User talk:Kuaichik

Welcome

Hello, Kuaichik, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am Deepu Joseph (a.k.a. thunderboltz). Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• If you need help, post a question at the Help Desk or ask me on my talk page.
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Again, welcome! And if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask - Just click here to leave me a message; or add {{helpme}} to this page.
thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK}

Yes, please keep up with the great work you are doing. I hope I dont overwhelm you, but I'm dropping a few more links that might interest you:

Also, check out the Kerala Noticeboard.

Btw, noticed you mentioning that you can speak 13 languages. Wow! Thats some feat. It would be nice if you could list them per WP:BABEL. Cheers, and happy editing!-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}14:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Why, where and how did you learn all of 'em up?? O_O

And about the french page: Absolutement! Be my guest. Fr:Utilisateur:Deepujoseph is all yours. :-) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}07:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Kumaran Asan

Added a couple of comments here. Tintin (talk) 05:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Français, Ankur et al

I wish I had the kind of linguistic ability to learn languages off books. Anyway, kudos to you for that! I learned french two years back at school. I've never had to use it much since, and hence I've forgotten most of it, especially the grammar. But still, I can read and understand it pretty well. Thanks for designing my user page there. Its absolument terrific! ;-)
From Wikipedia:Stub, Once a stub has been properly expanded and becomes an article rather than just a stub, you or any editor may remove the stub tag from it. No administration action or formal permission is needed. Since you've done a pretty good job and expanded the article, you can reove the tag right away. Only very short pages that have scope for further improvement need the tag.
You can nominate the interesting fact directly to Template talk:Did you know. If it gets selected there, it will be added to Portal:India too.(If the nomination fails, you can add it to the Indian portal directly.) But before you nominate, you should see that the article is well sourced and neutral. Also (I'm sure you must've already read the rules, but...) remember that you have to nominate within 5 days of creation of the article. So go ahead - source the article, then nominate it for DYK. Also think of adding Template:Infobox Film to the article. Good luck. Keep your fingers crossed after the nom. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}04:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Lol, looking at the history, it seems you had a fun time editing the article. ;-)

Anyways, citing sources is easy. Did you take a look at WP:CITE? Also, you neednt source each and every line. Sourcing the storyline is unnecessary too, IMO. Only the facts in the lead need to be sourced. And the best way to do it, is using the <ref> tags. See this example I've used. However, do note that it is not necessary to use the {{cite web}} that I've used. You might as well write <ref>[http://www.redhotcurry.com/entertainment/films/bollywood/ankur.htm Red Hot Country]</ref>, and it will do. Also, if you can get an image from/of the film, you can upload it here under Fairuse license. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}06:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Lol, nice comparison. ;-) Good job with the DYK. Cross your fingers and hope that it gets selected. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}12:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Just noticed that you got the second reference wrong.A simple syntax of referencing is like this:<ref>[http://theURLhere.com Whatever text here]</ref>. Try setting it like this. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}12:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you've done it correctly! When the code <references/> is added at the end, all the references you provided will appear there. Try clicking on the [1] or [2] now. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}12:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

de-intenedBilinguial messages adipoli thanne. I'm amazed at your grasp of the language and culture of India, despite living in America. You must be some sort of budhijeevi. :P
Pinne, Indic text add cheyan unicode fonts mati. You can use some of the tools given on Wikipedia:Enabling complex text support for Indic scripts for easy typing. I particularly like the one called Braha IME. Give it a try.-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Ankur (film)

On 11 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ankur (film), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Good job on the expansion on the article! It's on the front page now under "Did you know". Take care -- Samir धर्म 06:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Bahut shukriya Samir Saab! --Kuaichik 13:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey!! Been pretty much occupied the whole day. Please accpet my belated congratulations on your first DYK!!! Abhinandhanagal, maashae! :-) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}18:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Pazhaya pattukal

Hadn't you said somewhere in your user page that you are interested in old mallu songs ? Atho njan swapnam kandathano !? I can't now see it there or in its older versions. Tintin (talk) 12:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanka thazhika kutamalla...thaarapadhathile radhamalla... Athu Pearl viewil alle ? I am from Muvattupuzha. When you have nothing better to do please take a look at User:Tintin1107/List of Malayalam movies from 1951 to 1960, User:Tintin1107/List of Malayalam Movies from 1961 to 1970 and User:Tintin1107/List of Malayalam movies from 1971 to 1975 and add songs where you can remember them. Bakki madi kaaranam cheythilla. Tintin (talk) 12:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Or Filmography of G. Devarajan. But with this one, you have to be careful not to make errors. Tintin (talk) 12:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

Yes, that is fine. You can do that, given that you select the correct licenses for the images on the French wiki too (which might be a bit daunting task). My bad in not having uploaded the images onto Wikimedia Commons, which would've made it available across all the (language) wikis. I suggest that you upload the file onto commons and use it on the French wiki. Cheers!-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}08:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

ചിങ്ങമാസം വന്നേ.....ഓണം ഇനി ദിവസങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം അകലെ... ഈ കാത്തിരിപ്പിനും ഒരു സുഖം.....പുതുവല്‍സരാശംസകള്‍ നേരുന്നു....ഈ വര്‍ഷം സന്തോഷങ്ങളും ഐശ്വര്യങ്ങളും നിറഞ്ഞതായിരിക്കെട്ടെ എന്നാശംസിക്കുന്നു-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}14:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Fan Li page

Not until you left a message on my talk page that I knew there exists a page by the name Fan Li. I have no idea, by that I mean no verifiable source, that Fan Li and Phạm Lãi was the same person. However, after reading that article (vi:Phạm Lãi), I came to the conclusion that Fan Li and Phạm Lãi are nothing but different transliterations of the one person's name -- both articles relate to zh:范蠡, both mention him working for Yue at the Spring and Autumn period, both mention that he was sent to Wu as a hostage...

By the way, fluently in 13 languages, eh? I'm truly impressed. Namaste ... Mekong Bluesman 19:49, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi... I just rewrote Midnapore because it required some work from a native of the place :P. I was looking at the "what links there" and saw that you mentioned Midnapore at some point in time as a "failed" wiki. Since you've followed the topic for a while, could you please take some time to see if my expansion has made it a little better? :D

By the way smashing work on Ankur (film). I love Shyam Benegal's other films too so I'll see if I can lend a hand with Nishant, Suraj ka Satvan ghoda and Sardari Begum

Of course, all of these still ongoing projects. Take care. --Antorjal 02:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Ankur, Midnapore and other ramblings.

I've changed both sections. Thanks for reading it and letting me know. I've changed "water is a precious commodity" to "water is a scarce resource" and also the weird sounding POV on "brightest district". There are problems with revamping an article that already exists. For one, some of the language sticks around and makes the whole damn thing sound uneven. A problem with being a native is that POVs do tend to come in, whether or not consciously or unconsciously I have no friggin' clue. So, I'm really glad you read it. Hack and slash whatever you feel like, dude. That's what wiki is about isn't it?

Re: films, I am a huge film fanatic. The whole Netflix thing got me watching some really cool movies that I would never have seen had they not been readily available on DVD coast-to-coast. I had watched a lot of films growing up but mostly stuff my parents watched (or in other words stuff in Bengali). I had come to the false conclusion that all Hindi films were inferior in quality, but thanks to Netflix I've changed my perspective... oh and man, you have to see Nishant. It is way beyond good, it is phenomenal. And I have a vested interest too... We'd all get a great article on that film too. Cheers. --Antorjal 02:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments... I guess I'm a little over a decade older than you... LOL. I'll look through the Ankur page thoroughly tomorrow after work. It is after all, one of my favorite films too; unfortunately, I am not totally familiar with all customs from Andhra Pradesh but I'll see what I can do. And ya you're right. I AM pretty new at this; It is a nightmare, man, especially for people who try to use English correctly. LOL. There is so much information that is POV, unsubstantiated, incoherent, and downright numbing here that I guess the more people working at one time the better. Take care.--Antorjal 04:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Bobanum Moliyum

The Bobanum Moliyum page that your home page links to is adipoli. Tintin (talk) 08:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I have not heard of Balamithram, so I am not sure. Is it an independent magazine or was it attached to another publication (like Balarama to Malayala Manorama) ? There was a Sara John who used to write occasionally in Balarama in the early 80s (though I just can't remember anything that she wrote). Would that be your grandmother by any chance ? Tintin (talk) 16:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Try to find some ref which can establish it that it is the first children's magazine (or atleast that it is the oldest existing one - which it should be). Can you also try to get some figures about its circulation now and when it was at its peak. Tintin (talk) 06:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Pratitdwandi

Yeah I've seen it though it's been about 15 years (believe it or not). I might not remember how it ended. But I'll try to answer any questions if I know. And HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!--Antorjal 21:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Kuaichik is hereby awarded the Exceptional Newcomer Award in recognition of his meritorious contributions.--thunderboltz

Oh ****!! I missed it. Belated B'day greetings from me, dude. And here is a well deserved gift for you. Surprise! :)-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 06:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Anirban here... Sorry for the late response. I'm trying to get this company on the West Coast to rent me this copy of the film so I can watch it again. Reading your post made me feel like I should see this movie once more. It's been about a week, still no sign of the dvd in the mailbox. From what I remember, I think Dhritiman's haracter narrated the letter saying something about futility and then there was the Ram naam satya hai incident. I'll give you more details once I see the film again. Take care. --Antorjal 16:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Can I interest you in writing a review then for Pratidwandi? I still haven't got the dvd and have lost hope now but I can help out with what I vaguely remember. :D --Antorjal 02:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Let's do a collaborative effort on Sonar Kella then... it's one of my favorite films and fresh in my mind. :) Take care. --Antorjal 21:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Bengal Famine

Hello Kuaichik,

You edited this article saying it is false to say there have been no famines in India post-independence. Specifically you wrote that there was a famine in Kerala. Do you have numbers of the extent of this famine? A shortage of rice is not a famine per se. Till you provide these details I am reverting back to the old version.

Thanks!

Jayanta Sen 18:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello Vijay,

Thanks for your reply. I think your offer is fair, I will make the changes.

Regards,

Jayanta

Dear friend, Thanks for ur help.There's debate going on at Belgaum page and we are building consensus.I would request u to to post ur views at http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:Belgaum#.22.E0.A4.B3.22_in_Hindi.3F on Belgaum:talk

I wanted to link ur comment from that talk page,but I dunno how to do tht.mahawiki 04:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello again Kuaichik, I left a reply for you on my talk page. If you place my talk page on your watchlist we can continue the discussion there. Alternatively if you wish to have the discussion on your page I can place it on my watchlist. Regards, JS 20:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Anganaayo?! Gee, sorry...

No no. I received a lot of unusual requests (from different editors) like "What is your opinion on Industrialisation in South India" and a couple of translation requests. He didnt bother me at all. I actually like replying to odd questions, for that matter. Send more of 'em in!!-- thunderboltz^(Deepu) 03:19, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

All the best

Really sad to see this. Do drop in now and then. All the best with your research. Take care.--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 13:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Haha. Thankal oru sambhavam thanae annallo. I'm truely impressesd with the idea of Translit search. But I couldnt see it working, 'coz the search button links it to the local server. Take a look, and let me know when it is fixed. Future Bill Gates-o Larry Page-o ayyal nammalae onnum marakallae. ;-) --thunderboltz^(Deepu) 06:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey! Nice to see you back. Thanks for the congratulations. You were mentioned in my rfa nomination. :) The trasnlit search works well now. Good work. What are your plans for it? I highly recommend the book The Google Story by David A Vise. Should serve as inspiration for you. ;-) Good luck!--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 05:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi... how have you been doing? Haven't heard from you in a while. Any new movies you've seen lately? Take care, man. --Antorjal 13:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Here's wishing you and your loved ones a very Merry Xmas and a prosperous '07 ahead!--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 18:48, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the Xmas gift and the kind words you left on my user page. I am indeed humbled! Hope you are having a great Christmas. Regards, thunderboltz^(Deepu) 18:48, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Maashae, I really don't deserve so many barnstars. These are all part of the day's work...--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 10:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

And regarding the template, yes you can do that. Go to http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Plantilla:Satyajit Ray and copy the code from Template:Satyajit Ray to there, doing the necessary translations. Also remember to add the interwiki links.--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 10:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It probably has something to do with the MediaWiki version that both the wikipedias are using. I remember instances of it not appearing at first on en.wiki also. I've changed to a different navigational template now. You can see more such templates at Template:Navigation#See_also.

By the way, the english namespaces work on all wikipedias. That is, http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Template:blah_blah would automatically redirect to http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Plantilla:blah_blah. So that wasnt so much trouble for me. ;-) thunderboltz^(Deepu) 07:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

"they" njan ayirunnu. I switched the templates. :-D --thunderboltz^(Deepu) 07:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Now c'mooon Vijay, this is too overwhelming. A simple "thank you" is more than enough. I really really do not deserve this one. As I said earlier, these are all just part of a days work.--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 13:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

lol, there is nothing to apologise for. :-)--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 18:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

ethoru sammana mazha thanna. daa orennam koodi vannu. lol.--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 10:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Aparajito plot

Hi! Of course the edits done by you were excellent. What I did (many months back) was just a beginning sort of thing. Nowadays I hardly get the time to visit Satyajit Ray movie articles :( Anyway, I have noticed you are improving those articles continuously. Thanks for the effort. Do you have any plans for improving any one of the movie articles extensively? And subsequent run for FA? The first choice that comes in mind is of course Pather Panchali. --Dwaipayan (talk) 08:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Ankur is your favorite, right? Well, I have not read the article thoroughly. However one thing that is conspicuously absent is "Production". Have to build it properly if you have plans to go for FAC. Tenebrae (film) is an excellent film-related FA. You can try to follow that format/style. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

thik! Info on Pather Panchali production is more easily available. Lage Raho Munna Bhai is in FAC at present. You can check out the comments posted in the FAC.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for that expalnation to Thanungu perukku. :) Jisha (Talk) 09:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

reg. Spanish platina

Sorry for the delay. By the time I saw your 2nd message (today morning IST), the article was already deleted. Their policies seem to be very different from that on the English wikipedia. Anyway, you can still include a list of the films on the page. Copy the code of the template and manually insert them to each of the pages below the external links. The trouble with this, is that you'll have to manually fix each and every future update on all of these pages. But I think this could be the only other option. Why exactly are they against templates? The line issue is pretty technical, and (it) depends on the screen resolution of the user. I cant see how it can make a good criterion...--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 14:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Pather Panchali

Started the section "Production", borrowing from Satyajit Ray (which is an FA). Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Roma people

Thanks for your message. My interest is as someone who writes about languages, and, necessarily, gets interested in the people who speak them. Yes, I might well have a question to ask you now and then. I admire Ian Hancock's work and have often found it useful. Best wishes Andrew Dalby 12:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Greetings

Happy Holi !!--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Hi

Hello! Great to know you are still editing. Things are pretty much the same with me, but I've grown to ignore them for the most part now. Am yet to get back to any serious editing. Just doing random vandal reverts and the like.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 07:25, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry for taking so long to handle that issue. I was having exams. I've taken care of it now.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 16:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Lol, I guess I created a lot of stubby articles back then. ;-P

I've added a cite now. The Hindi version isn't as popular as the Malayalam version. Also, I just noticed that we don't have an article on the Manorama weekly. It is one of the highest selling magazines in India too.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 10:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Samudaripen

Xatyardem but mishto so phendyan, Desi phrala! :) Me phirau te janau sa e ortografiye e may labyarde. Vi aver variyante thay diyalekturya e Romane chibake (nashti te phenau ke xatyarau sa e mandaimata, ama akana sa xatyardem). I understood very well what you said. I try to be updated with the most used orthographies. Somehow with other Romani variants and dialects (I can't guarantee I know the meanings everytime, but now all was comprehensible).

About Samudaripen, you are right, I modified there accordingly. I saw you also edited something at Time of the Gypsies. Somebody put it a the Category:Roma culture, then I transferred it at Category:Romani culture. In fact, most of the film presents a Gypsist view, it is not really about the Romani culture, but I left it like this, because I have previous experiences of edit wars with enthousiasts who really belive it is about Romani life (this until there will be external links that present them as Gypsist). The same for Black Cat, White Cat, and the like. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 09:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, personally, I think there may be found traces of Romanipen the same as in films like Kama Sutra: A Tale of Love or The Party there may be found traces of how are the Desis. What I mean is that such films are made for the others not for the people they say they describe, this is their main public target. In the Romani case, they are never popular among Roma. There was somewhere at ERRC's site a presentation of the Romani reception of Gadjo dilo, expressing the usual Romani discontent with such films. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 08:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

The problem here is that when someone watches for a long time the colour black, then even the gray may appear white. I remember too, in the 1990s, when I saw Time of the Gypsies (first from the Gypsy film series) and I said: wow, a film about us, in Romani. But after some time as I grew up and also my standards became more selective, all the flows of such films became hard to digest. I mean it is obvious the the actors playing main characters, Perhan and Ahmet, are Gaje and the film as a whole is not made to be interesting for the Roma. There were not yet made films comparable with Bollywood for the the Romani people, to be interesting from a Romani point of view. About the reception in USA, well, they are far away from the Balkans and the film may look escapist just because it happens in an uncertain area. But for someone who lives in the Balkans, is not the same. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 05:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's the article. About the colour comparison, I meant that in a country like Romania there is a strong embargo on Romani expression in the public sphere, although we are an important part of the society (10-12%), it's all dark in this respect (I meant the lack of light, I'll be more careful not to use this type of colour comparison). Thus when there appear grey area movies, they may look interesting (at least at the beginning) because there is nothing else to choose. In fact me, and probably many other Roma, see in such films what the non-Roma think about us, what are the new trends in their imagination. But, especially when I see non-Romani reaction believing that this is the Romani culture, and not their opinions about Roma, I begin to see the harm they do for those who do not know how really are the Roma. For the non-Roma these films tend to be documentaries about Roma, for the Roma the same films tend to be documentaries about the non-Romani imagination. We should be also up to date, to know what to expect from them!

About the fact that I would know better than you what Romanies generally think, well, this is also a very complex area. For many Roma, the self-perception and the worldview is strongly influenced by the Gypsification process. For example, after last week's incident, when Romania's president named a journalist "stinking Gypsy" (an usual derogatory expression used by non-Roma in Romania, but usually avoided in the public sphere for fear of being branded as racist) the Romanian BBC could find a Romni saying that this is how we are, stinky. While this is obviously a fallacy, there are enough Roma who began to believe they are not Roma, but the Gypsies from the non-Romani imagination.

So, personally, I crave for both Bollywood-like popular films and for cultural non-mainstream flims (like many of those starring Tabu, Konkona Sen Sharma or Shabana Azmi). This is what I have in mind as a comparision to really Romani films. I think even Salaam Bombay could not be among these swadesi films. As I read somewhere (and I saw confirmed for myself what I used to think), it is just one among those films appreciated by non-Desis, where poverty and exotism sells. There are enough Desi films about poverty, but their approach is usually more caring, more attentive for the Desi sensibility and cultural points of interest, more oriented towards solutions, not just presenting the unusual things from a non-Desi point of view. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 10:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

For me, the classical example is Disney's cartoon of Kipling's Jungle Book. During the Communist regime in Romania (that meant an important part of my childhood) there was a strong censorship to avoid that people get any ideas to overthrow the oppresion. Thus there were several films and cartoons that kept repeating again and again. The Jungle Book was among them, since it was not considered dangerous. That's how an entire generation grew up imagining the Indians living in jungle, close to the wild animals. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 10:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

On Michael Madhusudan Dutt

I appreciate your concerns on the article. I do not really mind your putting the template back. I agree that the article tends to be hagiographical and is often without citations, but then it might be a better idea to ask Wikipedians who are currently working on Bengal related content. Best, LordGulliverofGalben 05:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey Wow!

It is very rare that someone I message while editing in IP joins and then lets me know. Glad to have you aboard. You seem to be doing great work! --Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 16:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I am sorry that you have not found admins to be a friendly group overall. We certainly vary nearly as much as do the overall users of wikipedia. --Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 19:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Keep up the great work! --Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 15:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Awards

Wow, thanks a lot for those awards! Yes, unfortunately it seems that, by now, I am the only eastern European Romani editor (let's hope it won't last long this situation). At the beginning, when rmy.wp was in the test phase, also meta:User:Naayram contributed (I see now that at his "User contributions" it appears nothing, probably because the test wiki was erased or there were major changes in meta.wp's database in the meantime). He has intermittent Internet acces, that's why he did not show up afterwards. But I keep contact with him and I hope he will reappear at Wikipedia (in fact he is more into linguistics than me, into organizing a modern Romani language, to be used in every field, I'm more into social areas).

Ronline is Romanian and Gangleri is German from Romania. They helped me at technical issues when this wiki was set up. Ronline was also the proposer and the main supporter (with his knowledge of wiki envionment) at meta.wp. In fact the initial user interface was in Romanian and it is not yet entirely translated, so here and there they may appear Romanian words. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 09:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, it is just a matter of time to complete the translation of all the MediaWiki files. It takes much longer than a simple translation, because almost all are technical terms, that nobody thought until now how would they be expressed in Romani. Me and Naayram tried to keep all in the framework of a pure Romani language, coming with all kind of linguistic solutions, like Naayram's shopni ("ladder") for "category" or my sikavno ("indicator", "guide") for "template". In his parts of translations, Naayram managed to keep all in the limits of the original Romani and of the Indo-Aryan neologisms (that meant also that he did not translate where he did not have ideas for such counterparts). Later, when I had no ideas, I added Romani pronunciations of Gajikane words, in order to see the completing of the translation of important parts. However, I hope for the day when there will be more contributors to come with their own ideas, to debate them and to see how it would look like a popular modern Romani language. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 21:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

No worries

You're welcome :) It's part of the job for an admin really, plus I have the past experience from another case in dealing with these sorts of situations. See other replies at Desiphral's talk page (thought it best to just put them at one place to avoid confusion :)) Orderinchaos 02:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

There's actually no policy or guidelines prohibiting it but it does increase the risk of the perception of a conflict of interest, and therefore the safety of the decision/vulnerability to appeal. The main question at DRV is "did the closing admin err in reading consensus" and if an admin is not seen to be neutral, they might be accused of ignoring points of view contrary to their own and the decision might be overturned there. I do sometimes close uncontroversial ones I have voted on. Orderinchaos 02:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

One week block expired. It really should be reinstituted given his aggressive sockpuppetry during the period of his block, and extended. Orderinchaos 21:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, here is the block log with the time lengths. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 09:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Prof. Ian Hancock

Of course, it is more than welcomed. For me it was the same as in the previous issue of the neuter case at "Romani history": I saw at a quick view that, overall, the article needs major improvements and I hoped for the day when I'd have enough time to make them. Of course, a basic thing would have been the acknowledgement of the writtings on Romani people and language (now I wonder how the article existed so much time even without such short acknowledgement). Is the info from that book the same or related to that from ON ROMANI ORIGINS AND IDENTITY: QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION or Romani Origins and Romani Identity: A Reassessment of the Arguments? Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 19:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice to hear of your contribution and I'm looking forward to the book's release :) I consider too that his article is not a stub now, so I deleted the tags. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 08:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I consider the theories should be included and also the proofs that support them. About the question 'section or subsection', I think it depends on their overall weight in the article. I'm thinking, wouldn't it look more focused two separate sections Creole language studies and Romani studies? Since, as you wrote there, the work about Romani people is more than on linguistic level. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 21:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Award

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		This barnstar goes to Kuaichik for the fruitful community work on Romani related issues. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 10:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for your efforts, your presence here makes a difference. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 10:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Something like this, just the word order is different than in बहुत धन्यवाद/शुक्रिया, being नायिस तुके बुत (well, I switched to Devnagari, but you may see also live the reasons, for an educated Rom it comes naturally). But, who knows, there may be variants with the order बुत नायिस तुके, as there are variations of this kind. And I should say नाय सोस्के "there is no what for" (a kind of "don't mention it"), at least this is used in the area of Romania :) Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 19:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Ralph Lilley Turner

I don't know more specific information about him. However, as you pointed too to the search, the birthyear from here being the same 1888 as for the the person with the middle name Lilley, which here is cited with the full name for the same book is enough evidence for being the same person. So I think it can be added safely to his wiki article The Position of Romani in Indo-Aryan. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 15:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The Romani Wikiproject

No problem, as you may see, me too I'm out of Wikipedia even for an entire day. Great to see you also on board, let's hope we'll do something good (well, in our spare time..) Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 21:57, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, in this case, yes. It is not representative for the Romani culture, but it currently affects the Romani people. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 09:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Romani studies and Creole language studies?

I was thinking about that too. Plus, what do you think about naming the section as Creole language studies, to make a distinction from the Romani studies, since the latter involves more that the Romani langauge proper? Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 20:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Ne syr? :)

Kuch phrala, lately I became very busy in real life, situation that may last at least another week. Thus I do only minimal edits. I read your proposed reply to Prof. Yaron Matras and I think it is a good work (as for me, again, a bit later I'll be able to join the discussion more consistently).

As for ne syr I have no idea of such a dialectal expression. The only similarity from my area of linguistic knowledge to come to my mind would be ne = what in Turkish, but I think it may not be the case here. Thus, when I saw it I had too the impression of a Russian borrowing or just a Russian expression, which seems to be supported by your proposed variant. I suppose she would be pleased to clarify what it means, especially when you have knowledge of Russian. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 06:41, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Kuch means dear (in other context it may mean also expensive for prices), I didn't talk to you for some time and I considered to use this word to reinforce the phralipe :). Feel free to ask me whenever there may appear something unclear like this. It is pronounced /kuc/ (not /kucʰ/). As you can see lately I tend to use at Romani Wikipedia the spelling that would write this word as kuc, after a discussion I had here with user A R King (keeping in mind that c/ts anyway are written in Devnagari as त्स). However I'm still not sure which would be the best suited and sometimes, as in this context, I use the ch to hint better to the pronunciation (after I saw your spelling for cini/tsini). Well, the communication matters first and, as I wrote also to A R King, the spelling may vary in order to achieve it. While, for me personally, Devnagari proves to be and remains the most natural and articulate writing system for the Romani sound system. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 07:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I had too in mind kuchh/कुछ, that's why I felt the need of a clarification. Great to hear that Chand arrived back (thus I guess you just are not asleep at this hour, otherwise I would have had the impression that you changed also the time zone :)). Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 08:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

So, it looks like you had a sangeet session there!

I read your draft about Romani people and crime and I think it is really useful. I could not answer yesterday, again because of the lack of enough time. About Lilith, indeed, it looks like she has a Wikibreak. As for Euro Gypsy, to me its quite obvious that the user is a sockpuppet, is fake, regarding the focus of the presentation and of the edits. I think your commentary of Prof. Yaron Matras' opinion may be presented as a start for a debate about the origin issue, just until now I did not have the time to think thoroughly to address some of his points of view I didn't know before. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 12:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I changed at the language templates Kadalo to Kado (in fact as you proposed also first) because it exists the plural Kadala but at singular it is used Kado or Kadava. Now I saw that at the templates at Romani Wikipedia it appeared the correct form Kadala only in the main category, the others had Kadale (and I changed them accordingly), I don't know how this mistake occurred, probably a writing mistake spreaded by copy and paste, although it looks similar to a short pronunciation of the oblique form Kadalen. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 13:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Euro Gypsy has no consistency as a person, does not "hit" any Romani issue, on this I base my opinions (I agree they are not at all absolute criteria, but I choose to come with this opinion). It has nothing to do with the issue of the "Gypsy" naming, you saw that to RomanyChaj I just presented my point of view, but in no way I questioned the identity. On the other hand this Euro Gypsy "hits" the points of view of Dpotop (I know them from the first months of this year, when there was a tough debate about the Romani population in Romania) and issues concerning Romania, like the dislike of many ethnic Romanians about the almost homonymy Romani-Romanian (especially from this year when Romania became EU member). However, I hope for clarifications and dialogue, as you can see in what I write at Talk:Romani people (of course, not to forget to mention your own interventions that make a big difference, really; plus the moral support that matters so much). Btw, in the phrase, They were and are never scared of other people, the same as we are., is it necessary to add at the end an not, in order to make clear that we are never scared too? Or is it necessary to reorganize the phrase? Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 23:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's OK about your current status. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 09:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

reply

The category is out of place. Christians in Asia are categorized by nationality not ethnicity. He is an Indian Christian, and the article still says that. Otherwise the Indian christian cat will be split into hundreds of mini categories.Bakaman 18:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, the main problem is, "Indian" here is confusing. It mixes up a "India" as in British India (a larger pre-1947 entity comprising of current day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), with "India" as in "Republic of India" (the post-1947 republic, much smaller). Indian christian is, therefore, quite ambiguous. --Ragib 18:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Michael_Madhusudan_Dutt#Not_a_Bengali_Christian.3F, lets discuss at that page.Bakaman 18:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Romani people

Because you are working on articles about that I will give you data for Croatia. If we look last census (2001) in Croatia is living 9463 Romani people. Source for this statement is [1] . Until next time. --Rjecina 00:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC

Naj soske!

Thanks for your comments on my editor review, and also thanks for teaching me a phrase in Romani! I'm quite a language aficionado, learning useful phrases in interesting languages is one of my more idiosyncratic hobbies...anyhow, I've always wanted to learn a bit of Romani, could you perhaps be so kind as to point me in the direction of a good website that might list some such useful phrases?

Incidentally, I hope to be able to actually work on the Romani people article sometime, and not confine myself to fighting off assorted trolls and cranks on the talk page...I'm quite interested in Romani culture and contemporary issues (not to mention another of my obsessions in life, folklore!) but still lamentably ignorant at this point. Hopefully I'll get a chance to further my knowledge sometime soon...

Thanks again, and best wishes! K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 03:11, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

...now that you mention it, I was a little unclear on that, just kept saying it because it's fun to say. Anyway, thanks for clearing it up...I've got a bad habit of staying up till 3 AM lately (like right now) so my brain isn't really working...K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 07:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Esma Redžepova

I was devastated myself when I realised that Esma isn't even mentioned in the article and I thought people would be grateful if I do it for them. When I started reading your message (opening with LOL! Gosh...) I thought you were making fun of me. Maybe the fact that she lives in Macedonia is the problem here, but anyhow, she has to be at least mentioned in the main article! Thanks for the support ;) INkubusse 14:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

more Romani stuff

I think I knew that about Charlie Chaplin, but I'd never heard that Clinton was part Romani!!! Sheesh, for all the hype he made about being "America's first black president", turns out he was maybe more like the first Romani president. ;-)

Incidentally, what's your take on the word "Gypsy"? I still use it occasionally (usually describing things like "gypsy music", most of which isn't really authentic Romani anyway) but it seems a lot of people are terribly offended by it...is it really as bad as "nigger* or "yid"??? K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 01:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Yikes, I'll be careful to never say it around Romanian Romani then! When talking to ordinary everyday folk around here though, if I said "Romani" no one would have a clue what I meant, so usually any time I say "Gypsy" it's just to avoid massive confusion. :)) K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 02:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, that's a fairly easy rule to remember. btw, is Romani written in that Indian-type script like in Desiphral's signature?! If it is, I'm sunk...I can handle Cyrillic, but that's about it--couldn't even learn to read Hebrew.K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 04:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Aaah. I didn't realize it didn't have its own script...much less "since most Romanies are illiterate". Wow. I appreciate the bluntness there, really makes the starkness of the situation quite visible...for heaven's sake, people are always talking about what "parasites" the Romanies are, well how much use can they make themselves in the modern world if they can't even read? And how can they get the opportunity to get a decent education if they're so poor all they can worry about is where their next meal is coming from?!?! Somehow this never quite hit home before, but now it sure has and I'm furious!! Next time I hear some jackass taking a piss on the Romanies for all the "usual reasons", I'm either going to sock him one in the jaw (if it's a real-life encounter) or drop a large payload of F-bombs and other choice obscenities on him (if an on-line meeting.) (actually there's a specific obnoxious Hungarian blogger I'm thinking of...he'd better watch his fat mouth or else feel my wrath!)

• tries to stop the steam billowing out my ears*....anyway, I hadn't realized that you actually took one of Prof. Hancock's courses--neat!! I may have to look for some of his books. Also, is "Vlax" (as in Vlax Romany) related to the word Vlach? K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 05:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, being multilingual is the only way to go these days. Besides English I'm only functional in Russian (and it's gotten really bad lately since I haven't spoken it for months), my Hungarian is a work-in-progress to be polite about it and my Czech is all but non-existent. :(

Thanks for taking the time to discuss all this stuff btw, it's very interesting and I appreciate being able to pick your brains for knowledge. I need to get some sleep too...good night! K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 05:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, you're one Romani up on me then. :P How many languages do you speak, anyway!? K. Lásztocska ^{Review me?} 22:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm enjoying our new tradition of late-night idea-swapping, banter and intellectual jousting! :-) Although I must say that, out of context, this may be one of the weirdest edit summaries I've ever seen... K. Lásztocska 04:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks like we'd best gird our loins for some interesting times on the Romani People article tomorrow--the Finnish guy is clearly waiting for the clock to strike midnight on August 13 (when the semiprotection is lifted) and I'm certain we'll have trouble on our hands. K. Lásztocska 20:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

What time zone is Wikipedia in, anyway? GMT?

Knowing how the page-protection people think, we'll have to wait until there's actual vandalism going on--so we're going to just have to let Finland do his thing for a while (reverting diligently of course.) I wish we could just get indefinite semiprotection, doing this every two weeks is going to be *such* a pain...K. Lásztocska 22:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Fifteen minutes...man your post...K. Lásztocska 23:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I almost said "battle stations!" but decided that would imply a full-scale declaration of edit war. :P K. Lásztocska 02:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Pretty close--"szia" is short for "sziasztok". Both mean "hi", but "szia" is singular and "sziasztok" is plural. For ex. if I were just saying hi to you I'd say "szia," but if I were talking to you, Desiphral and RomanyChaj all at once, I'd say "sziasztok." (well actually if I was talking to that group of people I'd probably say however you say hello in Romani, but you get the point.) "Szervusz" and "szervusztok" work the same way, but I get the impression that both may be a little outdated--i.e. not said by anyone young enough to not remember the fall of Communism, which I sure don't. "Kösz" is indeed short for "köszönöm." K. Lásztocska 03:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Shukria

Hello Kuaichik, thanks for your kind message on my talk page. In regards to your previous post, I think Universal Hero was trying to basically say that speakers of Indo-Aryan languages, such as Gujarati or Punjabi are able to understand Bollywood movies, perhaps better than others, is because their languages are also based on Sanskrit, the ancestor of Hindustani. The A Little About Language section in this article as well as this entire reference help explain the relevancy of both Hindi and Urdu scripts in Bollywood film articles. I hope this helps! With regards, Anupam^Talk 16:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Salaam! No need to apologize! I was just trying to clarify the post. I appreciate and admire your friendliness and efforts here on Wikipedia. Yes, forgetting to sign posts is a thing we all forget here and there ;) I am glad you see the relevancy of both Hindi and Urdu in Bollywood articles. Sometimes, there are people who don't despite the references. Thanks again. Khuda hafiz, Anupam^Talk 05:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

That was a funny post! Yes, next time I should try that! :) With regards, Anupam^Talk 06:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Abhijan

Hi, I have added an intro to this article, can you review it when you get time?

regards, Jeroje 01:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)jeroje

I can completely rewrite the plot section but dare not do that to ignite wrath of some wikipedians :). But probably I would do that for the sake of the article.

regards, Jeroje 02:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)jeroje

I have completely rewritten the plot section, can you copy edit if you get time ?

thanks Jeroje 03:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)jeroje

Insanity

You'll have a tough job trying to beat me, mate ;) Will ^(talk) 03:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Kathe sem!

Ama chaches phendyan ke ni akana nai ma dosta vaxt ("But you were right saying that even now I still don't have too much available time"). I still keep being busy, but I plan to answer both at the list and at the main article. As for the sound files, I think too it would be great to have them, probably just to find out how to employ the ogg format for recording and again.. available time.

Regarding my edits in Turkish articles, evet, türkçe bilyorum, but mostly at the understanding level and with the help of a dictionary. It comes from the fact that the Balkanic Roma either come across to this language as many dialects are influenced by it (just to say that of the Spoitori from Romania) or some speak it as the first language, also it is used for self-expressing (singers like Reyhan sing in Turkish). However, this knowledge is limited mostly to the Roma and the Turks in the Balkans, for the rest of the population it is a matter of pride to show lack of knowledge about the Ottoman legacy. They tend to be ashamed that they may not be considered truly Europeans by the rest of Europe, thus this is the way they reorganize their contemporary European identity. Roma are not really considered Europeans, so this is not a problem for us. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 16:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Nice to hear about your effort in learning the language and also about the scholarship. Is the latter for Romani Studies? Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 15:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

Hey! Regarding my wikibreak, well, the thing is that I can hardly find time to edit these days. Greater commitments in real life to attend to. I was hoping to come back by August, but a return in full force seems unlikely any time soon. I do drop in now and then. My belated Onam greetings, by the way.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 16:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Interesting soap(u)-petti, dude! :-D--thunderboltz^(TALK) 05:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

And here's wishing you the most AdipoLi Birthday, ever! Enjoy!--thunderboltz^(TALK) 05:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Ka but bersha, kuch phrala! Look, another calque, coming from Romanian La mulţi ani! :)

Happy Birthday and best wishings for what you want to achieve in life! Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 10:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Adrianzax

Hi, I haven't edited Romani people much other than to revert obvious vandalism. But I did notice the particular POV that this user is pushing, and he was trying to insert the same text on Dom people (see here, but with much more inflamatory language. I warned him to stop (which he removed from his talk page), and then began editing on the Romani article.

To an extent, you could call his edits vandalism, but he could certainly argue that he is making good-faith edits. I think the bigger issue is that he is not discussing his edits, which are highly-POV (and essentially unsourced), and keeps reverting them when three other users have tried to fix the text. Just because he isn't using the "undo" button doesn't mean he isn't violating the spirit of 3RR. I'm going to let someone else fix the page this time, and if he does it again I think we would have a good case for putting him on the 3RR noticeboard. Also, as far as I understand things, vandalism and 3RR are not mutually exclusive. Dchall1 (talk) 04:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to bed now, so if someone hasn't done anything about him by tomorrow, then we can decide. It might be easier to try reporting him for vandalism first and see where that gets us. Thanks! Dchall1 (talk) 04:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Strange

Hey! Good catch—I saw that message on Dahn's page, when I wrote something, but things just flew by me. As I was saying earlier today, things are sort of getting crazy around here, maybe it's the blue moon or somethin'? I dunno, this looks real fishy, what is to be done? Turgidson (talk) 04:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of which, one of the things that irked me real bad in the past couple of days (vaguely related to this stuff, but coming from a totally different angle) is being discussed here. If you have the time (and the inclination), I would appreciate your take on it. Cheers. -- Turgidson (talk) 04:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Romani people in India?

Salaam! Thanks for your post. The reason I added the information was because the second reference I provided for the informaion box said that Lambanis were also called Romanis: "The Lambanis (a.k.a. Lambadis, Romanis) are the nomadic tribes of India. They go from place to place in search of a livelihood. They have their own language, culture and a unique social structure. It is fairly well accepted that the Gypsies found today all over eastern Europe and the Balkans actually migrated from India centuries ago." The Banjara is also a synonym for Lambanis as indicated in the first reference. I hope this helps! However, if there is information that I am missing, please let me know. Thanks! With regards, Anupam^Talk 06:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Well thanks for the information! I do not mind if you delete the current estimates albeit it would be great if you happened to come across new ones. Also, in my opinion, I think it would be a good idea to mention the relationship between the Banjara and Romani people in the article (as you did on my talk page), possibly in the history section of the article, since the two might stem from the same origin. With regards, Anupam^Talk 17:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your actions and research. Your added content is looking good! ;) With regards, Anupam^Talk 21:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I understand. Thanks for letting me know. If the information in the box is to stay, I will add some clarification in the History section. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 04:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Terazije Theatre

No problem. Thanks for reading :) LukaP

IPA again

Hey, long time. :) Could you please take a look at this? I wonder if there is an IPA for Dummies that I could read, so I dont come disturbing you with these phonetic questions every often. :P--thunderboltz^(TALK) 14:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the reply. The guy in the audio is me,so don't rely too much on that!;-) I think you can post your comment to the article's talk page.I'll be useless to do any follow-up if necessary.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 07:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Roma people

Going through the article history and the contribs of the user you mentioned, I dont see anything particularly disturbing. I couldn't find any instance of edit warring or threatening from this user either. Also, the article history seems to be reasonably fine for the past few weeks. Maybe I missed something? Could you brief me in as to what the exact root of the problem is. Was there some outside-wiki communication that caused people to leave? If you prefer, you can reply via email.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 21:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Good luck with your exam. :) --thunderboltz^(TALK) 08:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bengali and other "Pakistani" films

Wasalam! could you please help me in listing out which pages shouldn't be in Wikiproject Pakistan and are tagged with this projects talk page banner, it will help me a lot in removing those banners. Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 04:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 04:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Done with this list. Please remove or strike out the current list if more are going to come. Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 20:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Pather Panchali

Hi! How are you? Lately, I am trying to improve Pather Panchali. Since you worked a lot in the article, please have a look, and help improve it. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Please try to improve the plot, at least. I am trying to add/improve other sections. the "Awards" sections needs to be de-listed (and made into prose). Also, am thinking about a section on "Influence and legacy". Hope to take the article to peer review soon. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject films peer review of Pather Panchali

Pather Panchali, an Indian film directed by Satyajit Ray, is one of the Core articles in wikiproject film. The article is at the WikiProject Films' peer review section here. Please provide inputs. Thanks a lot. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Pather Panchali scenes

Hi! Started working on describing some notable scenes of the film. Please have a look at this sandbox. Two options are there. One, describing several scenes in multiple subsections (ala the themes section of Tenebrae (film)). The other option is a single section of "scenes" (in which case it will be much larger, even after cutting and copyediting). Please help. If we can reach a respectable look, the section can be included in the article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Kozhencherry

To redirect Kozhenchery and Kozhencheri to Kozhencherry you only need to add #REDIRECT[Kozhencherry]]. --Rajesh Kakkanatt 05:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC) talk

Thanks, Rajesh. And sorry for being late again, Kuaichik. I've got myself involved in too many stuff that I don't get time to spend on any of them. Been a loong time since I checked my talk page, let alone edit any articles. If you are having trouble with the Roma people article again, it would help to get an active admin involved. My case is very uncertain, as I cannot guarantee when next I would be able to spend some time here, as much as I'd like to. Sorry.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 11:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi

It seems you have a problem with me, I didn't cause the protection of the article "origin of romanians" page for the simple reason that I was the one who contacted the admins to protect it. It's the 10th time when invent things about me and I think it's more then enough and soon someone will take care of your behaviour Rezistenta (talk) 10:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Incivility

Hello Kuaichik. I'm here to warn you against incivility towards another editor, Rezistenta. This sort of incivility is not acceptable within our civility policy, and if you continue, you may be blocked. Please resolve your differences, and refrain from indirect personal attacks against other editors. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 13:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. :) Np problem. Let's put it behind us and start afresh. All the best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

no time

No time for FAC :( Hope it passes GAC. Otherwise, the plan would be shelved for now.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

you can speak thirteen languages??? wow!!!--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

IMO you can do the GAC. However, if you think you should not, you can always raise the concerns in the talk page.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Roma people

Thanks. Although I only specifically thanked Istvan for keeping a cool head, the contributions I've seen from you have been equally helpful and NPOV. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 19:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

my undramatic return

Italy was lovely, though a bit more culture shock than I expected. I now have absolutely no idea what to write on-Wiki. Suggestions please. K. Lásztocska^talk 16:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

In fact I just saw the recent-ish contributions to the drama....I honestly don't know where to begin with that. K. Lásztocska^talk 23:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but we'd have to contact an admin from, like, Outer Mongolia or something--any Romanian or Hungarian or Czech or heaven forbid, Romani would only get accused of bias and POV ten orders of magnitude more than an ordinary editor. Honestly, sometimes the Hobbesian madness of this place makes me wish Jimbo would impose martial law. K. Lásztocska^talk 00:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

India's a good bet, US too politically incendiary by its very existence. :) (it's, um, great to be back.) Right now I'm enjoying myself cleaning up the articles on medieval Hungarian leaders, but if you need some help/advice/diplomacy/someone to scream swear words in Italian at the combatants, just drop me a line. :) K. Lásztocska^talk 00:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your message! --SameerKhan (talk) 07:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Belated thank you

Thank you, Kuaichik, and please excuse the fact that it took me so long (your message was lost in my backlog). Dahn (talk) 20:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Panchali dab

Yeah, may be she is demanding the right. I have no opinion here. Pather Panchali can be a dab page, with links to both the novel and film articles.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

roma & crime

Well, he has phrased it in a "this is missing from the article" kind of way so I guess it should be left in. We could add another tag advising people that it's only for discussion of the article, in hopes that it will keep people on track. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 13:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh great, this one's still going on? I left a comment on the talk page... K. Lásztocska^talk 17:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Raga Todi

Hmm, that's true. An explanation would be good of what Raga Todi is. May be that book (or some other source) would provide something. Will have to look. Should be a one-liner explanation. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

In fact I tried to find out what Todi is when first mentioning that in the article. But could not find. Now during the search today, at least got some clue what it is. We can try like this: "a raga usually associated with junctures of day and night, early morning or evening". (with appropriate citation) How does it sound?--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Then let me share with you my raga-related knowledge. I only knew that Bhairavi is for dawn... that's it!!!--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

Thank you, and I appreciate the introduction. I just noticed some of your recent edits were on Satyajit Ray; I'm a big admirer of his films myself, at least the (relatively few) I've been able to see - there's criminally little of his work on DVD. Biruitorul ^Talk 05:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I should have added "by boutique labels like Criterion, Masters of Cinema and Artificial Eye" - yours are probably from other companies, right? On the other hand, as long as the prints are fairly watchable and the subtitles coherent, then why not? Biruitorul ^Talk 18:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, but at least the Indians bother to put out their films on DVD, which is more than you can say for Romanians. Good luck finding a film from the 1960s (not to mention the '30s), even something like The Forest of the Hanged, which won a prize at Cannes. Oh, well.. Biruitorul ^Talk 19:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Awesome - they have Ritwik Ghatak too! This may drain my finances, though. Biruitorul ^Talk 20:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes, I do like Google Videos for its more lax copyright policies: I remember in the early days of YouTube, there were all sorts of copyright movies being uploaded, but that came to an end fairly quickly :( And speaking of copyright (if that's your thing), may I ask for some moral support here? The idea is that of course sourcing is important, but if the subject died over 100 years ago, you know, we should just give it a rest - it's bound to be PD, for goodness' sake! Biruitorul ^Talk 21:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem and yes, I got the idea of what you were saying ("expert în domeniul drepturilor..." might be preferred, though). Pictures you take yourself are always (well, almost always - I imagine something taken illegally inside The Pentagon might get taken down) OK, as are pre-1923 pictures. But it's not an easy field to navigate. Biruitorul ^Talk 23:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you keep the discussion on a single page so that people can follow it more easily? :) AKoan (talk) 08:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I lead a nomadic existence. I didn't catch the mistake in your Russian, btw, been too long since I've spoken it and it's all getting replaced by Czech now anyway. My Hungarian, right now, utterly stinks. K. Lásztocska^talk 04:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

AT last

Yes, Pather Panchali (film) is in teh FAC, at last! I hope I will be able to follow the FAC adequately, given the short spare times I have these days.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

"Thiru" -> DMulla et al. -> DHind101?

Hello, Blnguyen. I noticed that you banned User:DMulla as a sockpuppet of "Thiru."

Now there is another User:DHind101 who appears to be making very similar edits (note also the similarity between usernames). Could he be another sockpuppet of "Thiru"?

Also, out of curiosity, who is "Thiru"? Thirumalai nayakar a.k.a. PONDHEEPANKAR? --Kuaichik (talk) 04:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Ouch. Actually I can't even remember his name properly so I abbreviated but I couldn't even remember that the first part of his name is "Thileep" and not "Thiru" :( But here are the details. Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/DWhiskaZ and [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Thileepanmathivanan]. He has more than 200, probably 400+ throwaway socks, and note that all the guys in my blocking log in teh past month that I tagged as "Mujahideen54" are also the same guy. I haven't bothered to tag the socks. PONDHEEPANKAR is a Tamil in India. Thileep is in Canada. Also note that Thileep usually calls his socks similar names and tends to create userpages for his socks with the same things like "=*=" and "==" and so forth. I guess he is doing the same style like psychopathic serial killers who always kill their victims in the same way and decorate the body in the same way to taunt police and so forth so it's not like he's trying to hide or anything. But as for myself, I'm not bothering to get wound up about his rubbish, I just revert and block. If you spot anything then just some right here. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:A not-so-personal question about Nasta'liq! :-D

Salaam! Yes, in Nasta'liq, lauki is written like this: لوکی. I do not work on Urdu Wikipedia albeit I just searched for the article and could not find it there. I hope this helps! With regards, Anupam^Talk 20:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Note

I posted a question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Romani people#Help needed. Please have a look. Thank you. Sebastian scha. (talk) 00:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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