User talk:Conlon Nancarrow

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Your edits to Matthew King (composer)

Hello, Conlon Nancarrow. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Matthew King (composer), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Voceditenore (talk) 08:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Conlon Nancarrow (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I will never use multiple accounts again for illegitmate purposes. I apologise for causing disruption on Wikipedia.

Decline reason:

And you think that is all you need do to be unblocked. Sorry, it's not that simple. Please list all other accounts and IP's you've used. Please list the accounts of anyone with whom you have coordinated edits off-wiki. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. If you have an off-wiki relationship with any subject on Wikipedia about which you have edited, please state said relationship below. Please understand you have destroyed the community's trust in you and you must regain that trust to be unblocked.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Conlon Nancarrow (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have read the guide to appealing blocks. I am aware now that using multiple accounts in the way that I have done is contrary to the rules of Wikipedia and I will cease to do so. I understand the Conflict of Interest rule and will not edit on behalf of anyone I know in future. I will avoid causing damage and will ensure that, in future, I only make useful contributions instead. I will immediately cease to employ the accounts Conlon Nancarrow and James Frederick Lowry and Leila Rendel. I realise that doing so made me guilty of sockpuppetry and I understand now that this is a violation of trust for which I wholeheartedly and unreservedly apologise. I have edited Matthew King's page because he is a former teacher and colleague but I have not been paid for the edits. They were accurate career descriptions. However I realise that my activity was absolutely inappropriate and will cease to engage in multiple account usage from now on. I am very sorry for any disruption I have caused.

Decline reason:

If you are going to "immediately cease to employ the accounts Conlon Nancarrow and James Frederick Lowry and Leila Rendel" then there is no need for any of them to be unblocked. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:22, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Note Matthew King (composer) is promotional in tone, content, and intent, complete with cherry-picked "praise quotes", as are all the related articles on his works. Your additions under your various guises are not merely "accurate career descriptions". Frankly, I also doubt very much that you are simply a "former student and colleague" of his. Your choice of account names are strongly connected to King's personal life. His father's full name was James Frederick Lowry King. Both he and Matthew King worked at the school Leila Rendel started. You were able to (a) obtain and (b) claim to hold the copyright to this image of King, and you posted this obscure information which as far as I can see is published nowhere online. Not to mention this opinionated edit about the village next to the one where King lives. In the coming weeks I plan to clean up and rewrite this article to conform to the standards of an encyclopedia article, rather than a personal promotion page. If you are ever unblocked, you must commit to refrain from directly editing the article (and the associated ones on his works) and instead request edits on the article talk pages for unconnected editors to evaluate and implement, if warranted. Voceditenore (talk) 09:13, 25 September 2018 (UTC). Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 11:06, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, do you have any relation to the accounts Less Brass (talk · contribs) and Ripabollockov (talk · contribs) who have also engaged in promotional editing of this composer and his works? Voceditenore (talk) 09:20, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This all goes back to at least 2011. Which is your original account~ which account do you intend to use?-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 11:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dlohcierekim, of the three confirmed socks Conlon Nancarrow is the oldest, created in June 2011. Leila Rendel was created in January 2014. James Frederick Lowry was created in June 2017. All three were actively editing right up to the day before they were blocked. After the block, all three edited their talk pages on the same day requesting an unblock [1], [2], [3]. I strongly suspect that the previous accounts Less Brass (created March 2010) and Ripabollockov (created March 2009) are also his, but both accounts are stale. The promotion of Matthew King and his works (several of dubious notability) began in 2009, e.g. [4] and [5]. Voceditenore (talk) 12:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC) Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 14:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note also this is a CheckUser block. Voceditenore (talk) 14:07, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Voceditenore: I think if he wants unblock he should request on original account. I think he needs to come forth about all other accounts. And yes, this is a CU block, so I will not b unblocking. Just seeking more information.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:52, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The bit about "immediately cease to employ the accounts Conlon Nancarrow and James Frederick Lowry and Leila Rendel" raised the question in my mind so yes, we need more info and no, I ain't the one to unblock.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:55, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Voceditenore: Admirable investigation. It's a fair cop. I've learnt my lesson. It's more clumsy and naive than it appears: I have set up several accounts and tend to forget passwords. The accounts you identify - Less Brass (talk · contribs) and Ripabollockov (talk · contribs) - are old ones that I had forgotten about. All info on the page is, in point of fact, accurate with regard to commissioning, performance details, awards, reviews etc. The phrase "of dubious notability" is, with respect, harsh. How many works of Schubert or Janacek or Mompou or Webern or Ruth Crawford Seeger or Percy Grainger or Lord Berners etc. were widely known or written about during their lives? And in the current culture most new music gets relatively little attention. At least the works you mention exist in the public domain and have been commissioned and performed in the locations, and by the performers, specified. I accept that I have been an idiot, and the different accounts are invalidated. However your suggestion of an original account would be helpful, if only "to request edits on the article talk pages for unconnected editors to evaluate and implement, if warranted".

I did not propose you using an "original account" if you are ever unblocked. Dlohcierekim did. I'm not sure what he meant by that, whether he was referring to using your earliest account name or to choosing a completely new account name. There are problems with several of your current account names. Both "Conlon Nancarrow" and "Leila Rendel" are prominent real people. It is strongly recommended not to use the names of real people. Your earliest account, "Ripabollockov", is borderline offensive which is also discouraged. And for the record, I do not consider these shenanigans as resulting from "naivety" or "forgotten passwords". The three currently blocked accounts were editing in tandem and in my view were a deliberate attempt to make it look as if multiple different people were editing articles about King and his works instead of one single-purpose account and thus avoid scrutiny. Ditto the earlier activities of Ripabollockov and Less Brass editing in tandem, e.g. [6], [7]. Voceditenore (talk) 13:40, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Voceditenore: Generally, with socks, we consider the first account used the master and the rest puppets. Generally, we direct the user to discus unblocking via that account. However, given all the problems you point out with all these unacceptable usernames, I cannot see any of them unblocked. But to return to the original question, the user should usually discuss unblocking on their original account-- the first one used. This user can discuss the unacceptability of their usernames there or here. Along with all the other problems. It might be best afterall to continue discussion here since so much has been discussed here already.

Oh, and I see we have skirted this question--"what other usernames have you edited under and with what users have you coordinated edits off wiki?-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dlohcierekim, while "Conlon Nancarrow" has admitted above that he also operated Ripabollockov and Less Brass, it's possible that by now he has forgotten the password to the oldest account, Ripabollockov. "Ripabollockov's" last edit was on 3 June 2011 [8]. "Conlon Nancarrow" created his account three weeks later on 26 June 2011 [9] but did not begin editing until September of that year. It's probably best to keep the discussion here. Voceditenore (talk) 16:40, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]