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Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Notable People with Long COVID (April 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chaotic Enby was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Many of the references (The Sun, The Daily Mail, etc.) simply aren't of the expected quality to make this kind of claims. Also, what is the inclusion criteria for "notable"? I suggest keeping it to people with an article, here or optionally on other Wikipedia language editions. Finally, a lot of the "details" column is just direct quoting from the people concerned, which is not really something we're looking for in an encyclopedia.

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Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, LCF2023! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saying only right leaning sources are not reliable, especially when Long COVID is not a right leaning cause, doesn't make much sense to me since they are major publications reporting against something they wouldn't want to promote. It seems bias on the reviewer's part. As for the quotations, they are invaluable first person accounts of the notable's Long COVID battles and Wikipedia is full of quotations. They should remain in and are very important. Additionally, every single person listed has a source, which I painstakingly added. I can review and see if there is anyone that should be removed, but I defined what notable meant in this regard in the beginning part of the page. I would appreciate another reviewer on this thank you. LCF2023 (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not all quotations, there is a good amount due to how important those are in relaying the details of their own Long COVID. It's a pretty important part of this. LCF2023 (talk) 01:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not about them being right-leaning or left-leaning, it's about them being tabloids known for their low verification standards. I suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources for more information.
You did not define what criteria you meant by "notable", only saying that the list was curated by the Long COVID Foundation. What does that mean? A foundation doesn't have ownership of a Wikipedia page, and an account isn't allowed to represent an entire foundation but should be for a single person.
You are free to submit the article again to have the input of another reviewer. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the Daily Mail and The Sun as sources and better defined notable including the phrase "in the public eye" along with some of my explanation from before. The Long COVID Foundation page is being created soon. It's a Long COVID non-profit and part of what we do is bring more awareness to this serious health issue, hence the creation of this Wikipedia Page. LCF2023 (talk) 02:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is recommended not to create articles about yourselves. Also, you're not allowed to have a "company" account, accounts should represent a single person. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Notable People with Long COVID (April 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Wikishovel was:

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at List of people with long COVID instead.

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Wikishovel (talk) 06:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a list of any person with Long COVID like that one is. This is a list of notable people, which is important because people don't think the famous can get Long COVID, but they do. It's also incredibly more detailed, this took several days to do even with having already curated this information in the past, with an accurate description of Long COVID. Please reconsider. LCF2023 (talk) 19:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence of List of people with long COVID says This is a list of notable people with long COVID. I genuinely don't see the difference. Feel free to add information to the already existing list if you have good sourcing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:25, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're not all notable or athletes, etc.. One person is a person that's known for having Long COVID only. I know Long COVID quite well thus I'm aware. I've looked at that and I've curated this list a long time ago. There is a difference and this was brutal to compile and finish on Wikipedia. It's an important list for an important problem. Look forward to approval. 47.18.249.246 (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Notable People with Long COVID (April 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Shadow311 was:

The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at List of People with Long COVID. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Shadow311 (talk) 19:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]