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I have officially created the page User:TomStar81/Operation Majestic Titan, which outlines the basic goal I have of getting all the US battleship articles up to FA. Its still a draft (a few things will be added along the way), but I have a question for you. Out of curiosity, would be interested in becoming an 'adviser' such as it were for the op? You, MBK, and The ed17 have been a part of this longer than anyone else I can think of, and I could use a few extra people to keep tabs on and aid any newcomers to the op as we go along. If you decide you would like to assist in that capacity I would be happy to name you one of the people to whom others may addressed questions or ask for help from. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I expect that more will be needed along the way, but at present the (hopefully) four of us should be enough to handle any questions or comments that crop up. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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Are you still up for this? It would be great if you could but it's no problem if you're short of time and want to carry it over to the next issue. Roger Daviestalk03:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
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Some did well this week, but a lot of you didn't move much. Some are still hanging under the 200 mark. Our current top 8 are all over 200, so if you are below that line, get moving! There is a poll up at the talk page about the rest of this year's competition. If all of you could give your opinion there, it would be very much appreciated.
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Congrats for being the first person to receive an award in the contest. I'd have waited until the newsletter came out to award you this, but since I am beginning to wonder when exactly that will happen I figure there is no harm in dishing out the first gong early :) Thanks for the help, and do contribute more if you have the chance to. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
There were a few mistakes in last weeks' newsletter. Apologies about that. In regards to the competition, a few of you shot up in points this week. Very, very impressive. However, now that some have shot up to the top, others of you have to work even harder to catch up! There are about 3 weeks left in the round, so if you're behind, now is really the time to start nominating content, so that it can count for this round. If you wait too long, we won't be able to hold off the round while your content is being reviewed.
Per this tiny poll, the remainder of the competition has been altered.. sorry!! The changes being made are as follows: "We will be combining the last three rounds. Round 4 will now last from August through September, with 8 contestants. On September 1st, however, we will eliminate the bottom four contestants. The top four contestants will continue the round with the same score. Then, one person will win out of the remaining four on September 30th." You can also see this change to the main WikiCup page.
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The big news this month is the launch of the Academy content drive (see below if you want to help). But otherwise it has been a very busy month for both reviewing and contest department entries, surprisingly so considering the wind down of the academic year.
Introduced in February, The Academy is an online school for new members. This month, we're launching a drive to increase the breadth and depth of its content. If you can help, by writing four to six paragraph articles, please do so! Barnstars galore to be won!
Perhaps the most important—and, indeed, most respected—aspect of the Military History project is our rigorous A-Class Review (ACR) system, which puts articles through the most robust review outside of WP:FAC. Although reviewing might seem daunting to newcomers, this article will give you an outline of three popular reviewing methods so you can actually start contributing yourself.
General nit-pick - this is one of the easiest - and one of the most common - reviewing styles seen throughout Wikipedia. It is a similar approach to that you would see in proofreading and classroom marking. Basically, it is a general overview of the article, not getting too specific on aspects of the prose. The most common statements include This article could benefit from a light copyedit before going to FAC or You might want to check the endash and emdash placement in the article. It's a style that is incredibly easy to manage, and one that requires little-to-no experience in previous reviewing.
Specialization - it often is the case that those who have been reviewing articles for a long time will move away from the general review towards more specific areas of articles. As an example, Tony usually stays within the realm of prose and copyediting while reviewing Featured Article Candidates, Tom used to focus almost entirely on external links and disambiguations, while others specialize their focus exclusively on copyediting, reference formatting, dashes, punctuation and flow, image licensing, and a host of other areas. This is a review method that is not nearly as time-consuming as other methods, as it allows you to quickly scan an article, spot the things that you work on, and how they need to be fixed.
Sectional - My preferred style of reviewing, this is one of the most informative styles. Unfortunately, it is also one of the most time-consuming and exhaustive styles. Essentially, it involves going through the entire article, section by section, and pointing out every major (and often many of the minor) flaws present within each section. Everything from prose to reference formatting to content. It is a reviewing style that is exhausting, and often takes two or three goes through the article to get everything (sometimes even more), but it gives the article's main contributors two benefits. First, everything is well organized, mostly under section headers like this one, and it often makes finding individual sentences or refs much easier, as they are within that section. Secondly, it points out a lot of the problems from a lot of the areas.
Hello all, iMatthew here. I just wanted to let you know about "The Great Wikipedia Dramaout" which starts this Saturday. The goal of the Dramaout is to spend five days working on improving articles and abstaining from any of Wikipedia's drama. I don't think that any of you will have a problem focusing on articles for five days, because of course, any work you get done during the Dramaout will count towards your score in the WikiCup. Details are on the page; hope to see you all signing up! :) iMatthewtalk at 00:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
About two weeks left, now. To those of you in the back, don't give up. There is still enough time to get some more work done. To those of you in the front relaxing... don't. We've seen it happen before, where users in the back will jump ahead in the final weeks and make it though.
We'd also like to wave goodbye to Scorpion0422, and thank him for all of his hard work this round even though he knew he needed to withdraw at the end of it.
'weburiedoursecretsinthegarden, iMatthewtalk, and TheHelpfulOne
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Hello. Could you show me how you created the user box links that are at the top of your page? The links with the pictures and "About Me, etc...etc..." Wikifan12345 (talk) 04:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
When I click on the pictures, it doesn't take me to my user page or talk page. Only when I click on the text. How can I fix this? Wikifan12345 (talk) 01:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The round is over in about four days from now. Sit back, watch your nominations being reviewed, and hope for the best. In these four days, you don't have much control over your score. It's what you did prior to now, that's going to pile up your points (or not). We're very, very pleased with this round's results so far, and of course hoping to see some more submitted before the round ends.
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Right, last newsletter before the next round and it's a congratulations to eight of you lot. Unfortunately we say goodbye to a fair few users along the way but that is the competition. Next round, there will only be one pool which will see the lowest scoring users eliminated halfway into the round. Should be good fun! Get your nominations in soon!
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Don't forget that the next Military history coordinator elections take place in September. You might like to start thinking about whether you are interested in standing. More information to follow in the next edition of The Bugle. In the meantime, enjoy the remainder of the holiday season and come back refreshed and raring to go! Roger Daviestalk02:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
We current have an astonishing fifty articles within our scope up for promotion to Good Article and it's a bit backlogged. Can you help with reviewing to speed up the process?
The Military history Academy content drive is underway with nearly twenty new essays so far. More contributions are welcome. Just click on the one of the redlinks here and start writing!
Are you missing out on an A-Class medal? These are for editors who have significantly contributed to three or more military history A-Class articles promoted since 1 August 2008. Alternatively, perhaps you can help with reviewing? For more information, see here.
More eyes would be welcome on the ten articles currently being peer reviewed. It doesn't take long to peer review an article and your perspective is appreciated!
Contest department
The Contest department has completed its twenty-eighth month of competition, with 77 articles entered by 9 editors. Sturmvogel 66 was placed first again this month with an amazing 94 points, closely followed by Ed! at 91 points. They receive the Chevrons and the Writer's Barnstar respectively. Parsecboy commendably came third with 76 points, with honorable mentions going to Woody (29), Wild Wolf (25), Ian Rose (21), and AustralianRupert (16). Thanks go to Starstriker7 and Piotrus, who also fielded entries.
Awards and honours
Congratulations go to Parsecboy, who has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves for bringing almost all of the WWI-era German battleships up to GA, A, or FA class. His single-minded determination in this field has helped immeasurably with the project's WWI Centennial Drive.
In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom four contestants of the top eight will be eliminated on September 30th, while the top four will continue with the same score for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.
Top 4
Durova (370)
Ottava Rima (281)
Theleftorium (281)
Sasata (200)
Bottom 4
Candlewicke (88)
Shoemaker's Holiday (81)
Mitchazenia (73)
Juliancolton (21)
All scores are accurate as of 15:22, 16 August 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
The difference between each contestant's point total from last week, and their point total from this week are:
Rank
User
LF
TF
D
1
Durova
0
370
370
2
Ottava Rima
0
281
281
3
Theleftorium
0
281
281
4
Sasata
0
200
200
LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
From the Judges
Apologies for not getting a newsletter out before this, but all of the judges happened to be away at the same time. Very impressive start of the round. Only sixteen days in, and our top four are already completely above 200 points. By the way, this is light red, not pink! :P
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As a member of the Aviation WikiProject or one of its subprojects, you may be interested in testing your skills in the Aviation Contest! I created this contest, not to pit editor against editor, but to promote article improvement and project participation and camraderie. Hopefully you will agree with its usefulness. Sign up here, read up on the rules here, and discuss the contest here. The first round of the contest may not start until September 1st-unless a large number of editors signup and are ready to compete immediately! Since this contest is just beginning, please give feedback here, or let me know what you think on my talkpage. - TrevorMacInniscontribs23:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347
Hello! Some time ago you had expressed an interest in copyediting the article. It is now undergoing a FAC, and the prose is the main issue. If you have time for it, I'd be grateful for any help. Best regards, Constantine ✍ 10:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom four contestants of the top eight will be eliminated on September 30th, while the top four will continue with the same score for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.
Top 4
Durova (875)
Ottava Rima (650)
Theleftorium (618)
Shoemaker's Holiday (441)
Bottom 4
Sasata (426)
Candlewicke (277)
Mitchazenia (257)
Juliancolton (253)
All scores are accurate as of 18:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
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The voting phase of the eighth coordinator elections, for the October–March term, started on 13 September and will run until 23:59 Sat 26 September.
Each candidate garnering twenty or more endorsements will be appointed, to a maximum of fifteen. This election has a strong field of sixteen candidates running, offering many skills and representing all aspects of the project.
The Contest Department is going from strength to strength and drew a massive number of entries in August (see the results below). If you haven't fielded any entries yet, please think about doing so. It's great fun! Roger Daviestalk14:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
People with an interest in clearly presenting battle information, and First World War buffs, will find the discussion about a new campaign box for the Battle of the Somme interesting.
With the recent increase in enthusiasm, Wikipedia-wide, for creating "outline" articles, there's an ongoing discussion here. The idea is to produce guidelines for overview articles for Milhist editors and reviewers.
Proposals have been made to introduce a new self-scoring "honour" system for Contest Department entries. Contributions, especially from regular nominees, are welcome.
Editorial: Getting to FAC via A-Class - some interesting new facts
Well, it’s official. Milhist articles have a much better than average chance of success as featured article candidates. MBK004 has done some useful number-crunching following the fortunes of the 97 Milhist featured article candidates submitted between January and July this year. The research shows that 70% of Milhist articles were promoted against an overall average of 51%.
Looking behind the figures, some other interesting facts emerge. First, 84% of our promoted articles had successfully passed a Milhist A-Class Review before going on to FAC. Second, of the 29 Milhist articles that failed, less than half (41%) had had an A-Class Review. Third, the 97 Milhist articles accounted for 16% of all FACs submitted between January and July of this year.
The clear lesson is that if you want a string of featured articles to your credit, you may find Milhist's A-class Review process to be of benefit to you! Roger Daviestalk
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Hey there Cam, been a while ;) I'm currently copyediting Hill 262, and there's a discrepancy between this and Villers-Bocage in the details of when the Poles got into Chambois/onto the hill. If you have the time, anything you can uncover from your sources would be much appreciated. More information on the talkpage at the top of the Notes section. Regards, EyeSerenetalk11:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Cam. Some sources I've seen seem to support Chambois first then Hill 262, but of those some are ambiguous (they can be read as both happening at the same time). Totally unrelated, but do you think it's worth adding your Normandy project to milhists special projects as discussed on the coords page? EyeSerenetalk17:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks and a request!
Thanks for your service as coordinator on WPr Military History for the last six months. Great job, the Wikiproject has matured some more. Lots more needs to be done though.
Would you consider giving a para here on what you planned to do, what you could achieve, what gave you happiness, what irritated you and your suggestions for the road ahead to the new team?
Coordinator of the Military history WikiProject, October 2009 - March 2010
Congrats on your election as Coordinator for the Military history Project. In honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom four contestants of the top eight will be eliminated on September 30th, while the top four will continue with the same score for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.
Top 4
Theleftorium (938)
Durova (914)
Ottava Rima (910)
Sasata (849)
Bottom 4
Shoemaker's Holiday (679)
Candlewicke (370)
Mitchazenia (347)
Juliancolton (306)
All scores are accurate as of 20:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
I can't image any way that something you nominate even as early as today will pass before Wednesday. If anything you've already nominated passes between now and Wednesday, or you still have things you haven't added to your submission pages, now is the time to do it! This half of the round ends this Wednesday (September 30) at 23:59 (UTC), and the bottom four contestants will be eliminated. The top four will keep their score from the first half, and continue competing through October 31. Good luck everyone!
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLIII (September 2009)
Greetings to all members of the Military history WikiProject, and to those outside the project who receive this news letter as well! My name is TomStar81, and it with a great sense of pride that I assume the position of lead coordinator for the project. On behalf of all the coordinators, both new and returning, we wish to thank those of you who participated in the September elections, and we look forward to working to advance the goals of the project for the next six months.
With the elections concluded, there are two changes. First, Roger Davies has been appointed a coordinator emeritus, joining our first coordinator emeritus Kirill Lokshin. Secondly, for the first time ever, the lead coordinator for the Military history WikiProject will be taking a lengthy wikibreak. For those who were unaware of this, I am an undergraduate student, and will be taking a leave of absence, effective end September, to focus on graduating in December. However, with fourteen coordinators, and two coordinators emeritus, I am confident the needs of the project will be well taken care of. For the VIII coordinator tranche, TomStar81 (Talk)
This month witnessed an all new and improved scoring system and process established in the Contest Department, which has run both smoothly and successfully. A total of 54 articles were entered this month by 11 editors. Parsecboy placed first with an astonishing 143 points, followed by Sturmvogel 66 on 105 points. They receive the Chevrons and the Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to the_ed17 (41), Auntieruth55 (38), AustralianRupert (17), Radeksz (12) and Ian Rose (11), with our thanks going to Piotrus, Abraham, B.S., Skinny87 and David Underdown, who also fielded entries. All interested editors are encouraged to submit entries for next month's contest; it can be a rather exciting experience!
Awards and honours
The WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves has been awarded to Roger Davies for his outstanding leadership of the Military history WikiProject, including his introduction of the logistics department, his dedication to the Tag and Assess 2008 & B-class Assessment Drive efforts, and his astute advice and never-ending support and encouragement as both a coordinator and lead coordinator.
In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom three contestants of the top eight were eliminated on September 30th, while the top five are continuing for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.
Top 5
Sasata (1153)
Ottava Rima (1148)
Theleftorium (1025)
Durova (1010)
Eliminated 3
Candlewicke (534)
Mitchazenia (352)
Juliancolton (314)
Withdrawn
Shoemaker's Holiday (1183)
All scores are accurate as of 18:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
Hi everyone! We're very sorry we didn't get this one out anytime sooner. We've all been pretty busy IRL. But down to business: Since the last newsletter, the first half of the round has ended. We said goodbye to Candlewicke, Juliancolton, and Mitchazenia. We'd like to thank them for all of their hard work getting this far. Shoemaker's Holiday has also withdrawn, so we'd like to thank him for his hard work too. Congratulations to Durova, Ottava Rima, Sasata, and Theleftorium for making the top 4! Good luck to you all.
You also may have seen from the WikiCup talk page that we have a new judge! J Milburn is joining our judging team effective immediately. J was assigned after Garden and Thehelpfulone announced they would be highly inactive throughout the remainder of the WikiCup. It is likely you will see J return as a judge next year as well.
Good luck again to the remaining four contestants! 20 days left in the Round, so make sure you get all your content nominated soon! You've all worked hard for this, since the beginning of January. I'm sure you're all tired by now, but you've come too far to just give up now. Congratulations Top 4!
GARDEN, iMatthewtalk, J Milburn, and TheHelpfulOne
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Talk page protection
I just noticed that you have indefinitely semi-protected your user talk page. I have nothing against this, but you should be aware that there is consensus that was formed at ANI or AN (I'd have to look it up) that if you choose to keep this you will need to have an unprotected talk page available for IPs and newly-registered non-autoconfirmed users to be able to contact you, much like I do with User talk:MBK004/Anon and have it linked to on your main talk page. -MBK00401:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Protected for one week. I'm inclined to re-block the user for block evasion on the other IP, but hopefully the protection will elicit some constructive dialog. -MBK00422:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
You may be interested in his rantings post-block while waiting for his unblock request to be actioned: [1] he is going on about how we are a cabal and I have a clear bias, am a bastard and will become the subject of an improper Admin conduct RFC if he isn't unblocked and the protection removed. Roger might get a kick out of that. -MBK00400:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Not particularly. Feel free to join in, particularly in the area of design and armour in the main class page. I would request that we keep all developments on my sandbox page first (and I would like any potential DYKs if you don't mind me requesting;) before we transfer them to the main page. Cam(Chat)05:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, of course, and did you know that DYK credit can be handed out to more than one editor? ;-) Parsec and I have done it more than once. I don't have much on the design, but I am trying to get my hands on Whitley's Battleships of World War II; if I can do that, we should be set. —Ed(talk • contribs)05:50, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick request, before going down the formal lines, to keep a watch out on the Operation Goodwood article. The guy, who am fairly certain is the one i mentioned to you by the same use of terminology, is claiming he is going to start stamping BS figures into the article - although i am going to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment and see if he actually has sources.--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom three contestants of the top eight were eliminated on September 30th, while the top five are continued for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.
Top 4
Sasata (1332)
Durova (1259)
Ottava Rima (1242)
Theleftorium (1041)
Eliminated 3
Candlewicke (534)
Mitchazenia (352)
Juliancolton (314)
Withdrawn
Shoemaker's Holiday (1183)
All scores are accurate as of 20:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
We have announced the intention to hire another new judge to cover for future judge absences. If you are interested please see the talk page for the WikiCup.
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In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom three contestants of the top eight were eliminated on September 30th, while the top five are continued for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.
Top 4
Durova (1546)
Sasata (1477)
Ottava Rima (1254)
Theleftorium (1092)
Eliminated 3
Candlewicke (534)
Mitchazenia (352)
Juliancolton (314)
Withdrawn
Shoemaker's Holiday (1183)
All scores are accurate as of 18:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
It just came to me that multiple users have worked together on a bunch of content items, which means the newsletter counts are likely off. I'll try to put that all together and figure it out by the end of the round.
The end of the round, and the end of the 2009 WikiCup is this coming Saturday, October 31! To our top four: don't give up yet. Make sure that anything you have left to nominate is nominated today or tomorrow, for the slighted chance of it passing in time. The last day items will be accepted is Saturday, at 23:59 (UTC). It ain't over till the fat lady sings, of course!
GARDEN, iMatthewtalk, J Milburn, and TheHelpfulOne
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In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom three contestants of the top eight were eliminated on September 30th, while the top five continued for an additional month. On October 31, the WikiCup ended, and Durova was crowned winner!
Top 4
Durova (1830)
Ottava Rima (1720)
Sasata (1627)
Theleftorium (1149)
Eliminated 3
Candlewicke (586)
Mitchazenia (376)
Juliancolton (349)
Withdrawn
Shoemaker's Holiday (1224)
All scores are accurate as of the end of the WikiCup.
Content Leaders
As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:
Well, it was a long, long ride, with plenty of ups as well as downs (but I'm sure you'll agree, definitely more ups). It's been ten long months since our kick-off in January, and the level of competition has intensified so much so quickly. It's a wonder there was any puff left in our final eight by the end, but they fought to the death and, eventually, Durova pulled through, making her proficiency with FPs count as the contest drew to a close. Special mentions must go to the other members of the last four, Ottava Rima, Sasata and Theleftorium, all of whom put in a astonishing shift in their efforts to peel Durova away from her victory. Congratulations again!
The announcement of the ed17 as the newest judge to the WikiCup panel was made today - I wish him all the best in his new role.
The article for the Signpost overall is now be readable in a Signpost near you!
Remember to sign up for next year if you haven't already!
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