User talk:Khoikhoi/Archive 8

Armenian Genocide

A massacre is defined as The act or an instance of killing a large number of human beings indiscriminately. And that is exactly what happened . --CltFn 04:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is POV because the intentions /motives are disputed. KSK 04:39, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks !

for reverting his propoganda/POV. The guy is also very eager to insert the word "islamist", when in fact the Young Turks overthrew the caliphate and were against everything islamism stood for. This is just another ploy to attract the sympathies of Western(christian) readers and disparage Islam further.KSK 04:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's back to his old tricks again. The Young Turks weren't islamist. They were Turkic/ Turkish nationalists and resented how the Ottoman caliphate denied the Turkishness of the populace in favor of religion based identification. He's just trying to create the "true-blue christian armenian" - "Bad-to-the-bone muslim Turk" scenario. Can you keep an eye on this guy and the article for me ? KSK 04:58, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Ive got my abacus set to three beads:p -KSK 05:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lol. This guy is really getting out of hand. Im not very sure about the procedure involved. Can you contact one of the admins for me? --KSK 05:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That sucks, but we dont really have too many other options. But at least now, I can get off the computer and take a pee:p --KSK 05:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Squidward

Hi, just a note to say it is Wikipedia policy not to use an copyrighted images in non article space, Thanks 14:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Here we go again...

User:CltFn just moved Ottoman Armenian casualties to Ottoman Armenian victims. Based on other encounters with this user, I don't think he is going to listen to me. Please help. --—Khoikhoi 04:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now he's editing the Armenian Genocide page. --—Khoikhoi 05:21, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I refuse to touch Armenian Genocide (article is practicaly owned) but I have moved Ottoman Armenian casualties page back to its proper title. Cat ^chi? 15:31, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. —Khoikhoi 18:24, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, the definition at the Turkish people article has changed a bit since last time I showed it to you. —Khoikhoi 19:39, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks much better. There is ofcourse room for progress... Cat ^chi? 21:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutan

Thanks for informing me. I'll add the article to my watchlist and talk to the user if he reverts. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How?

I don't know how to do that :s Chaldean 19:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutan

Why is Nichalp allowed to revert back to his version months after many tonnes of edits have been made and I am not allowed to revert back? Btw Nichalp's version contains glaring fatual errors such as independance date for Bhutan. Bhutan never was colonized, so how can it have an independence day? What exactly is his motivation? He can't accept the fact that his version isn't up there verbatim?

BTW I am from Bhutan so I would probably know more about Bhutan than him

Wik

I just revert, block, find all his socks, block them too, and block the open proxy he's using. If he persists in acting like Wik, then we need to make it very tiring for him. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's tiring for him to have to keep finding new anon proxies. Eventually he'll wise up. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping out. Please let me know if you see him editing again. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. There are no restrictions when dealing with banned editors. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:-) Jayjg ^(talk) 05:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

panosfidis

Greetings. Thanks for your welcoming. Actually I do need some help. I have started this stub about the Greek Author named Anestis Keramidas. I wanted the word "Keramidas" alone to lead to the same artikle (since ther is no other person named keramidas) but instead of this I made something wrong and now the word Keramidas leads to en empty page with another redirection to the right page (try it and you will see). Anyway could you show me how to fix it ( or if you know even fix it yourself?) Anyway happy Easter! (in Greece it is common to eat Lam on Sunday) panosfidis

My RFA

Many thanks for your vote on my recent RFA, which passed narrowly. I will try to be worthy of your support. Regards, Kaisershatner 21:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His Holiness the Mongour?

Since you reverted an anon's edit to a version that says that Tenzin Gyatso was born in a Mongour family, can you supply a cite for that claim? It seems quite plausible, but I don't see anything on the web which confirms it. Also, it contradicts the article on Yonten Gyatso, 4th Dalai Lama, which says that he was just about the only non-Tibetan Dalai Lama. - Nat Krause^(Talk!) 23:46, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Nathan hill seems like a pretty well-informed sort, so I won't remove this factoid, but I am going to tag it with a {{fact}}-izer. Incidentally, since you were involved in the anti-Wylie controversy, you might want to comment on the underway discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming conventions (Tibetan). - Nat Krause^(Talk!) 00:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moldovans

I thought you reverted the changes of a few logical corrections while trying to revert the removal of the box. Therefore, I returned to Moldo's version (I don't think the referencing system was changed from your change to his), but I added the box that existed a few hours back. If I did something incorrectly I appologize. TSO1D 23:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I will be more careful next time. I reverted myself. TSO1D 23:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

India

Hey dude what up? If you have time, can you fix the notes section on the India page. I kind of messed it up while doing my edits to shorten the page. If you have any edits in mind go for it as that page has now ballooned quite a bit. 'Afghan Historian' asked me to check it out and I did try to whittle it down. Much appreciated! Tombseye 00:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, nix that request, but if you can figure out ways to shorten the article that would be cool. Later. Tombseye 00:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's cool, I fixed the problem with the reference notes. Yeah, now some guy claims that Iranian peoples needs to include the Azeris or say that they are not included or whatever. Geezus. You can tell me seriously, is the article not clear that this isn't about the people of modern Iran? Anyway thanks, and I think you're right, the article could use some more breakdown into subsections. Feel free to help out even though it does sound like you're swamped! don't let this stuff get to ya. Just do what you can and ask for help whenever needed. By the way, someone doesn't like Egypt being referred to as 'Middle Eastern' and I figure that won't be a problem that will be solved any time soon either. Tombseye 00:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm okay with a vote just to avoid the edit wars. Iranian Turks seems like a pointless article and more of an attempt to emphasize nationalist hegemony rather than something constructive since the individual articles and the info. on Iranian culture and demographics explain everything. However, I'd rather not get into some conflict over that issue as well. As long as they leave Iranian peoples alone I'm cool. Thanks for helping out. We'll see how the vote goes and hopefully the worst that will happen is that the article will be renamed Iranic peoples. Tombseye 01:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3rr

Naconkantari took care of it. :) User:Zoe|^(talk) 03:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the future, please be more patient. It is not a good idea to ask five different admins within a span of 10 minutes to block an individual, when you already posted on WP:ANI/3RR. That is the purpose of the 3RR messageboard. Keep in mind, when User:William M. Connolley isn't around, the 3RR message board usually goes fairly slow. He seems to be the most active admin around on 3RR violations. If you want something done quickly, try #wikipedia or #wikipedia-en on IRC. There are usually admins floating around there. Pepsidrinka 04:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I don't want to give the impression that I don't want to be bothered. On the contrary, I am more than happy to help. However, I can imagine certain admins being ticked off for stuff like this. Pepsidrinka 04:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

double redirection

I fixed it. Thanks for your advise panosfidis

Fennomanic POV in Finland-Swedes

Referring to our earlier discussion: Today, the anon's coverup was the edit summary itself: (I'm glad to finally see an accurate map, instead of propaganda). I agree about the map, though. The new one is better, the previous was just a quick fix I did to avoid a copyvio - not "propaganda", however! --Janke | Talk 14:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just an aside, have you read WP:SPA? I think the anon. can be considered one if you check the contribs... --Janke | Talk 05:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

66.159.193.205's contributions

You gave this user a warning for vandalism here. He was adding a link to an Abenaki-English dictionary to Abenaki language. What is wrong with that? Tim Q. Wells 15:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A request

Hey, sup buddy. I dont know whether I should ask this of you, but can you create a composite image for Turkish people from the 4 images we have at present, plus [1] and [2] ? I dont really have a good image editor, so I'd really appreciate it if you could do it for me. :) --Kilhan 19:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh man, i was of the impression that the photographer had given permission for the usage of [3] in Turkish people. You're right about the legal stuff. Ill send an e-mail to the contact address on her website and see what they think of the idea -Kilhan 02:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there's just a heading at the moment. I think it should be alright if we lift Culture of Turkey, dump it over here and then condense it. - Kilhan 02:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assyrian people

Please have a look at Talk:Assyrian_people#Redirect/rename_mess. --Pjacobi 19:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

--Nino Gonzales 03:10, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy theories abound

See Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Aucaman/Proposed decision and Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Aucaman/Evidence#Evidence_presented_by_LukasPietsch. This misguided attempt at conspiracy theory would be quite hilarious, if it weren't so sad. Guess what, Khoikhoi? I'm a shadowy background player in this grand, devious scheme. Watch out, the Iranians are coming - boo! SouthernComfort 04:22, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea?

Hi. Do you have any idea what’s going on with the requests for checkuser? I filed my request 10 days ago and still nothing happens. Also thanks for correcting a mistake in Iranian Azerbaijan, it was introduced by an anon, and I overlooked it. Grandmaster 04:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I started an RfC with regard to the naming dispute here [4] I hope I did everything right. Please be sure to check it out. Grandmaster 07:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bukovina history

Hi, I saw you made some corrections to the Bukovina page. I am trying to clean up the recent history part (WWII and after) -- it is a mess, frankly ..... However, I would like to be considerate and not truffle to many feathers -- no need for these stupid revert wars. I am rather new, also -- any advice? Eugen Ivan 00:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC) Well, I guess if you can't guess my nationality, then my bias may not be that apparent, right? BTW, I made some changes to the history part -- WWII and after -- see what you theink if/when you have a minute. i ma not quite done, but i think It looks a bit better, at least from a style angle. Eugen Ivan 03:51, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Warning?

I recently received a warning about editing a page; I'm a bit confused though. I did edit the page on Iran. I deleted the line saying "Bomb Iran, bomb iran, bomb iran...". I thought I was actually helping the Wikipedia.

ethnic minorities in Iran

Hi. About Iranian ethnic minorities I was aware of the discussion in the Iran page but I did not know about this page which mentions persian jews as an ethnic minority. I was going to change it but I realized the last edit was yours and you added the Kurdish and Persian Jews. I thought it was decided that Persian Jews are not a different ethnic group. Am I wrong?

thank you. Gol 05:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bagrationi 3RR and personal attacks

Hi Khoikhoi, some guy named Eupator is making 3RR on Bagrationi page and personal attacks. Who should i contact? Thanks in advance, Noxchi Borz 19:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

p.s he calls me a "troll" I don’t think that is appropriate. Can you call a person troll? Why is he permitted to make personal attacks? http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:Bagratid_Dynasties

Trivandrum

Well, I've made a comment, but it seems his sock army is still trucking along. If you feel like it, you could post this matter at Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser or WP:RPP. I can't really do much else. Saravask 03:23, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Iranian Azerbaijan

Hi there! I think my comment/reply on that talk page is sufficient. As well, this should be allayed (somewhat) by moving the article (as discussed on the Azarbaijan talk page) to Azarbaijan (Iran): I tried to do this earlier, but it seems the article has been restricted from being moved the usual way. Thoughts?

If he persists, perhaps a note on the admin noticeboard is in order? Anyhow, there you go! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 03:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I can see a few potential problems with the current title. First, no source has been provided for the official nature of Iranian Azerbaijan (which I see you've since nixed). Relatedly, this would bring it inline with the two provinces of Iran so named: West Azarbaijan and East Azarbaijan (note the spelling). And, stemming from that, it is arguably more impartial than the current article title since it's irrespective of direction/cultural propriety (which has also been discussed on the talk page). And since no-one has commented over there, there seems to be no apparent objection to the proposed move. Make sense? E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 03:57, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Largely, yes (as per the provinces): the 'a' variant is also supported in various texts (at least in my posession) for the provinces. And note that, I'll be proposing a move to Azarbaijan (Iran), not Iranian Azarbaijan. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 04:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS In my prior edit/rv, for reasons I know not I inadvertently restored "legally"; please nix, if necessary. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 04:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

personal ataacks

Please also warn "Ozgurgerilla" about this statement: "The Turkish media always mentions how the members of PKK cannot carry PKK/Kurdish flags but here are my people carrying it against your fascist country"--Hattusili 12:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Khoikhoi, please have a look at WP:AM#Noticeboard where Georgians are mentioned as chauvinists and fascists. I asked the author of this phrase, User:Eupator to change it, but he hasn't done it so far. Thanks, Kober 16:06, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Khoikhoi. Unfortunately I beg to differ, the comment is not aimed at a specific individual(s); therefore, it doesn't qualify as a personal attack. If you think otherwise, please let me know of the reasoning behind.--Eupator 16:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CfD of interest

You should check out the debate over whether to delete the various categories of "Foreigners in Turkey"

[5]

While I will assume good faith, I cannot seem to wonder that of all the "foreigners" that have connections to Turkey, Greeks alone are excluded, but that's live in the POV world. I voted to delete them, but would like to generate consensus. Carlossuarez46 18:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3RR request

Sorry, just noticed your request. Have you reported them at WP:AN/3RR? Jayjg ^(talk) 19:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Query

Hey, I've seen much of the GREAT work that you have done on Iranian pages and I very much respect it. But today I got a message from someone saying that you are using terms such as "South Azerbaijan" on the Iranian Azerbaijan page and they said its wrong and propaganda. I just wanted to get your take on it. --(Aytakin) | Talk 20:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same stuff, dude. -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 22:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

links not working

Hi, thank you for the suggestions you made about internal/external links. I have a question related to this: I have started several articles, and a strange thing happens: sometimes when I search for them they come up, sometimes they don't ... If you have a minute, could you check out e. g. Hurmuzachi brothers, Eudoxiu Hurmuzachi and Cernauca. The link to Cernauca on the Chernivtsi page appears red, although it is spelled correctly, and I know the article is there, I even edited it today! Thank you, 01:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC) thank you for your help -- the Cernauca link was on the Bukovina page (sorry, my mistake), but I fixed it myself and it works now. I guess the new question is: why does nothing appear when I search for "hurmuzachi"? Eugen Ivan 23:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the help. Eugen Ivan 23:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

messing with anonymous users

if you want to refer to people's contributions as nonsense, do so on the discussion in the relevant articles. you may be unaware that ISPs reassign ip addresses all the time. it is highly unlikely that when you attack someone based on their ip, your nonsense will reach the intended recipient.

Turkish Kurdistan

The vote was peppered with votestacking and cannot be seen as concensus. Cat ^chi? 20:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah well, ok. There was votestacking from from the other side, however. (mostly the work of TuzsuzDeliBekir) —Khoikhoi 22:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said... there is vote stacking... I am not trying to find blame. Hence the vote has no value. Syrian Kurdistan however is based on concensus. Cat ^chi? 22:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks for the help at Pashtuns

The article was devolving into chaos. What do you think about a separate article to list the tribes? I mean that section is probably the worst and the people who add tribes just add them arbitrarily anyway and I figure might as well keep this article looking better. Tombseye 23:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crap! You're right. gotta be careful and the guy does have a point in that it is a good idea to give references to make the article stronger. Any other problems of note? Tombseye 23:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

--ManiF 02:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kurds

Actually, I am not very familiar with the Kurds. I decided to take a break from editing today and learn a little and I chose this article to read. I found so many grammatical errors and style inconsistencies I just couldn't resist doing some editing.

It's funny you should mention NPOV because I notice there seem to be a lot of forced references to "Kurdistan" as a Nationalistic Homeland rather than the Kurdistan Autonomous Regions in Iran, Iraq, etc. I noticed you have done a lot of work on articles concerning Iran. Do you think this is a neutrality problem?

Also I noticed you are a member of the Counter-Vandalism Unit. I am interested in that as well. I spend considerable time reverting vandalism on the 200 or so articles on my watchlist. Are there other ways to monitor vandalism (on pages not on one's watchlist)? How can I become a member of the CVU and what would be the "duties" involved? Thanks in advance for the info.--WilliamThweatt 03:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did yo receive my e-mails? --ManiF 05:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

Sorry, image deletions are permanent. --Neutrality^talk 04:45, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes that helps

Hi khoikhoi, disputes are often easily solved if people talk about them directly to eachother instead of ignoring them. Darkred 05:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA for HolyRomanEmperor

Hi Khoikhoi, HRE has been nominated for adminship. I have seen him working around on many Balkan/Former Yugoslavia articles and I am very happy with his calmness when editing and discussing controversial topics, even on the face of personal attacks from many users. I think Wikipedia would benefit from a level-headed Admin who will dedicate himself to that part of the Wiki project. Thanks, --Asterion 12:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is quite sad to see Dardanv and Hipi being themselves once again. Thanks a lot. Hope you are doing well. --Asterion ^{talk to me}

22:56, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, it seems that one makes a lot of enemies when dealing with "this is my page, I created it. You are a foreigner and not welcome here" sort of people :( In any case, I consider you an admin in all but name --Asterion ^{talk to me}

23:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha ha. I guess so :) --Asterion ^{talk to me}

23:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anons

There are some anonymous user edits to Kurdish articles [6] and [7] injecting similar material in to Kurd-related article. The info seems to be sourced but I don't think its true. If the history of Kurds is so obvious then there wouldn't be such disputes over their origins! I think its contradictory to the articles also..I dont know, have a look and let me know. PS. Are the users sockpuppets? -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 14:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Romanians

Already seems to be protected... - FrancisTyers 23:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Before you go... can you start off the discussion on the talk page please. I was debating whether to protect or not, and it seems that this is a dispute between two equally balanced sides. If you could get the discussion started it would show good faith ;) - FrancisTyers 23:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, Khoikhoi, and I tend to agree re the sockpuppetry, let's see if anything results. It is plausible at least that more than a few of the recent contributors there may be reincarnations of the perma-banned User:Bonaparte. These shenanigans have been going on for more than six months now, and despite acres of talk page debate seems to be no closer to settling down. Romanian diaspora is a bit of a POV fork as things stand, and needs to be reigned in a little. Will see if there's anything I can do. Cheers, --cjllw | TALK 00:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, I see others are on his trail. I do not think that NorbertArthur is involved in sockpuppetry (and have mentioned this at the checkusr request), based on my dealings with him I think he's a genuine-enough editor (although one concerned with the same subject matter). Regards,--cjllw | TALK 00:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked if they'd like me to mediate the dispute, you are welcome to accept or not. - FrancisTyers 10:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adana source

Selam Khoikhoi arkadaş. Ne var, ne yok? Adana için gösterilen kaynağa baktım. I don't know who made this edit in the article and I don't bother myself to look at but this person surely does not even know the distinction between a şehir (a büyükşehir in case of Adana) and an il. Kolay gelsin...Behemoth 07:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thiruvananthapuram, Kochi and Kerala

Thank you for your note, User:Khoikhoi. I really appreciate your efforts in keeping those guys from vandalising the page. I did a search using their user names, and it seems all of them have been let loose by a fight over this "biggest city" topic at http://skyscrapercity.com (Ya, I know thats so silly). And those guys are really going over the edge. I've received threat mails from them even. Ridiculous! -- thunderboltz ^(TALK) 06:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, are you a Malayali

?

Lol, okay. About protecting the page, I don't think that would work on those guys. Only new users will be prevented from editing, right? They have been on wikipedia for 4 or 5 days now, I think (so do they qualify as new users?) . But might as well bring this to the attention of an admin. Thanks again for the trouble.

-- thunderboltz ^(TALK) 07:14, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool Deepu ..thinking of reporting us to admin?. We are gonna do that befor you guys do that. And User:Khoikhoi,(I assume you are not a malayali , correct me if you are wrong) , I assume we know much more about Kerala than a person in California.Please try to get your facts right.and plese dont blindly support any person--Altruist 08:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The link you gave is just Kochi U/A . Kochi corporation has a population of just 6-7 lakhs and Trivandrum Corporation its 8.5-9 lakhs --Altruist 08:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

~~We were expecting this, werent we? thunderboltz ^(TALK) 11:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

Good that you put Kochi in Trivandrum page. But where is Trivandrum in Kochi map? Great!! --Altruist 07:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was deepu who put the map .Ask him to put a map with Trivandrum shown clearly . --Altruist 07:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh! Just look at the the bullshit those guys have written everywhere about me. Really, havent they got any sense? Look at their silly fight on Talk:India. -- thunderboltz ^(TALK) 14:25, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transnistria stub

Maybe of interest to you ... there is a discussion on Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion (scroll down to April 20, Transnistria) about the Transnistria-stub. You may want to chip in with your own view of the situation because the "Stub Gods" don't really know about the Moldova/Transnistria situation in detail. - Mauco 12:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation#User:Khoikhoi

--Andrei George 14:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bonaparte sockpuppets

I've tagged them and blocked them. Jayjg ^(talk) 23:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check him for what? Jayjg ^(talk) 00:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any solid reason to suspect that? Nothing obvious showed up in my previous checks, and we try not to do fishing expeditions. Jayjg ^(talk) 15:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks

They are what I consider nonsense, Thank You. -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 00:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. It is nonsense. The user has been giving me trouble. I suggest you see his contribs instead -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 00:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah true, I wasn't easy on him but not giving him vandal temps? He seems to be quite knowledgable on the wikipedia policies himself, it looks like he was giving me advise for a minute! and ok I am off for tonight anyway.. -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 00:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are absolutely correct, I do assume the worst sometimes and its not good. Bedroud -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 00:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing my English

Hi, although I don't know if it's your role, or if there's someone who focus more on fixing grammatical errors, I'd like you to have at look at my contributions and fix all my (many) mistakes, or tell someone else to do so ;). Articles are:

Thanks in advance for your help, greetings from Friuli--Klenje 10:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks--Klenje 12:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to who??

Thanks for that revert of my talkpage.. something to do with the vote on Moldovans no doubt! -- max rspct leave a message 11:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adana surface area

I am giving up. Moved the discussion to article's talk page [8]. He still argues that a city and a province is the one same thing. He continues to come with further false information on other topics such as Metropolitan Municipalities legislation. Unfortunately, I guess he lacks bona fide or something more profound, which I don't know. Ciao! Behemoth 18:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chechnya tag

Dear Khoi, what do you think about this: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:User_independent_Chechnya vote keep or delete if you can. Thanks Noxchi Borz 20:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chaldean's paragraph

Hey no problem. I will try my best to track and see whats going on. By the way, is there a section where you can propuse an idea for the whole wikipedia? Like I want to propuse that in ethnic pages, if there are census numbers available, then they should be used instead of estimates. Enjoy your Cali weather! Chaldean 22:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Öcalan etc.

I'm quite convinced that all the articles on the Kurds are POV from one side or another. The one on Ocalan seems to have been written from a Turkish POV. The PKK is a pretty terrible article. I've been trying to whittle it down over time... İLevent frequently tries to get stuff in on the PKK article. I have removed that particular addition and will add the article to my Watchlist (yay!). PS. Did you see the excitement on Talk:Romanians ? - FrancisTyers 00:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hah, those were funny :)) But also the mediation, NA is not a sock of Bonaparte, so do you think it is worthwhile continuing with the mediation? - FrancisTyers 01:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!:)check your mail pls --Hectorian 01:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wik?

Khoikhoi, what do you think of this one? It vandalised my userpage after I reverted User:Another Helper's vandalism. --Asterion ^{talk to me} 00:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I will ask them if it comes back. Good night, --Asterion ^{talk to me}

01:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just another RFA thank you note

Dear Khoikhoi, I really appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 03:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shams Tabraiz

Hi Khoikhoi. You reverted the move of Shams Tabraiz to Shams Tabrizi, but that was a correct move. Apparently there was a typing mistake in the name of the article. Please see the talk page, the reason of confusion is probably that there are two persons, Shams Tabraiz and Shams Tabrizi, but that particular article was about Tabrizi, the name meaning that he was hailing from Tabriz in Iranian Azerbaijan. Maybe you can clarify that with other knowledgeable people, since there’s no response on the talk page of the article. Take care. Grandmaster 11:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:TuzsuzDeliBekir

Looks like a clear violation, but I suggest posting on the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents so that another admin can take a look at this. --Aude (talk | contribs) 15:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FMI....

Hello Khoihoi. İ am aware that the mentioned articles deserve lots of work. I am however sorry to disapoint you, that I feel being involved in sufficiently heated and sensitive debates for the time being. But please feel free to draw my atention again, if I can be of any help. Bertilvidet 19:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I can see that there are some problematic edits. When it is not outright vandalism I am however very reluctant to revert without particpating in the debate - which easily turns tiring. Bertilvidet 19:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

All your edits are just reverts. I see what a good user can you be...--Hassion 19:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Learn to use the talk

Sorry but, have "you" used the talk page before reverting? Why do I need to use the talk to make a revert while you can revert without using the talk page and just by leaving a scolding comment?[9] What gives you such a right? At least I gave a reson of my revert. You have to learn to use the talk page as well. --levent 19:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Öcalan

In case you've not recognized by now, I've replaced the bbc source with the globalsecurity one[10]. I've seen the talk you mentioned before I made the change and I agree that BBC surce giving only one incident is not enough so I changed it with the globalsecurity one. --levent 20:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. --levent 00:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for interfearing, but the source provided clearly says:'According to the Government, from 1984 through November 1997, 26,532 PKK members, 5,185 security force members, and 5,209 civilians lost their lives in the fighting.'. we can't accept what the turkish government says as 'neutral'...If we do, we must also say that the kurds are just 'mountain turks'...lol --Hectorian 00:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK,i reverted. Not that i believe that PKK has never killed civilians, but, it is not their common practise. it is not Al-Qaeda, no matter what the Turks say... I think that in order to be absolutely neutral, we should say something like: PKK killed civilians in Turkish Kurdistan, Kusandasi and Constantinople, and so did the turkish troops while destroying 3,000 kurdish villages...Of course, no Kurd or Turk will accept such an edit! --Hectorian 00:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

U are right:).It would be better to leave it out. In any case, i think that there are more important info to be added in this article. the rest may be included in Kurds,PKK,Turkey,Turkish Kurdistan and so on... --Hectorian 00:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, i just did. I was about to ask u how could i do this, but u were quicker than me:). it was not that difficult afterall...--Hectorian 01:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ASALA

You're welcome, it wasn't any in particular but your overall vigilance from the Kars article to ASALA. However, your revisions on the ASALA page and revisions and the Turks' use of the "so-called Genocide" phrase and adherence to the truth stood out the most. Thank you once again.--MarshallBagramyan 23:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Assyrian villages

Hi, we meet again. I was wondering whether you as one of the authors of this list could put pointers to the Turkish/Farsi/Arabic names of these places; when I do edits on the various places I can add the Syriac name to the articles for each of these places as I have done with Hasankeyf, which is in Batman Province, not Mardin Province as the list states. I know the Syriac name of Hasankeyf, but which many of these others correspond to is beyond my knowledge. Carlossuarez46 23:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kochi vs. Trivandrum

You might be interested in this. Utterly ridiculous, if you ask me. AreJay 01:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hmm.... I got your message and my apologies. But can you please strike out the preachy tone of user thunderboltz, that I was trying to point out to? He is creating trouble instead of consensus. Hope this is the right spot for communicating with you :) Harig 02:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your replies. So as per your book, looks like he gets leniency when he uses terms like soap box, sock puppet army etc. If he is frustrated, then he should have also been less caustic - I am not saying the people who went about correcting him were civil. But my main viewpoint that he be civil too, still stands. And more to the point, he was subtly promoting a sectarian agenda. And what is with the hostility against Skyscrapercity forum? I visit that forum occassionally, but he alleges that there is a conspiracy going on there. Well, I am yet to see any discussion on this topic. And doesnt that constitute imputing motives on people? So is there a heirarchy system here wherein some people are "considered more truthful than others" ? Harig 02:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I got it! "If it had been there for years then it must be the truth". And oh, nice boomerang on the conspiracy part. Thought you were serious about the conversation. Bye Harig 03:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"that you're the one with the conspiracy theory man!" ? what is with that? Where did I say there was a conspiracy? Or was it a freudian slip of the tongue on your part? Hey just kidding. btw, it was good chatting with you. I have a bunch of info on ancient kerala, hope to punch it in soon. So on my part, moving on. But as I mentioned, the likes of the chap I was discussing will be challenged :) Harig 03:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, of course I wont get mad at you, what did you think? I may appear prickly, but I will not lose my senses and call you say a "sock puppet" etc. I always try to be civil (never uses four letter words, even in real life) and that is why I was probing you when you were saying I was too uncivil, whereas all I did was use turn back that fella's arguments on him. But you haven't answered the conspiracy theory allegation :P Anyway, on with life. ciao!! Harig 03:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think a mere thanks would underestimate my gratitude. thunderboltz ^(TALK) 06:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haha...you are right.

-- thunderboltz ^(TALK) 06:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shams-i Tabrizi

I think Tabrizi is more correct. I dont know where that "Tabraiz" came from, since the name of the city is officially spelled "Tabriz".--Zereshk 05:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo.--Zereshk 06:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of unrecognised countries

I'm afraid I'm not seeing the POV-pushing, although it's entirely possible that I might be missing something. "The only country that recognizes the TRNC is Turkey, although since the late 1990's, the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic, an exclave of Azerbaijan, came to recognize it as well." is a terribly badly written sentence, and as far as I can see, the anon's text just rewords this to say the same thing - that the two entities recognise the TRNC. Ambi 08:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see the point - it's fair enough. I'll see if I can better convey its subnational status. Ambi 09:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's something that going to piss you off...

I always suspected that User:Retau was a sockpuppet of Diyako/Xebat, but now I'm almost certain. Check his latest contributions - he just created Category:Kurdish cities and added it to articles like Kahramanmaraş Province and Kirkuk. Besides, Xebat is currently blocked for 2 months (and will probably be banned for one year), so it makes sense why he would try to evade it. Just wanted to let you know. —Khoikhoi 04:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shukran for that. I have placed him under survelance.

I also have placed two of the stub categories he created for speedy deletion as we already voted that they were inaprorate.

I also requested a sockpuppet check on him.

Enjoy the fireworks... :)

Cat ^chi? 10:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know

[11]

From the same guy who I assumed "bad" faith about the other day, I think I can trust my judgements anyway. It doesn't take a genius what some people come to Wikipedia for. In any case there are I think a few sockpups operating recently. -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 10:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bonaparte again

Yes, you were right. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Jayjg ^(talk) 13:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Steaua is confirmed. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I checked them all at the time. Steaua was the only obvious sockpuppet. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:00, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Want to delete

I want to delete that but have no idea how I shall do? --OtrO DiA OtrO DiA 01:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!i have the article in my watchlist now(i did not expect that it would be targetted!). BTW, it may interest u too: [12]->see the first word changed...I remember one more editor who saw everyone as Turkish:p --Hectorian 01:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I already do...!Jesus!Britanica is not credible?!then who is?the website named 'GreekBarbarism'?i miss her too...i need some history lectures;) --Hectorian 01:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please accept my sincere apologies.u are right once more. but i will disagree in the involvement of Inanna in that...she would write ever worst things;) --Hectorian 02:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did u see the request for deletion about the Armenian Genocide? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armenian Genocide(2nd nomination). what is going on? an attack on history? --Hectorian 02:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How sad...and the most irritating of all is that those who deny the Armenian Genocide, claim that they rescued the Jews from their genocide. it seems so schizophrenic (etymology=break the nerves, in greek;)...) that they have all the sources in front of them and still insist on their government's position! --Hectorian 03:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I need some help in Ottoman Empire... --Hectorian 03:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

U are right(again):). --Hectorian 03:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moshe and Pecher at Persian Jews

You might wish to look into the state of that article and the discussion. I've done what I can, and I can only hope Moshe and Pecher will start adhering to NPOV and stop deleting sources, which is exactly what they've been doing. I'm on a business trip and using the hotel computer center, and I've finished my work, and I'm tired of the computer screen. ;) So I'm headed out. Take care, SouthernComfort 05:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, does WP ever log you out automatically even when you've only been on for a couple of minutes? This stupid thing keeps doing it to me. SouthernComfort 05:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian Genocide memorial

Hi, I hope you don’t mind me reverting to the older picture of the memorial at Armenian Genocide. It's just that with your picture, you can't actually see the memorial. Telex 08:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oki, good to know

Oki, Thanks for that now I know to the future OtrO DiA OtrO DiA 09:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom

I posted a statement at [13], I am not sure if its good or not, or even at the right place.. what do you think? -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 11:52, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saravask RFA

Hi Khoikhoi - I've had to remove all votes on Saravask's RFA as per WP:RFA/N, becoz the process has not yet started - he is yet to accept the nom and answer the questions. Please visit the page again soon. Rama's Arrow 14:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In reality there's only two reverts, one of them is by mistake reverting the correct version. Miskin 16:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alhazen

You are wrong Khoikhoi!! All of mesopatamia was called Iraq by the Arabs, even prior to islamic conquest. And during the rule of the arab caliphies, it was adminstrated as the province of Iraq. jidan 16:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I won't be back editing on wiki, till May 11. I like what you did with my user page, can you please change it back to what you had? Once again thanks!--Moosh88 00:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Khoikhoi, can you check out my talk page and read what Armenicum wrote. He asked for help and I don't really know how to help him with his problem, maybe you can. Thank you!--Moosh88 01:18, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you need help with, let me know! I didn't see any pov tag, maybe I missed something though.--Moosh88 01:32, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Saravask

Hi - yeah it was one of 3 procedural screw-ups. Our distinguished friend from Arizona went to bed as I typed up the nomin...hehehehe. I suppose I can take exception to your "exaggeration" if I were an egotistical man, but I'm not. He's my superior in many skills, and I honestly believe that for Wikipedia's long-term success, Saravask must be in the ranks of administrators. Cheers, Rama's Arrow 02:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geber

Hi!

In all articles where his ethnicity is not important such as Hydrochloric acid, at first I removed the mention of his ethnicity, but ManiF insisted in him being Iranian [14]. If its going to stay at muslim/islamic, then I have no problem. But have fun trying to convince ManiF ;-) jidan 03:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And please before you prejudge me of doing something wrong, have a quick look at this [[15]]. jidan 03:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A slight modification: "Although most sources state he was Arab, there are some that describe him as Persian". I think this is fair. What do u think? jidan 03:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW: Islamic is better than Muslim. Because Islamic is a chronoligical term, while Muslim is relgious. This way, also non-muslim scientists can be labeled as Islamic scientists. jidan 03:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought we had a deal khoikhoi! Anyways, most sources say that he was arab. jidan 11:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

=="Legislative" and "Unitary" in the description of PNG's constitutional arrangments== Hi. Thanks for bringing the query on the constitutional arrangements in PNG to my attention. I responded as follows on the PNG talk page and made the editorial change that this person proposed.

"I am the originator of the text you query and in this context "legislative" is another term for "unitary"; both are used in constitutional jurisprudence and I am by no means unaware of the use of the term "legislature" as opposed to executive and judiciary that you mention. However, this may be somewhat arcane in a general interest article and the fact that you were confused by this use of the term raises the possibility that others will also be. I have no objection to the (in this context) synonymous term "unitary" being substituted; if it is less likely to be misconstrued then it is an improvement. Thanks for your query; I honestly hadn't given thought to the fact that the dual meanings of the term could give rise to confusion."

Terminology in US and British Commonwealth jurisprudence sometimes differs slightly and no doubt this is the cause of this person's confusion; as I mentioned in my response, the original statement isn't actually "odd," but his confusion is honest and would no doubt be shared by others. So I have removed the ambiguity, which hadn't previously occurred to me, coming out of a British Commonwealth legal background myself. Masalai 06:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hi Jmabel,

The Persian Jews article was unprotected today, but a full-scale edit war has resumed again. Can you please protect it again before the situation escalates? Thanks. —Khoikhoi 06:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't ever looked at the article, I'm about to quite for the night, and I may not be available much the next several days, so I'm probably not the best one to do this. I suggest that if there is an issue (I couldn't quickly understand the situation from looking at the edit history) you either approach the same admin who protected it before (who is presumably familiar with the situation) or just bring it up at WP:AN. In the latter case, it would be useful if you give a relatively neutral explanation of what is being fought over, and why it calls for protection. - Jmabel | Talk 06:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey good fix-up of Pashtun page

This article's getting some much needed improvement. Feel free to do the same to the Iranian peoples page as well. By the way I could not help but notice the problem regarding the Persian Jews article. One thing about the article, shouldn't it have an ethnic info box rather than a religious portal (or at least in addition to a religious portal or is it just me? I'd bet that the Persians Jews are more related to other Persians than to Jews from other parts of the world given genetic tests on Jews in general. Tombseye 07:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, yeah I guess it was time I did that, archive I mean. Yeah, some time this weekend I'm gonna fix the population stats on the Turkish people page. Long overdue and without you know who around it should be easier. Yeah I was looking at Persian Jews discussion page. I've looked at the article in the past and it seems really long. Like there is a section on the Parthians that talks about the Parthians, which is not necessary as the link should explain a lot more! Really needs to be shortened in some parts so that the links can elaborate. I gotta say though, that I kind of think of Persian Jews as Persians who happen to be Jewish myself. This would probably put me at odds with everyone involved as I don't think Jews are a 'race', so I probably mostly agree with Southern Comfort's comments. I lived in LA for a number of years and dated a Persian Jewish chick and she really seemed like all the other Persians to me (looks, behavior, and she preferred Persian to Hebrew) as did the others I met through her. I do think they deserve their own page as a sub-type of Persians similar to the Falashas of Ethiopia whom I think of as Ethiopians who happen to be Jewish. Probably in the info box we could put in related peoples Persian peoples or something to that effect. Lots of modern politics and nationalism is injected into these discussions thoug. Also, I see they talked about Bernard Lewis. Thing about Bernie is that, although he has some good insights on occassion (Race and Slavery in the Middle East was pretty good), a lot of his work seems subjective and often written not as a neutral historian but a prosecutor. His work is best used when referring to sources he refers to (I know that sounds nuts, but he does use some good primary sources which end up twisted around once he's interpreted them). Lots of controversial stuff. I think a lot of the anti-Semiticism in Iran is aimed at Israel due to the occupation of Palestinian territories rather than hatred of Persian Jews, since in LA at least, they all seem to get along pretty well. I'll see what I can put into that argument later myself. Tombseye 09:00, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and black thorn of brethil makes some really good points that I agree with. Let me know what your take is thus far when you get the chance. Ciao. Tombseye 09:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Jews

Hey. I'm not able to decide which version to protect as I don't have the time to go through the edit war history. Is there a version that some admin has chosen earlier for protection? If so, I can rely on that admin's judgment. Else, I can only protect the current version of which I have no idea. I'm sorry about such a response. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 08:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will thx, have you seen iran article yet, i put lots of pics in it.--Darkred 09:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

çukurova

Hi, I wonder what makes diff. between now known as Çukurova and Today it is known in Turkish as Çukurova.. Additionally, I will split these two articles, Çukurova and Cilicia I mean, as seperate articles, like İstanbul and Costan. --TuzsuzDeliBekir 10:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

South African Farmer Murders

Hi!

I saw your comments on the Citric acid page, and checked out your user page. You might like to add the South African Farmer Murders page to your watchlist, as it is frequently a target for racists. --Slashme 12:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(Fixing refs) Thanks! I was still going to get around to that, but who knows when? --Slashme 19:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

rfa

Thanks for the support on my RFA. Unfortunately, it did not achieve consensus. I look forward to your support in a couple months when I apply again. Holler at me if you need anything. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 19:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scots dialect

I forgot to log in and I changed the article Frisian language to say that Frisian is the most similar living language to English but you reverted me. Here is an entry from dictionary.com whose source is the American Heritage Dictionary.

Fri·sian (frzhn, frzhn) also Frie·sian (frzhn)

n.

A native or inhabitant of the Frisian Islands or Friesland. The West Germanic language of the Frisians. It is the language most closely related to English.

[From Latin Frsi, the Frisians, of Germanic origin.]

Frisian adj.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

It says what I meant. Here is another entry of the same source.

Scots (skts)

adj.

Scottish. See Usage Note at Scottish.

n.

The dialect of English used in the Lowlands of Scotland.

[Middle English scottis, variant of scottisc, Scottish, from Scotte, sing. of Scottes, Scotsmen. See Scot.]

It does say Scots is a dialect of English. This dictionary even has entries for Scots words. Here are some examples. for lang (fourth entry) for hoot (first) for auld (first) for syne (first) for loch (second) for lallans (first)

I have seen that Wikipedia has a Scots edition to make it easier for readers of the Scots dialect but that also does not make it a different language. The article Scots language should have a different name. Tim Q. Wells 20:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish people map

LOL... it was u who added it?:p. anyway, it is clearly false (maybe if it was named 'former distribution of Turkish people in the balkans and anatolia' if would be true, since i know from first hand that there were many turks, at least in Thessaly, till 1923). Be more careful my friend:) --Hectorian 02:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ocalan

Hey, you'd have to give me a few days to research a little bit more about him but I am happy to tackle on other issues not related to Armenia.--MarshallBagramyan 02:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wilno Uprising

Please check the Wilno Uprising and it's talk if this is of interest to you. If not, just ignore the message. --Irpen 04:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox

Hi, what do i have to do to make a userbox appear in wikipedias userbox list?--Darkred 06:51, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Azar/Azer

I just noticed the incredibly stupid and inane argument regarding the title Azarbaijan. All this crap just because of one goddamn letter. I'm nauseated. SouthernComfort 09:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help to Armenicum

The pages I created receontly are Serge Sarkissian, Samvel Babayan, Mineclearance agencies. I search for them in Wikisearch and can't find. The pages exist because when I click go into goes stright to the page. But neither Wikisearch nor Google can find the pages by the page name. may be I need to add a tag or a code to the page or somtheing?

Template

Hey have you seen [16]? What do you think? if independance templates are going to be deleted like that then there should be a rule to generalise across? -- - K a s h ^{Talk | email} 13:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Kurdistan

Merhaba birader! It was me who removed those lines. Because the whole section was about the historical usage of the name and it seemed odd to me to have that part. In fact, there is a link to Kurds in Turkey in the See also section Behemoth 18:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus, Mary, Joseph! What can I say? He is trying to take revenge for the Kurdish cities and Kurdish provinces categories. Kurdish criminals are Kurdish terrorits and only Kurdish terrorist is Öcalan. A delicate categorisation! :-) Behemoth 18:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which page? And what? Behemoth 18:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, just revert them. For the categories, open a vote for deletion. ;-) But I tell you, that guy doesn't have bona fide. Anyway, I am considering to pass to German or French wikis. Behemoth 19:00, 30 Apri 2006 (UTC)

Just a thought. Anglophones are vicious. The only English-speaking person I respect is Divine. :lol: And there is an explosion in the number of Turkish users when I am trying to run away from them. It started to feel like "home" :-( Behemoth 19:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Khoikhoi, see the edit @ Kurdistan article of Turkish Wiki.[17]. Behemoth 20:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Özür dilerim. Ben senin Türkçe bildiğini zannediyordum. It's about the life of the "Kurdish animal", shitting in his house, fucking her mother, etc. It is typical racist Turkish discourse, fortunately not manifestly used by some users here. Yes, Turkish Wikipedia is pathetic. Behemoth 20:28, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Armenian Genocide! The title is "Allegations of Armenian Genocide". The main article is "Armenian Deportation" [18] and it compares the tehcir to involuntary settlement of Jap-Americans during WWII. There is also the article "Life stages of Worker's Party of Kurdistan" [http://tr.wiki.x.io/wiki/K%C3%BCrdistan_%C4%B0%C5%9F%C3%A7i_Partisi_Hayat_Evreleri, created by our fellow user Tommiks. It is more than pathetic. It even does not have one regular sentence. See, Turkish Wiki is only nominally "özgür ansiklopedi" and I am afraid they want to carry their old habits here. Behemoth 20:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that would be "his mother" above. I am reading French these days and it leads to confusion (sa mère). Behemoth 20:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Görüşmek üzere. I will now read a book by Vladimir Zhirinovsky. No, it's not in French. Ciao! Behemoth 20:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hoşçakal arkadaşım. BTW, Turkish for "Turkish people" is not Türk Milleti but Türk Halkı. millet = nation, halk = people. Behemoth 20:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah the Kurd

I just missed it, Aldux got it. Me and Aldux seem to be of the same mind. Telex 20:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your message

Well, I didn't know your bread was buttered on that side! What will it take. I have already used reuters and bbc to show the T word is POV unless described as view of THAT government or others. UN keeps redefining it. -- max rspct leave a message 23:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check it now. -- max rspct leave a message 00:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Politically sensitive or what??

What i didn't revert to u correctly? i did but edited in the section by the IP address user -- max rspct leave a message 01:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

9/11 page? Its controlled from Virginia. It would take something on scale of A_Qaeda action to get it reverted

Thanks for the encouragement. Check 9/11. You have effected good change. -- max rspct leave a message 21:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I put in 3 different genetic studies that link the Armenians to the Caucasus

Somehow I doubt that'll convince the nationalist types. Basically though, it's absurd to imagine that there is ZERO relationship with ones neighbors, whereas the Greeks are listed as a related people?! It's insane. Tombseye 02:18, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grey Wolves

Just see what this guy's doing. [19] I know he is a MHP supporter but he also has some "interesting" ideas as well. He claims that MHP was founded by Ziya Gökalp. [20] Behemoth 04:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the tag. I found out that Grey Wolves is not a part of Fascism series. How can it be, while MHP is a part of Fascism project? OK I'll make some coffee. Ciao! Behemoth 04:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource

You might be interested in reading s:Wikisource:What Wikisource includes. Per extensive recent disscussions Wikisource is no longer accepting unaffiliated reference material such as source code. Please contact me with any questions you might have.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 05:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was refering to the AfD on Thread safe VCL component programming example where I believe you voted "Move to Wikisource"--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 10:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

socks

I have blocked 5 socks of Bonaparte (four are open proxies as well), also I blocked 85.101.235.235 for one month (as it appears to be the sock of blocked 85.97.21.168 and permablocked 81.213.98.179. Uff. Any more socks?

Thanks for pointing me, these people could make a lot of damage to community if not checked abakharev 07:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Denix

He went the distance. --Moby 10:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please help

Hi. Can you please explain to this user why the additon of those categories are POV? I'd do it myself, but he hates me. —Khoikhoi 06:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, there's also a Category:Turkish terrorists. —Khoikhoi 23:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Already done. I also have placed the head category up for deletion and all its sub categories. Cat ^chi? 15:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also please archive your talk page sometime. Cat ^chi? 15:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The IP that reverted Adana was located in Instabul. The language of the edit summary is very familiar... NikoSilver ^{(T) @ (C)} 16:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quietly gathering strength

Care to sign these? : User:Revolución/Statement against Jimbocracy, User:The Ungovernable Force/manifesto Cheers! -- max rspct leave a message 16:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wik sockpuppet

Done. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TuzsuzDeliBekir

Hi, see this. Violations on two articles. Telex 20:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]