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Happy editing! Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 22:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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Hello, I'm Lord Bolingbroke. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Jandu, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi Lulu67686, I noticed you added some sources at Jandu with this edit, but they do not verify the content that you restored. This page does not verify the claim that "Jandu clans had occupations such as farming, carpentry and blacksmiths, some then later diversified into the steel and construction industries." This source has no relation to the claim of Indian families migrating to east Africa; it just appears to be a random court case involving someone named Jandu. Furthermore, I'm not sure why it's even relevant to describe Indian migration to East Africa in this article. How does that relate at all to the name Jandu? Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 22:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- The articles I added were examples of the claims which can be used as references. I was not the first person to talk about the Indian migration to East Africa, you can check previous edits. The migration does have related with people of the Jandu heritage since that is where most if not all of them moved to and started manufacturing businesses, that is where their history resided. Could you please leave the page to how I left it since me and many of the people who added details all have the Jandu last name and I as many others have also heard from my grandparents of their lives in Kenya. The page means a lot to us could you please leave the page even if it doesn't have the most optimal sources since there's not many articles that directly talk about Jandus. We want to let others who have met or have the Jandu last name know a bit of their history if they've never heard about it before because we find it interesting. Lulu67686 (talk) 17:58, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Information on Wikipedia needs to be based on reliable sources, not the personal anecdotes of your family – see WP:Verifiability. Please do not restore the material unless you add sources that specifically describe a connection the name Jandu and the migration you are describing. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 20:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- To reiterate, the sources you've added do not support the claims in the article: Two of them are webpages of random businesses; another is a random court case involving someone with the surname Jandu; and the other is a source the Indian diaspora in Africa that doesn't mention Jandu at all. This does not satisfy Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 00:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- These aren't random businesses they are Jandu owned businesses in Kenya, the court case is also documentation proof of a Jandu in Kenya revolving around the properties and businesses they owned in Kenya. This is reliable evidence of the Jandus from India residing in Kenya being apart of the talked about industries . The other source of the Indian diaspora in Africa is about all Indians including the Indians of the Jandu clan it doesn't need to mention "Jandu" because it is referring to all indians such as the Jandus. These are all reliable sources that satisfies Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. Lulu67686 (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- General claims require general sources. Consider the sentence: "Traditionally, the Jandu clans had occupations such as farming, carpentry and blacksmiths, some then later diversified into the steel and construction industries." The webpages of one plumber and one steel company do not support this generalization. Moreover, if the Indian diaspora in Africa was from people across all of India, not just Jandus, why is it relevant to describe it in the Jandu article? It seems like that would be more appropriate in a broader article. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 00:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- These aren't random businesses they are Jandu owned businesses in Kenya, the court case is also documentation proof of a Jandu in Kenya revolving around the properties and businesses they owned in Kenya. This is reliable evidence of the Jandus from India residing in Kenya being apart of the talked about industries . The other source of the Indian diaspora in Africa is about all Indians including the Indians of the Jandu clan it doesn't need to mention "Jandu" because it is referring to all indians such as the Jandus. These are all reliable sources that satisfies Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. Lulu67686 (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2025 (UTC)