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"post-ratification procedure"

Hi – about your edit summary for Special:Diff/1243450754 this reversion: I wouldn’t call what’s currently going on "post-ratification procedure", either, so I’m not arguing for the change that was made, but I don’t think "ratification has not yet been completed" is correct, either – as far as I’m aware, ratification has been completed; the pending steps are depositing the instrument of ratification with the Secretary-General and waiting two months for the Statute to enter into Force for Ukraine. Joriki (talk) 00:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

There's a distinction between the domestic ratification procedure and ratification under international law.

Ukraine may have completed their internal procedures required to ratify the treaty, however it is only when they have formally notified the UN of its consent to be bound by the treaty that the ratification process at the international level is completed. Here is a sources from the UN explaining this:

• UN Glossary of terms relating to Treaty actions:

Ratification

Ratification defines the international act whereby a state indicates its consent to be bound to a treaty if the parties intended to show their consent by such an act. In the case of bilateral treaties, ratification is usually accomplished by exchanging the requisite instruments, while in the case of multilateral treaties the usual procedure is for the depositary to collect the ratifications of all states, keeping all parties informed of the situation. The institution of ratification grants states the necessary time-frame to seek the required approval for the treaty on the domestic level and to enact the necessary legislation to give domestic effect to that treaty.

Once they submit their instrument of ratification then ratification would be completed. However, they wouldn't become a party to the treaty (or a member of the ICC) until it enters into force. TDL (talk) 03:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that’s very helpful! Joriki (talk) 06:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Ukraine–Commonwealth of Independent States relations

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List of U.S. and Canadian cities by number of major professional sports teams

Regarding the above referenced article, I note that you changed "metropolitan area" back to "urban area", even though there are articles for both. So, please explain what you mean by "align with cited source". Alielmi1207 (talk) 00:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Someone had changed Salt Lake City's population, so it did not align with the source cited in the header of the table: [1]

That source uses urban populations, rather than metro populations, since they are more meaningful and comparable across jurisdictions. TDL (talk) 02:55, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated. I found the following Wikipedia article that could apply here:

List of North American metropolitan areas by population

Wouldn't it make more sense to extract the population data from it and list it as the cited source, instead of the current source (Demographica report)? If yes, then references to "urban area" can be changed to "metropolitan area". Alielmi1207 (talk) 18:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

That list is probably too granular, as for instance San Francisco/San Jose and Baltimore/Washington are separate metro areas even though they are considered to be part of the same market.

An issue with using a list based on political boundaries (as the link you shared does) is that they are not consistently defined by the statistical agencies in the USA and Canada, so combining them into a single list is not really meaningful. Relying on an independent source to apply a consistent approach based on urban areas eliminates that problem. TDL (talk) 23:43, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Why did you revert my edit

You reverted my edit to the Kingdom of the Netherlands,how was it not an improvement,maybe adding the long form names was unesessery,okay,but what about adding the link to the page about the netherlands? How is that not an improvement,can you please explain? UnsungHistory (Questions or Concerns?) (See how I messed up) 23:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @UnsungHistory: I revered because Netherlands is already linked in the previous sentence, and adding another link is not really helpful per MOS:DUPLICATELINK. Also, Wikipedia generally prefers to use WP:COMMONNAMES rather than WP:OFFICIALNAMES, since that is what readers will be most familiar with. TDL (talk) 01:34, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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