User talk:D.M.N./Archive 4
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Int. Eng.
You closed the AfD far too early, half the world hadn't even woken up to see it, and I disagree with SNOW, there was a chance that I would pass, otherwise I wouldn't nominate it. Two users on the talk expressed will towards deletion and you didn't even give them a chance to vote. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Re:Coaching
Thanks, and same to you. Cheers, Lex T/C Guest Book 20:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Zionist attitudes, etc.
In your close of this AfD you seem to be saying that the fact that several editors agreed with the same argument for deletion is evidence of "sockpuppetry". How did you reach that conclusion? Aren't editors allowed to agree with each other? 6SJ7 (talk) 21:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
You closed this as keep but also voted in the discussion. This isn't appropriate. Your recent AFD closes seem to be creating more then expected discussion here. I'd suggest going a lot slower with closes and sticking to absolutely non-controversial closes from here on in. Please consider relisting the above article as it is now too late to reopen the discussion. Spartaz Humbug! 09:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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Now drop and give me FIFTY!
How in god's name did you come with this as a no-consensus? The deleted arguments were based on policy and the keep arguments were mostly based on proof by assertion or ILIKEIT. Since you can't actually reverse the decision and delete, I'm going to suggest that we take this to DRV. Agree? Spartaz Humbug! 09:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if you took my comments as uncivil but if you want to be an admin you will need to develop a very thick skin. Non-admin closures of AFDs should only be uncontroversial keeps and a no-consensus is by definition not an uncontroversial keep. You should not have closed it and there is no probably about your closing a debate you were a part of. I'll take them to DRV later when I have time to write them up...
- If you want to learn more about deletion and consensus you should spend some time at DRV as debates often revolve around process and consensus and its a good way to learn the ropes. Also spend some time reading closure comments by admins dealing with contentious and lengthy AFDs (if you see one on AFD patrol make a note and go back when its closed). That's the best way to learn about how it works. Deletion is invariably an area of friction and, if you are serious in becoming an admin, you should avoid boldness in closing debates. Spartaz Humbug! 20:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just to let you know, I'm going hold off DRVing those two AFDs to give the Transhumanist a chance to review the concerns and comments I have just left on your coaching page. I am concerned that the advice and encouragement you have had to be bold is not in your best interests. Spartaz Humbug! 20:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I invite you to read my critiques of his closings, and the general advice I provided. If there is anything in particular that I said that you take issue with, please let me know, and we can discuss it. ;) The Transhumanist 02:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Please don't speedy close AfD discussions only seven hours after the article is listed. Corvus cornixtalk 23:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I echo the above. We aren't in any hurry. Speedy keeping is for bad faith nominations, disruption, and scenarios where no-one actually wants the article to be deleted. It is not for good faith nominations where at least the nominator wants the article deleted. I've re-opened the discussion. Uncle G (talk) 03:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, OK. D.M.N. (talk) 13:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
AWB
Your approval for AWB was tied into your old account - which is no longer available to you. Do you want me to add this account to the approved list for you? Cheers Spartaz Humbug! 20:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's done but the fulkl stop confused me about where the namre should go in the list. P@lease give it a go and let me know if there is a problem. Spartaz Humbug! 17:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks very much! Good to see you back (under a new username I see - that took a while for me to notice!). Looks like you've been pretty busy recently, I just read that thing about your edits to the Bhutto article making the press - how random is that?! ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 14:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm going to make an effort to be on Wikipedia quite a bit now although it does depend on me having the available time. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 02:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Dead links
According to WP:DEADLINK, you actually aren't supposed to remove a link just because it's dead. Instead, you are supposed to tag it with {{Dead link}}. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ Spyke (talk • contribs) 13 January 2008
Vandalism
Just to let you know, an old friend of yours visited your talkpage today! Ahhh, a Vandal Killer's work is never done! ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 07:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
SSP
File an RFCU, probably best in the IP section, to get the underlying IP(s) blocked. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Anderson Windows
You were the closing editor for this AFD, article is clearly advertising for a N/N company WP:SPAM, nor does the article meet WP:CORP how can you justify closing the debate? -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
WrestleMania 23 Production reply
Thanks. I really appreciate your comment. Here's hoping for FA status soon!-- bulletproof 3:16 01:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
See your coaching page (eom)
Rudget!
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keith Ferguson (section)
HI. I noted you closed the above afd. I don't overly disagree with your close, although you should expand on your reasons a bit more, but I think as a non-admin you should avoid closing debates in which you have been involved. It's usually a bad call for an admin to close a debate they've commented in, so a non-admin, should try and avoid anything controversial. Also, you need to remember to subst the deletion templates, {{subst:afd-top}} and {{subst:afd-bottom}}. Anyway, all the best and happy editing. Hiding T 20:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Re:The Edit
I did the edit, because the column says "Created by". If it said "Expanded by", then it would be correct, however, that's not the case. And he did create the article so his credit should be noted. Lex T/C Guest Book 20:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Just a reminder that you placed the review of the above on hold. I believe the changes you required have now been incorporated. Kindly render your opinion. Many thanks, Ohconfucius (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Do you think its GA material? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 02:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'll probably add more info. this afternoon. But thanks for the comments, I appreciate it. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Question: Are you going to expand No Way Out (2008)? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. Cause I was hoping that maybe I can join the expansion for NWO. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- You're more than welcome to join. ;) Just add this box ---> {{User:UBX/The Kliq}}
. Are you going to help us expand Survivor Series? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, you're such a great help. I've been reading a little further and for the September 6 edition of Raw and basically there's nothing to add. Do you agree? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll add it; how would I write it? Cause in a few minutes I'm going to church. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I added the September 6 results. Does that work? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Cool. Is it ready to be nominated? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Done. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, it might help the article. But, one question though; I've been reading and it really doesn't have any feuds to follow it. What do I do? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- True, I'll work on that. Thanks, Davnel or DMN. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, it might help the article. But, one question though; I've been reading and it really doesn't have any feuds to follow it. What do I do? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Done. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Cool. Is it ready to be nominated? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I added the September 6 results. Does that work? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll add it; how would I write it? Cause in a few minutes I'm going to church. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, you're such a great help. I've been reading a little further and for the September 6 edition of Raw and basically there's nothing to add. Do you agree? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- You're more than welcome to join. ;) Just add this box ---> {{User:UBX/The Kliq}}
. Are you going to help us expand Survivor Series? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. Cause I was hoping that maybe I can join the expansion for NWO. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Will you be needing help? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want you going it alone. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm starting on the Aftermath, how does it look? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
This and that
You said, "I think some users need to think about the effect their posts can have on others before posting it."
Do you think my post at WP:AN could have been a factor in Rlevse leaving?
Wait ... never mind. My post at AN was at 03:32 20 January 2008 (UTC). Rlevse said "I quit" on AN/I at 03:16 20 January 2008 (UTC) -- before my post.
Well, that's a relief.
OK, I don't have to resign too. (Just kidding: I wouldn't have.)
I really hope Rlevse and Rudget both come back. --Coppertwig (talk) 12:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Don't worry about me. I'm fine. I did think you might have meant me, at first, but when I checked the times of the posts I figured that hadn't been what you meant. And I wouldn't have resigned anyway. And I'm not an admin, anyway. :-) Thinking before posting is always a good idea. --Coppertwig (talk) 12:52, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oops. I just mean, you're right. (See?) --Coppertwig (talk) 12:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the comments about me =]. I've done nothing by my best to help Wikipedia.
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To D.M.N for spending so much time working on the PPV expansion! iMatthew 17:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC) |
Check it Out
Click the link on, "The Kliq"'s userbox, check out the new section I just finished. iMatthew 19:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also, check this out. The Chronic 23:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Edinburgh Place Ferry Pier
Thank you for completing your review. I would kindly ask you to take it off the nominations page and put it on the Arts section of Good articles. Whilst I have replaced the GA tag on the article with an {{articlehistory}} tag, I feel it would represent a conflict of interest for me to complete the bureaucratic process. Many thanks. Ohconfucius (talk) 02:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The Kliq
Hey, I just stopped by to say congrats on joining the Kliq. I would have said this sooner, but I was busy all day and never had the chance to get on. Cheers, LAX 04:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Wait!
I'm looking for some right now! I'm not done with it yet. iMatthew 16:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- ha, you had me fooled. i was like, "NOOOO, WAIT I JUST STARTED!" lol. iMatthew 16:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- you can vote for our next project on Blue's talk page. iMatthew 20:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, check out our new page, by clicking the link in, "The Kliq" userbox. Also, read the discussions on Blue and LAX' talk pages for things you might have missed today. iMatthew 00:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Returning
After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
You have done some commendable work on this article and you nominated for FA status a while back. I gave feedback which was never addressed and the nom failed because of this. Since then almost nothing has been done to the article so have you abandoned this as a project? I think it's a shame if you have bacause it looked close to a FA. Buc (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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I am allowed to remove stuff from my page. Knock it off.LifeStroke420 (talk) 18:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I didnt abandon it i dont like the middle parts so im not putting it on it.LifeStroke420 (talk) 19:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- If the warning is still apart of the page history, why do you and everyone else insist on putting it back in? Mshake3 (talk) 22:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Barnstar
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I, Zenlax would like to award the Tireless Contributor Barnstar to D.M.N., LAX, ThinkBlue, Truco9311 and iMatthew for their hard work on expanding Survivor Series (2002). Keep up the good work. Zenlax T C S 20:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC) |
- I'll make sure to give in my support. How would you feel, in the future, if I requested an Rfa? Zenlax T C S 20:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have left a message on your coaches talk page. So, we'll see what happens there. Do you think I would have a chance of becoming an Administrator? Zenlax T C S 20:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I will take your advice on all of that. As of right now, I'm trying to heal my back. But, when I get well, I'll immediately take part on the steps you've recommended me. Zenlax T C S 20:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- When you say "more activity at WP:AFD", do you mean report more AfDs or vote in more AfDs? Cheers, LAX 21:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've read and thanks for clearing that up. Cheers, LAX 21:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- When you say "more activity at WP:AFD", do you mean report more AfDs or vote in more AfDs? Cheers, LAX 21:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I will take your advice on all of that. As of right now, I'm trying to heal my back. But, when I get well, I'll immediately take part on the steps you've recommended me. Zenlax T C S 20:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have left a message on your coaches talk page. So, we'll see what happens there. Do you think I would have a chance of becoming an Administrator? Zenlax T C S 20:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I understand that you're still working on Survivor Series, but how come Truco and Matt haven't been working on the article? Its no problem that your way ahead of us in time. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll ask them to clarify what's going on. I live in Las Vegas, Nevada. As for WWE events, I have attended Vengeance 2004, WrestleMania 21, Royal Rumble (2007), No Way Out (2007), WrestleMania 23, and maybe I'll go to No Way Out (2008). Let me ask, are you one of those fans that boo John Cena, when the WWE is in the U.K.? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh wow. See, I'm a baseball fan and I root for my team, the Los Angeles Dodgers and Cena is a Boston Red Sox fan, which they happen to be a team that I despise. But somehow, I'm still a Cena fan. Thanks and I'll see what I can do with SS. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Question: What should I do for Unforgiven (2005)? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is still long isn't it? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll do that. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 19:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, how 'bout now? P.S. It went from 32 kilobytes long, to 30 kilobytes. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll keep working on that. Question: Shouldn't the match between Shane McMahon and Kane be one of the undercard matches in SS2003? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alrighty, then. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Line for Line. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- I trimmed it down. How does Unforgiven look? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 19:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Line for Line. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alrighty, then. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll keep working on that. Question: Shouldn't the match between Shane McMahon and Kane be one of the undercard matches in SS2003? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, how 'bout now? P.S. It went from 32 kilobytes long, to 30 kilobytes. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll do that. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 19:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is still long isn't it? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Question: What should I do for Unforgiven (2005)? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh wow. See, I'm a baseball fan and I root for my team, the Los Angeles Dodgers and Cena is a Boston Red Sox fan, which they happen to be a team that I despise. But somehow, I'm still a Cena fan. Thanks and I'll see what I can do with SS. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I just need some tips for the article to be a future GA candidate. Anyways, yeah I'll help you in expanding the Event section, I don't mind. So, can I add myself next to you on the PPV list? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 00:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
WrestleMania XX reply
I am aware that the article is currently in the process of being expanded. However, regardless of what condition the article is currently in, there is a certain standard format set for all articles to follow. My edits are based on the WP:PW MoS agreed on by the project. If you have any reason as to why you do not agree with the format, I suggest we further discuss this on the article’s talk page. I also do not want this to escalate into an Edit War. I'll be looking forward to seeing the article after its expansion, but even so, there is a certain format it must follow. -- bulletproof 3:16 00:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- The only thing you did is revert. Again, the article is supposed to follow a certain format. What you did with December to Dismember is of no concern to the WrestleMania article. -- bulletproof 3:16 10:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- It is also supposed to introduce the reader to the content of the article. All you added was note the main events and gave out the results in the intro and add POV note on the Lesnar/Goldberg match. How does that introduce a reader to the article or even summarize the entire event? In the Background section you placed the resulting gross of the event. The Background section is used for noting things that lead up to the event. If you believe your edits in this form will get this article to GA status, I would certainly question your judgment.-- bulletproof 3:16 10:31, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- I was referring to other WrestleMania articles currently in expansion or about to finish being expanded, such as WrestleMania 23. -- bulletproof 3:16 10:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- It is the format we use for all PPVs articles including the ones you mentioned. The problem is that you're mixing everything up so bad that it looks nothing like what the format is supposed to be. If you cant see this, then I suggest you re-read what you are typing. -- bulletproof 3:16 10:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's more like it. It's in much better order. -- bulletproof 3:16 11:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sure no worries. I know it really has been a problem for some. Glad I could help clarify. -- bulletproof 3:16 11:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's more like it. It's in much better order. -- bulletproof 3:16 11:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- It is the format we use for all PPVs articles including the ones you mentioned. The problem is that you're mixing everything up so bad that it looks nothing like what the format is supposed to be. If you cant see this, then I suggest you re-read what you are typing. -- bulletproof 3:16 10:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Conversations
I'd like to inform you that you were my fiftieth conversation on my talk page! Woohoo! And you also are the 150th conversation!
- 50 was about Cyber Sunday (2006)
- 150 was about User:AmishThrasher and WrestleMania III
Cheers, Lex T/C Guest Book 14:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Huggle whitelist
Moving it to the Wikipedia: space could cause problems. Let's see... Majorly (talk) 15:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind, seems to work. Majorly (talk) 15:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Royal Rumble 2008
On WWE.com it say Mike Adamle joins WWE Yet every time I put it in and get taken out
Supermike(talk) 12:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Re: Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar!! NiciVampireHeart (talk) 19:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Where's my barnstar!? just kidding. Keep up the good work on WMXX! iMatthew 20:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- LOL..Where did you come from??..buh ok if u say so..--TrUCo9311 22:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Survivor Series
Oh, thanks for having faith on Unforgiven 2004. ;) Anyways, yeah let's see what happens for U2005. Hey, after your done with SS, you wanna work on Survivor Series 2006? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is the sarcasm for the fact that John Cena won the Rumble? Is it? Or, is it for Survivor Series 2006? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 00:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know. I already told LAX that if Cimmo doesn't touch the article, we'll take it from him. Hey, I just need one more match for SS, are you going to work on the Aftermath? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try. But, can you point out what I need in the Aftermath, from your POV in PPV's. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright. I mean, I can help you with adding refs. to the article, but expanding the aftermath would probably be hard on my part, since you ended up writing the feuds and all. You know what I mean? But, I would definitely help you expand Survivor Series '06, that's if you're still on board for it. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 00:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try. But, can you point out what I need in the Aftermath, from your POV in PPV's. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know. I already told LAX that if Cimmo doesn't touch the article, we'll take it from him. Hey, I just need one more match for SS, are you going to work on the Aftermath? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
You've got email
The Transhumanist (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it seems to of not arrived. Are you sure you e-mailled it to me and no one else? Could you resend it to: neldav03 AT hotmail DOT com (note: substitute the at and dot for @ and .) Cheers, D.M.N. (talk) 17:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've also left a note on the coaching page about the propsal. D.M.N. (talk) 17:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the email didn't bounce, so maybe it's in your spam folder. It's mostly moot now anyways. I've replied on your coaching page. The Transhumanist 18:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
RfC
I am in fact certain the incomplete RfC in question is aimed at me, and actually saw it earlier when looking over that editor's recent contributions. Thanks for pointing it out to me, though. I presonally am not particularly worried about it, as it hasn't demonstrated the earlier attempts required. I think. Like I said earlier, this individual's conduct is becoming increasingly erratic. Recently, he has arrogantly demanded that I tell him how it was I acquired his e-mail, evidently not knowing that he enabled e-mail. He has also, as per the talk page of Nontrinitarianism, stated that his original contribution to that page was in fact a statement of his own opinion. He has subsequently insulted both me and Logan, questioned our integrity, demanded that Logan produce evidence which he did not see fit to produce himself regarding his own additions, and acted, at best, strangely. John Carter (talk) 18:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
RE: Congrats!
Thank you very much. I'll probably send out a detailed thank you tomorrow. Cheers, LAX 20:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Re: No Way Out
"Correct usage - However, it was during a World Heavyweight Championship match between Goldberg and Shawn Michaels on the October 20 edition of Raw... (in this case the name is italicized because it refers to the TV show. "edition of...")" This is what it says on the page, so I was going by this..--TrUCo9311 22:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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Re: Cimmo
Oh, again? Does this guy understand English? Whatever, if he continues I guess we can report him for not listening. Hey, are we going to work on Survivor Series '06? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, can you finish the Aftermath section for WrestleMania XX please. We'd like to finish it A.S.A.P. iMatthew 2008 21:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I see your points, so I deeply apologize. I hope you will accept my apology! iMatthew 2008 21:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, have a nice break and I'll see you when you come back. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just one thing, please do not start a new project (Unforgiven) yet. We would like to finish at least half of our projects before starting anything new. Thanks! iMatthew 2008 22:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, have a nice break and I'll see you when you come back. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- I see your points, so I deeply apologize. I hope you will accept my apology! iMatthew 2008 21:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Collaboration
I'm pushing a collaboration to complete the list of basic space exploration topics.
Should be fun. Drop on by. ;)
Also, see my post to User talk:Quiddity#Basic topic lists if you want to delve in deeper.
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Eighth member
- Cross-posted to other Kliq members
I know this sounds ridiculous (having an eighth member), but would you mind if bulletproof 3:16 were to join the Kliq? He's an experienced member of WP:PW who would definitely help us with our expansion of pay-per-views. Cheers, LAX 10:12, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
- If I have any time, I will be more than happy to help you with Unforgiven (2001). Cheers, LAX 11:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, please go check out the new discussion at The Kliq's page. iMatthew 2008 18:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Userboxes
Thanks for fixing my userboxes! Happy editing, Bardofcornish (talk) 21:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
No Way Out (2004)
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- Yea, I can see by your comments XD.--TrUCo9311 15:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
New poll up at The Kliq's talk page iMatthew 2008 15:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Heyman interview
Not sure how reliable The Sun is, but here you go. It's an interesting read, at any rate. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/heyman/article762131.ece Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- The Sun is a rag of a newspaper, but it is considered reliable. –– Lid(Talk) 00:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
RE:Bulletproof/LAX
Oh, ok. I see, well then I don't think Bulletproof will be back on for a while, but isn't he just blocked for 24 hours?--TrUCo9311 21:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Category:Over the Edge
I don't think this is really needed. Since the name was retired by WWE, it will never have more than the 2 entries it already has. TJ Spyke 12:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Re: Holly Cousins
Thank you. I appreciate the compliment! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, ok. That does make sense. Thanks! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 13:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Twiddling my thumbs
Hi i'm Steelerfan-94. I was gonna ask you if I can add you to my list of Wiki users i'm cool with? O and is there any article I can help you on i'm twiddling my thumbs here, Thanks Steelerfan-94 23:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC).
Coaching
I resign.
I've moved your coaching page to your userspace for safekeeping.
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Admins
Hi. I suggest one thing you can do is watch the deletion log for admins busy mopping. Ask one if they wouldn't mind if you watched over their shoulder, ie let them throw a few tool-related decisions at you and see if you concur. Speedies, AfD closures, AIV reports, protection requests, that kind of thing. I did that (I called it "sharpening my antennae") before my RfA. The feedback was useful when I got it wrong. --Dweller (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- I do a lot of speedy deletion these days. Occasionally, I'm challenged, but it's rare. Hard for you to see 'em, because as a non admin, you can't see them once they're zapped. However, I was challenged for an AfD I listed last night - take a look through my contribs. Another way of doing this with speedies is to peruse CAT:CSD and pick one or two and watch them and see what happens. You'll find the ones that are denied the most instructive. Also, be aware that admins will often have speciality areas and those they won't touch. I find, for example, my fingers are too twitchy with new bands and so I won't delete unless the article is really really really bare and dreadful. On the other hand, I seek out biogs - except musicians'. --Dweller (talk) 14:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Check out Jamshed Kazi. Verdict? --Dweller (talk) 14:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Your welcome. And enjoy your time off. I'll be away the coming week also, as I'll be on vacation. Hey, if your not busy right now, can you help me clean up John Hennigan? iMatthew 2008 12:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Do you want me to work on something? So, it can be finished. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- We wouldn't work no this project until maybe mid-April, once all of our current proejects are done. You wouldn't come back for one final PPV project with us then though? iMatthew 2008 14:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll give you a buzz. iMatthew 2008 15:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
LAX is re-writing the main event later on today. iMatthew 2008 15:44, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- LOL, what Matt said! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there. I have seen that you use huggle by the fact that you have automatically updated the huggle white list(it does this when closing huggle). I was wondering if you would add the category [[Category:Wikipedians who use Huggle]] to your user page so that it fills out and we know who actually uses huggle. If you do not want to you do not have to. I am also sorry if i have already talked to you about this or you no longer use huggle but i sent it to everyone that has edited the page since mid January. I hope we can start to fill out this category. If you would like to reply to this message then please reply on my talk page as i will probably not check here again. Thanks. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 18:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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Can you please read over SummerSlam (2007) and give me your thoughts on what you think? Thanks. --Cheers, LAX 22:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Pseudoscience discretionary sanctions
Hi! As somebody who commented on a January proposal to place all articles related to homeopathy on article probation, I would greatly appreciate your input on a new proposal to help combat disruption that would scrap the probation and implement discretionary sanctions. I apologize for any intrusion, but this is to my knowledge the first time sanctions of this nature have been attempted to be enforced by the community, so I feel that a wide range of opinions is necessary. Thank you in advance for any comments you may make. east718 (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
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No problem! I hope improving the article goes well.-- Diniz (talk) 19:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
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Survivor Series (2002)
Your edits: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]. Your name was added by iMatthew [8]. --13 of Diamonds (talk) 23:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
The Kliq
I hope you haven't changed your mind about helping with a group project. (To be you ifnal project with us). If you would still like to, we will start on Thursday. Please also vote on the second to last round of voting on the Kliq's talk page. iMatthew 2008 18:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Are you sure, you wouldn't like to help at all? Even just fixing up is ok. You don't have to write anything, maybe just fixing spelling and grammar. (Which we need somebody to do anyway). iMatthew 2008 18:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I took care of him for you. –Cheers, LAX 19:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. Looks like he didn't get very far in his "payback." –Cheers, LAX 20:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Will do. ;) –Cheers, LAX 21:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like he "outsmarted us." XD –Cheers, LAX 13:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not to be rude or anything at all, but you never responded to my last comment above. iMatthew 2008 13:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok cool! Right now we have one spot left on backgorund, one on event, two on aftermath, and one on cleanup/sourcing. Can you vote at The Kliq's talk page on what ppv we are not going to do. iMatthew 2008 14:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! iMatthew 2008 14:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- He's really smart. –Cheers, LAX 15:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! iMatthew 2008 14:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok cool! Right now we have one spot left on backgorund, one on event, two on aftermath, and one on cleanup/sourcing. Can you vote at The Kliq's talk page on what ppv we are not going to do. iMatthew 2008 14:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not to be rude or anything at all, but you never responded to my last comment above. iMatthew 2008 13:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like he "outsmarted us." XD –Cheers, LAX 13:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Will do. ;) –Cheers, LAX 21:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. Looks like he didn't get very far in his "payback." –Cheers, LAX 20:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I took care of him for you. –Cheers, LAX 19:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I declined the speedy delete request on Jim Samuel. It may be a hoax, but it is coherent and not nonsense. I see it failed {{prod}}. I recommend you take it to WP:AfD. Toddst1 (talk) 22:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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I don't really do coaching but it strikes me that your anniversary for being unblocked is only a few months away. If you were still interested in adminship, that would be a good date to retest the waters. If so, you probably need to re-involve yourself in things like AFD, DRV and CSD. If you are interested I can run you through a few scenarios to help you test yourself out. If you want to go alone I strongly advise you to keep a close eye on DRV as the deconstruction of deletion decisions there is highly instructive. Spartaz Humbug! 18:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, please go vote for our project. iMatthew 2008 21:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
AFD Reviews
Hi
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Industrial Systems Research. While this is clearly a deletion I wonder if you can work out which arguments are valid and which should be discarded? Spartaz Humbug! 21:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- The first delete by Smerdis of Tlön seems fair, but the 2nd delete by SFC9394, doesn't say exactly why he thinks it should be deleted. His decision seems more based on the user's reputation rather than the quality of the article. Even if there is some kind of COI, there might still be some outside sources available to help improve the quality of the article. The third one is OK, yet, sources could still be found (if possible). jonathon also says that it "reads like a publishers catalog", suggesting that it is not in encyclopedic tone. So out of the three, I'd probably discard the 2nd one. D.M.N. (talk) 19:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Close. Personally, I'd discard the first and second deletion votes. COI isn't a reason to delete. Most AFDs come down to notability and verifiability and being a publishing house for nn books can still be notable if someone writes about them... Being written in an unencyclopaedic tone doesn't get you deleted either. The fatal point for this article was the lack of sourcing, Fisher Queen had done a very thorough job looking for sources before nominating which is always a very good thing to see in a nom. Spartaz Humbug! 19:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Close. Personally, I'd discard the first and second deletion votes. COI isn't a reason to delete. Most AFDs come down to notability and verifiability and being a publishing house for nn books can still be notable if someone writes about them... Being written in an unencyclopaedic tone doesn't get you deleted either. The fatal point for this article was the lack of sourcing, Fisher Queen had done a very thorough job looking for sources before nominating which is always a very good thing to see in a nom. Spartaz Humbug! 19:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- The first delete by Smerdis of Tlön seems fair, but the 2nd delete by SFC9394, doesn't say exactly why he thinks it should be deleted. His decision seems more based on the user's reputation rather than the quality of the article. Even if there is some kind of COI, there might still be some outside sources available to help improve the quality of the article. The third one is OK, yet, sources could still be found (if possible). jonathon also says that it "reads like a publishers catalog", suggesting that it is not in encyclopedic tone. So out of the three, I'd probably discard the 2nd one. D.M.N. (talk) 19:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Also see [[9]]. There is a lot of text here. Which arguments are relevant and which do you think should be discarded? How would you close this one? Spartaz Humbug! 22:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- From the outset, there is pretty clearly sockpuppetry your dealing with here. In normal circumstances, I would consider the opinions from the original account, but remove all other accounts created by that particular person. "Dogfit" has a pretty clear COI - "I served in the MFO a couple" - saying he served in the MFO is COI as he is/was closely involed in the subject. As "Moondyne" rightly points out, Glanvis, SigsA, Proqa, Crynt1, Dumbelmore have not contributed much outside the topic. Blatant conflict of interest and potentional sockpuppetry by those accounts.
:That leaves us with 2 delete and 1 merge. If I was left with that, I would delete it, as there are clearly no notable outside sources available. This website is the only references in the article, and that appears to be a government website. D.M.N. (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)- And so it was closed ;). Excellent analysis. Spartaz Humbug! 22:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
AFD Redux
Should we create a subpage to keep these tidy? What do you think about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Last of The Summer Wine cast members. How would you close this one? Spartaz Humbug! 22:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Definite delete. Pretty obviously an indiscriminate list. The second option would be to merge into Last of The Summer Wine, but as one of them commented, that would probably not work. D.M.N. (talk) 14:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- and this one [[10]] What should we do with this? Spartaz Humbug! 22:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete again. As Phil Bridger shows, sources do exist, but all are from a single book. In my opinion, sources are needed from several different locations to show an articles notability, which this article badly fails. As Chanigo points out, the book sources aren't very reliable. As no one else in the deletion debate has provided different sources, I would say it's a delete. The term in the article seems a little vague, so if it was kept, I suggest that the article should maybe be reworded. D.M.N. (talk) 14:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Both spot on. You seem to have the hang of this. Lets try something different. I'll do it on your coaching page Spartaz Humbug! 22:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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Re: Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar. Its cool, man. I know even if you knew me or not, you had to give your opinion on what my failures would be as Admin. Like you said, maybe in a few months I'll try this again and see if it works out or not. ;) And for the record, we're still pals. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'd give my support to ya. I trust you. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Something we have in common. I too, was blocked, see here. But I think your reputation has cooled off. You know, I'm shocked that no one brought up my previous blocks to the discussion. I thought they were going to start with this user is not reliable because she was blocked, etc..... -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Jeez, thanks for having my back. Sarcasm. IDK, cause when I got my name changed, I thought that my Zero history was going to be added with ThinkBlue. I guess not. When do you plan on getting your Rfa? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- That's something that I have in mind. But, isn't it full or something? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Jeez, thanks for having my back. Sarcasm. IDK, cause when I got my name changed, I thought that my Zero history was going to be added with ThinkBlue. I guess not. When do you plan on getting your Rfa? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Something we have in common. I too, was blocked, see here. But I think your reputation has cooled off. You know, I'm shocked that no one brought up my previous blocks to the discussion. I thought they were going to start with this user is not reliable because she was blocked, etc..... -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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Cheers for the review, and boy was that a quick one :p. I'll start working on it now. Sunderland06 19:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- I believed I have corrected the article regarding your comments. Thanks. Sunderland06 02:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Japan '95
Sorry I totally forgot I'd said that! Thanks for the reminder, I'll have a look through it as soon as I get a chance, and leave any suggestions on the article talk page. One quick comment I'd make, have you considered having something like "* All race results and timings are taken from the Official Formula 1 Website. (cite web |title |url etc.)" at the bottom of the references list, instead of needing to < ref > all the positions and times in the main article text? AlexJ (talk) 21:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, yeah. Forgot FOM's website doesn't give quali. results. Ignore that suggestion! AlexJ (talk) 23:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'd imagine you're watching the page anyway, but just to let you know some comments are now on the talk page. AlexJ (talk) 19:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the barnstar! Hope you can get the article through GA soon, looks like a lot of the backlog is being dealt with so hopefully someone will get round to reviewing it fairly quickly. AlexJ (talk) 21:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'd imagine you're watching the page anyway, but just to let you know some comments are now on the talk page. AlexJ (talk) 19:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)