User talk:JBC3/Final Archive

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Danski14 22:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
DougsTech (talk) 05:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

County templates

Thanks for changing the county seat to Queensbury on {{Warren County, New York}}. As someone who makes a lot of these templates (although not the Warren County one), I've put in the wrong county seat plenty of times, and I definitely appreciate those locals who know that there's an error :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the links to villages and hamlets; I created these fast enough that I didn't realise that I could use a better link. Nyttend (talk) 03:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

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I'm happy to see someone working on NYS units. Thanks so much. When I started on them a couple of years ago they were a big mess. Best wishes,Stepp-Wulf (talk) 01:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC).

Thank you for the friendly and encouraging message! Take care, --JBC3 (talk) 01:31, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Washington County

Thanks for following up and adding to my edits. This county seems to have been neglected and was partly overlooked by me when doing the other NY counties. I disagree with a few points where you have changed my edits. "Town of ---" should be capital T. Communities are usually county seats, not entire towns. Notable residents should appear as a sub-header under the history section if they are "important" to the location's history -- these are not trivia items cin general... et cetera. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated because I will slog onward until the County looks better. Thanks.Stepp-Wulf (talk) 03:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC).

I've noticed you've been adding more content. Hopefully it will give me something to read about in Washington County besides the demographics. They are interesting, but dry. As for your concerns, I'll try to address them here.

• Capitalization: I agree that if one is using "Town" as part of the proper name, then it should be capitalized. It does not seem incorrect (to me anyway) to refer to "The Town of Fort Edward, New York" as simply "Fort Edward" (common usage). It is a town, so to the say the town of "Fort Edward" should be correct as well, no? Otherwise, I suppose one would always have to say either "This article is about the town of Town of Fort Edward" or "the population of Town of Ford Edward" (no "the"). Also, while GNIS refers to the place as "Town of Fort Edward", the US Census Bureau refers to it as "Fort Edward town". There does not appear to be an example specific to this in MOS:CAPS or the style handbooks I have at home. Perhaps having something specific on MOS:CAPS would be helpful. Truth be told, I used to use caps for Town always until another editor told me this wasn't the German Wikipedia (since in German all nouns are capitalized).
• County seat: The source appears to indicate that the town itself is the county seat. The municipal complex is located at 383 Broadway, which is in the town but not in the village. Similarly, the town of Queensbury serves as the county seat of Warren County.
• Notable residents: I completely agree that people who are notable in association with a place should be mentioned, but I don't agree that the way it is presented enhances the article. A nice, cited paragraph explaining how an individual is related to the topic and what impact he or she had is useful, whereas "Joe Schmo, painter" is hardly an improvement. If you want to add it back, I won't revert or delete it, but I (personally) strongly disagree with the premise that having a list of names enhances one's understanding of a place.

It's refreshing to see something on these pages besides vandalism, so I hope you'll keep up the good work. Get back to me with your thoughts when you have a moment. --JBC3 (talk) 07:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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Question!

I was wondering if you knew of a settlement article with its infobox filled out in a way that you personally prefer and would be good as a model. I've been seeing alot of infobox with terms bluelinked to generic terms, like town to town, I personally think Administrative divisions of New York#Town myself. I noticed you changed in Colonie (village), New York from List of US states to US State and thought that was a very good idea. I've also noticed alot of infoboxes are missing incorporation dates, and I though that if I'm going to go around adding those in, I might as well fix up any other formatting errors. Are there any common "errors" that I should look out for?Camelbinky (talk) 03:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know that there's a perfect infobox settlement template filled out that I can point you to. Sometimes I copy the full template from Template:Infobox settlement and just redo the entire infobox. Many empty fields that were once unused had been deleted, and once deleted they cannot be filled in at a later date until they are readded by a dedicated (no-personal-life) editor like myself. Still, there are a few things I regularly "fix up", even without redoing the entire infobox:

• change "official_name" to "name" (Official name according to whom? Conflicting reputable sources and a former bug led me to start changing this one)
• removing ", New York" from the name (Not sure I'm happy with doing this, but it makes the label on the pinpoint map look better. The state is listed in the article title, after all...)
• Settlement_type, referring to either Administrative divisions of New York# or census-designated place
• pinpoint_map = "New York", not "New York Adirondack Park" (something about seeing the county lines makes me feel better)
• population_footnotes = "{{GR|2}}", plus any reference for population estimates.
• population_as_of should say census 2000 or the like. Occasionally I'll come across "as of 2007 Census", though there is no such thing. I usually put in the census 2000 information, then add the population_est fields from the infobox template
• twin cities sections in the article can be moved into the infobox, if you feel like it
• U.S. state for State
• Administrative divisions of New York#County for County
• for villages, CDPs, and hamlets, I add another subdivision_type and subdivision_name field and add Administrative divisions of New York#Town and the name of the town
• make sure ZIP in ZIP code is all capitals

Hope you find this list helpful, and if in your travels you have a suggestion for how I can otherwise touch up the infoboxes with my future edits, let me know. --JBC3 (talk) 04:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Help me!

An editor added content to Ellenville, New York that I believe to be a copy-paste copyright violation. He deletes the tag, claiming it's not a copyvio because the information on the page came from Wikipedia. So either he is wrong/lying/mistaken and the information he is adding is a copyvio, or he is correct that it is from Wikipedia in which case using the website as a source violates WP:CIRCULAR, or perhaps directly copy-pasting content from the page is not a copyright violation and the content is also not from Wikipedia. Where do I take this to get a sufficient resolution? --JBC3 (talk) 18:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Why not just leave it alone? It seems clear that you and Kryolux are unable to work in a collaborative manner. Friday (talk) 18:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

This is why. --JBC3 (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know very much about copyright. But, I notice that the web page doesn't say "copyright". Does this matter? Friday (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

It says All Rights Reserved. I would assume that means "they" own the right to the content of that page. --JBC3 (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)