXX is a suburb or town but not an LGA, then the article belongs at "XXX, Western Australia".
  • If XXX is both a suburb/town and an LGA, then ideally there should be two separate articles.
    • If the current article only covers the LGA, then it should be moved to the LGA name, and a suburb stub created. (e.g. as I did with Stirling)
    • If the current article only covers the suburb, then it should be taken out of the LGA category, and an LGA stub should be created.
    • If the current article covers both (e.g. Leonora, Western Australia), then in the long term they should be split, but in the short term this can be handled by creating a redirect from Shire of Leonora.
Extra care needs to be taken with Northam, as there is both a Shire of Northam and a Town of Northam in addition to Northam, Western Australia the (lower-case "t") town. Hesperian 05:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Meadow Street

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Oops... I think that might have been one of my late night ones! My guess is I got it confused with Johnson Street in my head.

If you want really weird signage, the Route 10 signs at Fairway Drive and Bussell Highway, Busselton, are all the wrong type. They've used a Route 1 blank sign and printed "10" on it. Orderinchaos78 13:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of City Street Names

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Need discussion - please note I am not agreement with this but will hand over to my more experienced editor friends SatuSuro 04:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked closer and have thought about it and it now will be in the hands of admins - I think your reversions need reverting! SatuSuro 06:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Checked all the protocols re this issue - and (a) you should have looked at other perth street articles - and seen there is a precedent and convention in use....
  • (b) you should have put the issue to Perth project first for discussion before reverting - specially as there is already a particular pattern
  • (c) I should have put the issue from my perspective on the Perth project talk page - and not referred it to admins at all - it is at this stage to go to the larger picture talk page
  • (d) My apologies for all this - but really something like perth project needs consistent and well thought out issues - your comment on a summary is not sufficient reasoning for fellow members of the project to understand.

Oh well - its better to hesitate first on this stuff - SatuSuro 07:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you would like to put your comments on the Project Perth talk page. SatuSuro 07:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Western australian wikiproject

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Hope an editor such as yourself can lift this new project. Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia Fred.e 10:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your userbox, I had already made one at {{User WPWA}}, and asked for help to make it less ugly at the WikiProject talk page. You should mention yours there too, so that people know there are two options. Down the track I suppose we will have to settle on one, but there's no need to rush into that now. Hesperian 23:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I've updated the WikiProject page to include your alternative, and have left a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Australia#Userbox. Hesperian 23:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be okay if you changed the template to categorise into Category:WikiProject Western Australia members, which was already in existence and populated, rather than your new category Category:WikiProject Western Australia participants? Hesperian 23:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers. Hesperian 23:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like the new templates and cats. Think the map informs. I briefly considered the coat of arms!? Fred.e 14:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arterial Roads -- Canning Beach Rd/Kintail Rd?

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G'day M Johnson. I saw your work on "Template:Perth Roads" & jumped to a conclusion: I'm a Traffic Controller, I've been working on the upgrade to Canning Beach Road/Kintail Road in Applecross following the Raffs "upgrade". Line marking is due to happen in the New Year -- it would be sooner but MRD has jumped in, something to do with being an arterial road! Do you have any info? That is, does this intersection belong in the template?  Gordon | Talk, 11:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave it for the time being -- apart from anything else, I don't know the criteria for "arterial roads"... Nor do I know any history of the area.  Gordon | Talk, 06:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hirohito

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Hi, I won't start a fight about your change but I do not think the article is better without the precision. As you wrote on the article discussion page, there is only ONE guy, who wrote that he will never do himself the changes he ask, who believe that the article is non neutral. And it took three posts of this guy to understand what he meant. At first, I thought he meant that Hirohito was too much described as a war criminal. Now, every reader will wonder, maybe for years, whether the article is too much in favor or too much against Hirohito. Contrary to what you presume, I do not think that readers will all take the time to read the obscure comments on the discussion page to see what is the presumed bias of the article. --Flying tiger 13:53, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In answer to your comment on my page, maybe my error was to assume that Wikipedia was made for general reader and not "editors" who read the pages twice a year. OK we'll then wait and see how long this confused situation will last... --Flying tiger 14:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Roe Highway Junction Infobox RemovaL

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Hello

Just a small request to recreate the Junctions infobox and convert it into a table, like you did with Tonkin Highway, as this design is very clean and attractive. Regards, Boochan 15:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article

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Hi, sorry for not getting back earlier! I actually did see your message earlier and made some phone enquiries of people who might have had copies, but only in the last hour managed to get me a copy. I'm now curious to know who reported it myself, although it literally could have been anybody. My guess is someone watchlisted it after seeing our discussion on WP:WA. Thanks for letting me know :) Orderinchaos78 14:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most people are away at the moment so it didn't happen for last night - I proposed the 31st as an alternative but noone firmly agreed to it. I expect it will be rescheduled shortly. Orderinchaos78 23:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Simpsons episode

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Cleared that error. Made it a separate line. The other version pushes the entire page down about three lines. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perth Meetup Notification

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Wikimania 2008

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Reminder

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Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/3 is next sunday 19th August, if you haven't already please sign on the meetup page if your coming, if your still unsure indicate anyway so I can confirm numbers with the venue thankyou Gnangarra 00:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear User:M Johnson

As a member of the "WikiProject Australian rules football" it would be good to hear your opinion on a current debate occurring on the 2018 AFL season talk page.

The debate centres around whether or not a third column should be included in the club attendance table to display "home state games vs. interstate opposition".

The main justification is that Victorian clubs play on average 7 home derbies each year compared to non-victorian clubs who play only 1 home derby each year. This provides an average home figure for Victorian clubs which is inflated as their home games have the fans of other Victorian clubs attending.

Please provide whether you support or oppose this proposal for AFL Club attendance tables.

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