User talk:Evilmichaelscarn
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March 2020
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Hello Evilmichaelscarn. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Evilmichaelscarn. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Evilmichaelscarn|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Praxidicae (talk) 14:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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As previously advised, your edits, such as the edit you made to Saurabh Mittal, give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Evilmichaelscarn, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Evilmichaelscarn|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. Praxidicae (talk) 14:38, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Praxidicae I am not paid, nor am I expecting payment, for these edits. If the language seemed advertorial in nature, it is because I was working off a very promotional bio found online. I had tried to clean it up, but it was apparently not enough. Apologies. Evilmichaelscarn (talk) 14:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- I did not see the warning before I edited again, sorry about that.Evilmichaelscarn (talk) 14:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: Adding my 2cents. I don't know what, if anything is to be done here. I certainly have no proof of anything related to their employment, but I have found at least a portion of this accounts edits to be quite promotional in nature. Vast majority of the accounts edits are on ONE Championship related articles and, in my opinion, attempt to highlight the company and people related to it in an unrealistic, one sided manner. Certainly okay to be a fan of something and participate on editing their pages, but the tone should be suitable to wikipedia. A couple other accounts also, in my opinion, editing in a similar manner I'd like to mention if at some point anyone wants to look into these User:BearMinimum and User:PinnacleLight. Shadess (talk) 20:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Heya @Shadess: could you point out any examples of promotional language? I can’t really learn the correct tone if I’m just guessing. Being relatively new, I took cues from several existing pages from related topics, so I don't really know where I'm going wrong. Thanks! Evilmichaelscarn (talk) 01:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Some:link1, link2, link3, link4, link5, link6, link7, link8, link9. I think, but can't prove , that there are a few accounts that are people related to ONE Championship and they edit wikipedia articles to paint the company and people related to it in a very favourable PR nonsense way. Adding claims and numbers about billions of POTENTIAL viewers etc., that are fairly meaningless and hold no water but are PR kind of things these companies themselves like to tout about. So to be clear, it's not just about your account. It's users like User:BearMinimum and User:PinnacleLight and what the totality of the edits amount to. I'm just here to try and keep the pages sane and can't be bothered to edit war with people too much or try and find exact wiki guidelines to point people to every time there's an issue. Happened to notice this posting by @Praxidicae: and just added my take. If you're actually not a writer working for ONE, sorry.Shadess (talk) 22:24, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae and @Shadess I want to revist this topic since this user is very clearly employed by ONE or has some relationship to the company. HeinzMaster (talk) 23:23, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like I certainly thought so a few years ago. Shadess (talk) 18:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah because anyone pro-one MUST be an employee right? Nobody could possibly like one championship! I'm a Singaporean guy supporting a Singaporean company on a very pro-ufc/west internet. Just because it's positive doesn't mean it's promotional, especially if it's cited. If you think I'm an employee fine, ban me or whatever it is happens on wikipedia. but just be fair to one as well. Evilmichaelscarn (talk) 02:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like I certainly thought so a few years ago. Shadess (talk) 18:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae and @Shadess I want to revist this topic since this user is very clearly employed by ONE or has some relationship to the company. HeinzMaster (talk) 23:23, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Some:link1, link2, link3, link4, link5, link6, link7, link8, link9. I think, but can't prove , that there are a few accounts that are people related to ONE Championship and they edit wikipedia articles to paint the company and people related to it in a very favourable PR nonsense way. Adding claims and numbers about billions of POTENTIAL viewers etc., that are fairly meaningless and hold no water but are PR kind of things these companies themselves like to tout about. So to be clear, it's not just about your account. It's users like User:BearMinimum and User:PinnacleLight and what the totality of the edits amount to. I'm just here to try and keep the pages sane and can't be bothered to edit war with people too much or try and find exact wiki guidelines to point people to every time there's an issue. Happened to notice this posting by @Praxidicae: and just added my take. If you're actually not a writer working for ONE, sorry.Shadess (talk) 22:24, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Saurabh Mittal
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A tag has been placed on Saurabh Mittal, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Praxidicae (talk) 15:09, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Note: I've copied this from Talk:Saurabh Mittal in case the page is deleted:
- @Praxidicae: When Praxidicae tagged it ["it" being Saurabh Mittal], he used the "advertising/promotional" tag, which means the page would need to be re-written. He is NOT claiming one way or the other that that the person does or does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Peole and other topics who do NOT meet this criteria should not have articles. Articles about people or things that DO meet the criteria but which are overly promotional and which would need a total rewrite can be deleted under the "G11"/advertising criteria. See Wikipedia:Blow it up and start over an essay on this topic. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:27, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Saurabh Mittal
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A tag has been placed on Saurabh Mittal, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Praxidicae (talk) 20:38, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit] Hello, Evilmichaelscarn. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page ONE Championship, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. John Yunshire (talk) 09:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit] Hello, Evilmichaelscarn. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Chatri Sityodtong, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. John Yunshire (talk) 09:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit] Hello, Evilmichaelscarn. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Saurabh Mittal , you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. John Yunshire (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)